A Spirited 15 Rounds ...

[GoofGoof]

Avatar == (Ferngully + Blue Cat People), I expect even if it got built by someone else it would have received the same reception. Avatar was an AMAZING technical achievement, As a story it was meh' at best.

I'm one of the guys who will not pay to see Disney or Marvel content, After my last point renter completes their stay my DVC is for sale, Unfortunately my cable carrier provides no means of purchasing a 'Disney Free' package.

Basically if we want Disney to change their behavior we need to stop buying their products and services, unfortunately that means closing one's wallet entirely to Disney. Yes there are Disney things I want to buy but they will have to stay on the shelf until things change at Disney.

I don’t really think they need to change all of their behavior. I really liked Force Awakens and Rogue One and the Marvel movies are usually pretty good too. No reason to skip them just because they are made by a division of TWDC. I have been critical of some of the decisions around P&R especially the lack of investment at WDW over the last decade or so. I suppose if everyone stopped going maybe they would spend more but I enjoy my time there and I’m not getting any younger. If I start to feel like it’s not worth my time and money I’ll stop going right away, but that has nothing to do with any feelings one way or the other for the overall brand.

 

[RSoxNo1]

Fallon is a good ride, I didn't like the line experience, it should be explained better, you get your time to come back And you still wait forever, I want to know an estimated amount of Time I'm going to be waiting for the ride virtual line or not. Otherwise good ride

Likes the ride, hates the line. Pretty much the opposite of everyone else that's experienced the ride.

 

[Dizmentia]

hmm....what name could SeaWorld be renamed to that would sound good?

Busch Bay. Busch Oasis. Seems more fitting with the direction they are taking. I have a feeling the new Sesame Street addition will be "Sesame Place." The Sesame Place park in PA is actually very successful for SeaWorld---low cost to run, small, and popular (and at least one more Sesame Place park is planned, with an option for more).

 

[bclane]

Likes the ride, hates the line. Pretty much the opposite of everyone else that's experienced the ride.

Yeah, I love the pre-ride experience way more than the ride itself (which is fun but not great) and I actually feel a little disappointed when my color gets called soon after arrival.

 

[lazyboy97o]

Busch Bay. Busch Oasis. Seems more fitting with the direction they are taking. I have a feeling the new Sesame Street addition will be "Sesame Place." The Sesame Place park in PA is actually very successful for SeaWorld---low cost to run, small, and popular (and at least one more Sesame Place park is planned, with an option for more).

Are you thinking the Orlando project is the new park?

 

[Dizmentia]

Are you thinking the Orlando project is the new park?

No---it was mentioned that SeaWorld Orlando's Sesame Street area would be different from the other SeaWorld Sesame Street "Bay of Play" sections. Florida is said to get the "Street" and parades, which is what Sesame Place in PA has. My guess is Florida gets a smaller version of Place, that can be expanded. Another brand new Sesame Place park is going somewhere else in the United States. SeaWorld has mentioned that Sesame Place parks could outnumber their other parks someday.

 

[ford91exploder]

I don’t really think they need to change all of their behavior. I really liked Force Awakens and Rogue One and the Marvel movies are usually pretty good too. No reason to skip them just because they are made by a division of TWDC. I have been critical of some of the decisions around P&R especially the lack of investment at WDW over the last decade or so. I suppose if everyone stopped going maybe they would spend more but I enjoy my time there and I’m not getting any younger. If I start to feel like it’s not worth my time and money I’ll stop going right away, but that has nothing to do with any feelings one way or the other for the overall brand.

I don't patronize companies which manage their stock price while abusing their employees.

I have a lot of great memories from WDW in the days prior to the way its being run into the ground now.

I really enjoyed runDisney because the races always had a great vibe. Gave that up too.

 

[GoofGoof]

I don't patronize companies which manage their stock price while abusing their employees.

That’s a lot of companies you can’t patronize. Pretty much most public companies. By the way, Comcast is notorious for stock buybacks...no Potter in your future either

 

[ford91exploder]

That’s a lot of companies you can’t patronize. Pretty much most public companies. By the way, Comcast is notorious for stock buybacks...no Potter in your future either

Most companies repurchase shares to some degree. But few companies repurchase shares at a stock manipulation level as disney does.

But if you like that kind of company. There is the "PowerShares Buyback Achievers" fund so you can invest in companies like Disney

http://www.morningstar.com/etfs/XNAS/PKW/quote.html

 

[EricsBiscuit]

Most companies repurchase shares to some degree. But few companies repurchase shares at a stock manipulation level as disney does.

But if you like that kind of company. There is the "PowerShares Buyback Achievers" fund so you can invest in companies like Disney

http://www.morningstar.com/etfs/XNAS/PKW/quote.html

I agree that they are a waste of money but at least right now they are investing a lot in the parks. Also the movies coming out are much better quality than 10 - 15 years ago.

Edit: a waste when there are other places to invest

 

[ford91exploder]

I agree that they are a waste of money but at least right now they are investing a lot in the parks. Also the movies coming out are much better quality than 10 - 15 years ago.

Edit: a waste when there are other places to invest

Unfortunately Disney is investing far more in its stock price than in its products and services, Disney wants to roll out streaming in 2020 LOL!,

DCL ships becoming dated WRT features and amenities immaculately maintained yet behind the curve,

SWL will be a license to print money yet Disney is only putting TWO attractions in where the 14 acre land could have easily supported a half dozen.

Yet Disney invests 10 dollars in their stock price for every dollar they invest in their products and services, and their financials reflect that reality.

 

[GoofGoof]

Most companies repurchase shares to some degree. But few companies repurchase shares at a stock manipulation level as disney does.

But if you like that kind of company. There is the "PowerShares Buyback Achievers" fund so you can invest in companies like Disney

http://www.morningstar.com/etfs/XNAS/PKW/quote.html

So this fund specializes in companies that buy shares back and DIS isn’t in their top 25 holdings. Doesn’t that prove the point that TWDC is not one of the worst offenders. Over 25% of the S&P 500 bought back enough of their shares to drive EPS growth over 4% so good luck avoiding products from companies that buy back shares.

 

[FigmentJedi]

I think we have another winner for best nu-Mickey short

 

[Mike S]

I think we have another winner for best nu-Mickey short

I can't wait for the ride.

 

[FigmentJedi]

I can't wait for the ride.

It almost makes me hope that the ride's token "reference to what we replaced" ends up being this setpiece where we careen through Hollywood and run into a bunch of different characters from GMR's cast and not just some tiny easter egg.

 

[Mike S]

It almost makes me hope that the ride's token "reference to what we replaced" ends up being this setpiece where we careen through Hollywood and run into a bunch of different characters from GMR's cast and not just some tiny easter egg.

Alien is going to be a funny one to see.

 

[NearTheEars]

I think we have another winner for best nu-Mickey short

That was good!

 

[AEfx]

I also think as a whole Fallon is a high quality D Ticket attraction. I truly don't see the popular talking point that unless an outside company holds their hand, Universal fails.

Yeah, I really don't get the hate that attraction gets. It's fun, cute, and it isn't meant to be some super-headliner.

 

[AEfx]

In case you folks need a switch up from Disney v. UNI round 37473, a series of articles about Harvey Weinstein’s alleged improprieties on the job are coming out soon. Wonder if Disney could be held liable for any sexual misconduct during his tenture at the company?
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/ne...-yorker-potentially-explosive-stories-1045724

Pretty sure the statute of limitations would be up on any of that.

 

[AEfx]

Sorry to go off topic (do we have a topic in this thread still?), but I just watched the 3rd episode of Star Trek Discovery. HOLY FREAKING COW that was awesome! CBS is so stupid for only showing 1 hour on broadcast television and then pushing the rest to streaming subscribers only. I am now 100% hooked on this show. It felt a little like Next Gen, definitely a bit like DS9 (Dominion war arc episodes) and yet felt completely new at the same time. The acting was good. It was cinematic. Some strange choices sure, but had they shown the 1st three episodes on TV before moving to a subscriber only model, they would have snagged a lot more viewers. Can't wait for next weeks episode!

That's what I was trying to tell people who were sticking their fingers in their ears at the premiere.

The hour they showed on CBS was like showing the first hour of any Star Trek double-length premiere. Imagine if DS9, VOY, or even TNG (maybe especially TNG...) had only shown the first hour, how many folks would have tuned in next week - much less paid for more.

Judging from just that hour, it looked like yet-another-Star-Trek-bridge show, and it basically only showcased the more off-putting features (that it looks more like Star Wars: The TV show, not Star Trek, yet-another-Klingon-redesign, no decent male characters, yet another "conflicted half-Vulcan", etc.) it was just like...what were they thinking???

And the big shame is...they pulled in some decent viewership, that proved that people would watch Star Trek again on TV. If they had at least shown the full-length premiere and the teaser for the rest (which showed what the actual show was about), I bet they would have picked up a few more subs than just "even better than the previous subs records for the Grammy's".