ford91exploder
Resident Curmudgeon
He's busy doing the things that pay the bills, He works in the media industry.
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A Spirited 15 Rounds ...
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He's busy doing the things that pay the bills, He works in the media industry.
ford91exploder
Resident Curmudgeon
Screenz that you wear on your face...
ford91exploder
Resident Curmudgeon
Spirit talked about starting a blog where he controls the content and may even make a few bucks sharing his views on the theme park industry. He also said he'd still be around. I think the reality is he's just bored with Disney because in reality Disney is doing very little new stuff,
1 - Build more hotel rooms
2 - Comment on latest round of cost cutting
3 - Comment on budget overruns at Disneys underwheming new projects
4 - Comment on latest reshuffling of management
5 - Would rather not comment on Disney's latest crappy tentpole
6 - Comment on latest resort Defurbishment
7 - Comment on Latest Price increase.
Spirit's is a very intelligent and curious guy and reality is Disney is becoming less interesting by the day, Used to be that Disney would amaze us with feats of Imagineering, Now Disney amazes Wall St with feats of Financial Engineering which does not interest Sprit very much
I'm looking forward to his blog which I hope will have interesting content beyond Disney.
Mike S
Well-Known Member
I notice you've never addressed my more recent points like how if the game becomes this years big best seller like the last one did and sells about 10 million copies (the original did 14 million) that's $600 million right there, not even including the $80 version of the game. If they still need the micro transactions and a gambling system as the sole source of progression to make a profit after that the problem is on their side and how they can't handle a budget. The problem is that almost absolutely everything has to be a huge blockbuster these days or it's considered a failure with a bunch of greed sprinkled in for good measure on games they know will sell gangbusters. It was insane when Square Enix came out and called 3.4 million sales for Tomb Raider "disappointing." What publishers need to do is take a long and hard look at the way they do business and realize they can't treat every game as if it's going to be a huge selling blockbuster and budget accordingly. Who am I kidding though, even if they reigned in the budgets publishers would still use tactics like this to make even more money.
The core idea of DLC is not inherently bad. Buy the full game now and if you really enjoyed it you can get some expansions for it that we're working on later for a little extra money that come out much sooner than waiting for a sequel. The problem arises when we come to things like day 1 or pre-order exclusive DLC and even retailer exclusive which was obviously taken from the main experience to make more money or incentivize pre ordering. Remember when Capcom was caught with their pants down selling "DLC" that was found to actually be on the disk and all you were doing was paying to unlock it? Because I do.
Getting back to the topic of Star Wars Battlefront the reason the season pass was so criticized was because the content included in the base game felt very small and didn't even match up to the original Battlefront 2 on PlayStation 2. Oh, also because the pass cost $50 which is insane but they knew they could get away with it because it's Star Wars. Honestly they should've just gone the DLC route with the new Battlefront 2 but still amp up what would be included in the base $60 game which I think is already more than the first one had. They were already planning an $80 version so why did they have to include micro transactions and loot boxes? They missed the point of the criticisms completely. It's not that people wanted all DLC to be free. It's that people were criticizing what they were getting for the original $60 purchase and how it felt like things were purposefully held off on for the expensive season pass.
The original point I was making when all of this started was simply against loot boxes and micro transactions since it's pretty much gambling and I think you agreed with that. There are a lot of better ways to make more profits off of a game that don't make people feel like they're getting scammed or that the system in place is pay to win. For an example, look at CD Projekt and The Witcher 3.
Let's see if you answer this time.
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bclane
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Yes, other than Harvey the Horrible, I think there is a lot of blame to go around. It seems a lot of people, who weren't his victims, knew what was going on and it's tragic that this wasn't stopped sooner. Being the father of someone who was sexually assaulted, I simply will never place blame on a victim for how they respond or act afterwards (at least for things related to the issue at hand...I'm not saying that I would excuse them for going out and committing crimes of their own, which unfortunately often happens).
The_Jobu
Well-Known Member
The sad truth is that many DLC releases are not expansion packs like in days of old, but just paying to unlock stuff already on the disc. Mass Effect 3 did that with a very important character/side-story.ME3 was also an EA release (*shock* no! what a surprise!)
The terrible state of games journalism used to upset me, but having read the journalism debates in this thread, I'm starting to realize shifty game journos aren't that bad in the grand scheme of things.
JenniferS
When you're the leader, you don't have to follow.
Surely you jest.
Have the same people that were presenting ample displays of outrage and condemnation at the POTUS and anyone who knows how to spell his name provided any admonition of HW?
The_Jobu
Well-Known Member
These are the same people that sign petitions to get people like Polanski out of punishment.
AEfx
Well-Known Member
Not that I think that would have happened, but if I were as wealthy and privileged as they were (let's not forget - the both of them were born into it, particularly Paltrow)? I'm probably stupid for saying so, but yeah - if I knew someone was hurting people like that who didn't have the advantages to fall back on that I did, I likely would have. I have walked out of a career before over principle - and suffered for it, too - but I know that I did the right thing. And I certainly didn't have millions of dollars to fall back upon.
But in any case, I damn well wouldn't have stood on stage thanking, nor been giving interviews for years after, praising "Uncle Harvey" if I knew what a monster he was.
AEfx
Well-Known Member
Look at the timeline.
1991 - Paltrow enters the business and gets jobs immediately
1995 - Paltrow is a movie star
1996 - Incident happens with Weinstein
1998 - Paltrow wins an Oscar in a Weinstein-master-minded campaign, cementing her status, effusively praising "Uncle Harvey" for years
So what about the last two decades since then?
njDizFan
Well-Known Member
I know you stated you would not blame the victims but...you sort of are blaming them. Assault of this nature would have psychological aspects that cannot be quantified. There are also social ramifications. Being in the spotlight knowing whenever anybody thought of you they thought about your abuse and abuser. You would be labeled in certain societies and in the industry. My point being is that you cannot know her mindset. The most common reason people do not come out against their abuser is the shame, and humiliation of admitting it happened and fear that people would think it was the victim's own actions that created the abusive scenario. Now that the people are coming out in consensus it makes it easier than standing alone, even for someone who has stardom.
ford91exploder
Resident Curmudgeon
Cue Crickets in 3...2...1... Chirp, Chirp, Chirp nope nothing condemning HW,
AEfx
Well-Known Member
"Blaming the victim" means blaming the person who was the victim of a crime for the crime happening. Stuff like "well, you wore a tight dress and danced sexy with him so you deserved it". I absolutely, 100% do not blame the victim for what happened to them.
What I do find fault with is that after, for decades, she played along and continued to praise the man, her "Uncle Harvey", from this woman who shares every detail of her life with the press and public ("this is how poop is supposed to be shaped!"), who had a platform that almost no woman (or man) could ever imagine having, a powerful family behind her, was wealthy enough before she was born to never have to work a day in her life if she hadn't wanted to, who helped enable him to hurt so many other people.
I understand what folks are saying. I truly do. But there are exceptions to every rule - and she is one of them. I mean, I don't know how many are old enough to remember, or paid attention enough, but there were many years where there wasn't a single month she wasn't on some magazine cover, or on some TV show telling everyone else how to live their lives just like her and all this woman power stuff that was nonsense, we now know. I actually have been on her side for a long time - but this just proves what the critics have been saying for so long is true - she is so self-absorbed, that even with her unique platform, she not only didn't do the right thing in exposing what he was doing - she built him up more.
Hey, @wdwmagic and/or @The Mom, can we close this thread? I no longer have time or desire to participate on a regular basis and it is going off in many crazy directions that don't at all reflect on anything remotely about themed entertainment at this point.
Besides, if people want to talk about Harvey Weinstein being the pig that he is (and was widely known to be), then it really is only fitting to discuss the p-grabber in chief and you don't really want that, do you?
To my friends here, I will still be a member and drop in when and where I can. But no more long threads full of news and info (that winds up buried in ... garbage). Just like EPCOT Center and our democracy, they are dead, and I am not into corpses.
Besides, if people want to talk about Harvey Weinstein being the pig that he is (and was widely known to be), then it really is only fitting to discuss the p-grabber in chief and you don't really want that, do you?
To my friends here, I will still be a member and drop in when and where I can. But no more long threads full of news and info (that winds up buried in ... garbage). Just like EPCOT Center and our democracy, they are dead, and I am not into corpses.
Sam Magic
Well-Known Member
Well, this is tragic. Not the most tragic thing to happen this week...but up there. Nothing lasts forever I suppose.
You'll miss Spirit calling your posts that bury his posts 'garbage'?
Some members are still taking part in this thread, so I don’t wish to cut them off by closing it.