A Spirited 15 Rounds ...

bclane

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Prominence in the animated stuff aside, you could easily sell a Mandalore movie based on the Boba Fett armor connection, even though the Fetts aren't actually Mandalorian anymore.

Shoot, with as much House/Clan intrigue going on within that corner of the galaxy in recent stuff, you could probably sell a Mandalore movie as being "Game of Thrones in Space"
Yup. While there will always be a place in my heart for the traditional Star Wars (Jedi using the Force, the Rebels vs. the Empire/First Order) type of movie, there are SO many stories that could be told in that universe that it boggles the mind. I'd love to see them do smaller stories, and explore multiple genres within the galaxy. Not every Star Wars movie needs to have the entire galaxy hanging in the balance...imo
 

smile

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Yup. While there will always be a place in my heart for the traditional Star Wars (Jedi using the Force, the Rebels vs. the Empire/First Order) type of movie, there are SO many stories that could be told in that universe that it boggles the mind. I'd love to see them do smaller stories, and explore multiple genres within the galaxy. Not every Star Wars movie needs to have the entire galaxy hanging in the balance...imo

i've been thinking lately, regarding your point, that i would have just preferred them to leave the OT alone and hopped elsewhere... gl is gone, let's go somewhere else; forwards or back...
could have started fresh, like they want - could have really gone in whatever directions they chose - wouldn't have needed to drag the past down at all by beginning a new future.

i'm sure i would have a much easier time swallowing some of this stuff if it was an entirely new (or not; old republic) era with a clean slate, probing any number of the thousands of stories in the universe

story-wise, it's obvious that they're aiming towards a (now diz) new future; at times, at the expense of the past (all the while profiting off vader and friends, of course) - if you're doing that anyways, should have detached.
 

bclane

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i've been thinking lately, regarding your point, that i would have just preferred them to leave the OT alone and hopped elsewhere... gl is gone, let's go somewhere else; forwards or back...
could have started fresh, like they want - could have really gone in whatever directions they chose - wouldn't have needed to drag the past down at all by beginning a new future.

i'm sure i would have a much easier time swallowing some of this stuff if it was an entirely new (or not; old republic) era with a clean slate, probing any number of the thousands of stories in the universe

story-wise, it's obvious that they're aiming towards a (now diz) new future; at times, at the expense of the past (all the while profiting off vader and friends, of course) - if you're doing that anyways, should have detached.
Yes please to Old Republic stories! Anyway, based on what you've said, I think you might be happier with the trilogy that comes next.
 

Cesar R M

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Prominence in the animated stuff aside, you could easily sell a Mandalore movie based on the Boba Fett armor connection, even though the Fetts aren't actually Mandalorian anymore.

Shoot, with as much House/Clan intrigue going on within that corner of the galaxy in recent stuff, you could probably sell a Mandalore movie as being "Game of Thrones in Space"
I honestly would love to see movie based on the Jedi council before they all were killed.

Not every Star Wars movie needs to have the entire galaxy hanging in the balance...imo
The problem is these kind of histories wont be blockbusters, would do very well as TVseries. Not full blown trilogies.
 

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
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I disagree. It's an incredibly big galaxy with limitless possibilities. For example, I think you could do a whole trilogy about Mandalore and it's place in the galaxy/war and we barely know anything about the Mandalorians from the movies alone. imo, there are endless possibilities.

A lot of Mandalore lore has become canon already from Clone Wars and Rebels. It'd be hard to craft a story from this same time period that isn't already spoiled.

But I do agree with you that the number of stories branching off from what is canon is endless.

One rich source is following a group of bounty hunters. They'd be involved in dealing with Jedi, Sith, politics, smugglers, etc... Have them save a kitten now and then.
 

bclane

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A lot of Mandalore lore has become canon already from Clone Wars and Rebels. It'd be hard to craft a story from this same time period that isn't already spoiled.

But I do agree with you that the number of stories branching off from what is canon is endless.

One rich source is following a group of bounty hunters. They'd be involved in dealing with Jedi, Sith, politics, smugglers, etc... Have them save a kitten now and then.
I agree. But you know, Dunkirk was one of my favorite movies last year even though i already knew how it was gonna turn out. The toons certainly have given us a lot relating to certain time periods and I would say a more interesting time period to explore with them is the distant past. But since it doesn’t look like they are going back in time for the upcoming trilogy type movies i’m thinking it would be awesome to see what’s going on with the Mandalorians in the sequel time period...and not even with the bounty hunter aspect in mind. And of couse the Mandalorians of the distant past could be still be explored at some point in movies set back then or even with flashbacks in a new trilogy that is set in the sequel era (since Mickey wants to make me happy). Anyway, I’m kind of dying to know where they all are and what they’re up to now (well you know what I mean by now since this all happened a long time ago). I mean we only really see Jango and Boba in the movies and Jango is said to not even be Mandalorian (though maybe he really was just from a less important clan so you know...the whole from a certain point of view and all). I bet they can come up with some interesting post prequel and and post OT time period stuff on them. But if not, i’m sure will get more EU stuff on them so all is good.
 

Cesar R M

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A lot of Mandalore lore has become canon already from Clone Wars and Rebels. It'd be hard to craft a story from this same time period that isn't already spoiled.

But I do agree with you that the number of stories branching off from what is canon is endless.

One rich source is following a group of bounty hunters. They'd be involved in dealing with Jedi, Sith, politics, smugglers, etc... Have them save a kitten now and then.
Would be a bit hard to make them fit and give us the "AHA!! THAT MAKES SENSE!" when lining the potential interactions, meeting the original cast, new cast,etc..

But would feel awesome seeing certain aspects under another completely different point of view.
 

bclane

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Would be a bit hard to make them fit and give us the "AHA!! THAT MAKES SENSE!" when lining the potential interactions, meeting the original cast, new cast,etc..

But would feel awesome seeing certain aspects under another completely different point of view.
I love the "completely different point of view" aspect. For example, we generally teach history from the viewpoint of the conquerors. I love when we get the other perspective as well. How many times do we hear about the explorers bravely leaving their homes and sailing across treacherous waters to discover the paradise and riches of America. Usually an interesting story, but what is even more interesting to me is when we see this whole thing unfold from the eyes of the Native Americans who were already here. They could do a lot with perspective shift changes in Star Wars I think.

On another note, is it just me or does a nature documentary shot from the perspective of the exogorths and colossus wasps sound interesting to anyone else? lol!
 

The Empress Lilly

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I put this in the TLJ thread in the other forum, but I actually think that TLJ in China is in part due to the overall market volitility in China, and how it is starting to evolve - and not in the way Western media companies thought.

To be honest, that is why I think it's more than just a Star Wars problem. Reading the pundits (even at "reputable" business sites) kind of poo-pooing the significance of TLJ's performance with the "well, SW was never big in China" thing is really...odd to me. Yes, traditionally it wasn't as popular, but then you have TFA to use as a barometer. And from the accounts I have seen thus far, they pushed TLJ just as hard if not harder than they did TFA in China. So the excuse doesn't make much sense, since the drop off from TFA to TLJ is so severe, and doesn't have any of the excuses it might elsewhere (nostalgia boost for the last film, etc).

While some would say "oh, they are just kissing Disney's behind..." by trying to diminish the significance of the Chinese performance, I don't think it's really that - it's much deeper (and more self-serving). These same pundits have been the ones for several years now proclaiming that China is the future of Hollywood - that somehow they were the solution to the mess Hollywood is in (more movies lose money or break even than make money, it's just that the biggest movies make a lot of money to "make up" for it, which is why things are they way they are).

Basically, Western media assumed that China was just sitting there ready to scoff up our product, much like the rest of the world has. I think we are going to find out that was mistaken, for two reasons. One, culturally, of course - while in the Western world we think everyone in a country that has been ruled like China is just itching for the values of capitalism, democracy, etc. - that's just not always the case.

Two, they severely underestimated China's own ability to produce films. Lots of countries make their own films, but let's face it - American/Western cinema rules in almost all cases. In fact, many countries have to have specific rules and limitations on our films playing there versus domestic films because people in so many places are so hungry for our content that they artificially keep the local films afloat as best they can. In China, they have the money and infrastructure to actually compete, and obviously can cater the films directly to their intended audience.

Wanna know something funny? The film that is totally trouncing TLJ right now, the romantic comedy "The Ex-Files 3", is subtitled, "Return of the Exes". And the last one was, "The Ex-Files 2: The Backup Strikes Back". I mean...come on - if scheduling the third film to be released the week before TLJ wasn't an intentional middle finger to Hollywood, it is a striking coincidence.
Right? Why would anybody expect China - the oldest and largest language in the world, to be desperate to lap up the cultural product - and Hollywood is to cinema what junk food is to cuisine - of a parvenu culture of a country a quarter the size of theirs? With people, music, themes that are not Chinese?
 

ChrisFL

Premium Member
However, I think corporate finds itself in a unique situation when it comes to PR here. It will be interesting to see how events like the next Star Wars Celebration play out, where in the audience of superfans, there could be some of rabid TLJ haters. During the Prequel era and up to the release of TFA, Lucasfilm always had the fans in their pocket. It was the general audience that needed convincing. Now it seems that the general audience was really pleased with TLJ, but going forward, it will be the fans that need careful communication.

Wait, you're saying the original fans loved the Prequels? I hate to break the news to you, but it was new fans, younger audiences who liked the prequels the most, not the original fans. They even made a movie about it: "The People vs George Lucas"
 

britain

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Wait, you're saying the original fans loved the Prequels? I hate to break the news to you, but it was new fans, younger audiences who liked the prequels the most, not the original fans. They even made a movie about it: "The People vs George Lucas"

I meant in the context of who's in the audience at Star Wars Celebration, or at ComicCon presentations. I agree, there was a division in fandom back during the Prequel era. But for the most part, Lucas could say and do anything as he was rolling out his prequel films, and the fans would cheer him on, giving him the benefit of the doubt that "however bad the last one was, the next one will be great!" Sentiments like those found in "The People vs George Lucas" came after the last prequel was finished.
 

BrianLo

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https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/h...bit-new-mutants-get-new-release-dates-1073560 Anyone else think that Solo will get moved? I’m more interested in seeing Deadpool 2 for what will probably be the second time than Solo in it’s opening weekend.

I think this has more to do with something being really off with New Mutants. The movie shifted from April 2018 to February 2019!

Deadpool the week before Solo is far better for it (Solo) than the week after.
 

Princess Leia

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I think this has more to do with something being really off with New Mutants. The movie shifted from April 2018 to February 2019!

Deadpool the week before Solo is far better for it (Solo) than the week after.
The fact that New Mutants had yet to release a single trailer kind of screamed ‘delayed production’... but that’s how I’m feeling about Solo too.
 

truecoat

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I think this has more to do with something being really off with New Mutants. The movie shifted from April 2018 to February 2019!

Deadpool the week before Solo is far better for it (Solo) than the week after.

Maybe it had to do with Disney wanting to go a different direction with the movie now? Or should I say Marvel Studios.
 

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