News New Haunted Mansion Grounds Expansion, Retail Shop Coming to Disneyland Resort in 2024

[chadwpalm]

Doesn't mean your getting into the lottery virtual queue.

A lottery implies it will run out in one second like Rise did. As stated.....double the capacity and nearly flawless reliability. Plus while popular, it's not brand new. Lastly, unlike Rise, people won't be getting to the parks any earlier than they already would have to get one.

I foresee it taking an hour or two before it runs out......at least until Halloween season when it will probably run out in a much shorter time, but still not in a matter of seconds but probably 15-30 minutes.

 

[Disney Analyst]

Weird, I didn't get this ping/notification! Just happened to see this while browsing through the forums here lol.

I don't usually track DL VQs, but will probably look out for it. Did so for the first couple days of MMRR's short-lived VQ.

I’m mostly interested in how many boarding groups go out; given the capacity.

 

[etc98]

I’m mostly interested in how many boarding groups go out; given the capacity.

I wonder if they would increase the number of boarding groups or just increase the number of people they assign to each boarding group

 

[tanc]

HM certainly will be an interesting case for VQ. Unlike other Disney rides, the ride in theory never stops. Of course when they pause it to let certain people on, but other than that it's always running. Definitely keeping an eye on it leading up to my trip.

 

[zipadee999]

HM certainly will be an interesting case for VQ. Unlike other Disney rides, the ride in theory never stops. Of course when they pause it to let certain people on, but other than that it's always running. Definitely keeping an eye on it leading up to my trip.

The stretching room really slows it down though. That’s why HM always has a considerably higher wait than something like Spaceship Earth

 

[Phroobar]

A lottery implies it will run out in one second like Rise did. As stated.....double the capacity and nearly flawless reliability. Plus while popular, it's not brand new. Lastly, unlike Rise, people won't be getting to the parks any earlier than they already would have to get one.

I foresee it taking an hour or two before it runs out......at least until Halloween season when it will probably run out in a much shorter time, but still not in a matter of seconds but probably 15-30 minutes.

Except that means you have to be in the park within 15 minutes of opening. The park doesn't start to fill up until couple of hours after rope drop. The AP crowd won't get there in time and most show up after work. The majority of people have no chance of riding it. That ride is so popular there were massive lines for HMH. I think the window of opportunity will be far less. Finally, because of poor maintenance, it has become the norm that reliable rides are now unreliable. That ride will be in creep mode most of the time as cast members figure out how to operate it.

 

[NobodyElse]

The stretching room really slows it down though. That’s why HM always has a considerably higher wait than something like Spaceship Earth

Eh, I want to say I disagree with this. (I'll try to elaborate after some coffee.)

 

[VicariousCorpse]

The stretching room really slows it down though. That’s why HM always has a considerably higher wait than something like Spaceship Earth

The stretching rooms capacity does not effect the wait time. It can handle as many guests as the omni-mover allows.

 

[WaluigiTime]

I was at Disneyland Paris a few weeks ago and Phantom Manor has two preshow rooms. There was never a wait longer than 10 minutes and usually the wait was how ever long the first preshow was so they could open the doors again. I have no idea how thier version moves people so fast.

 

[Phroobar]

I was at Disneyland Paris a few weeks ago and Phantom Manor has two preshow rooms. There was never a wait longer than 10 minutes and usually the wait was how ever long the first preshow was so they could open the doors again. I have no idea how thier version moves people so fast.

Phantom Manor doesn't have an elevator. They could just let people skip the stretching room entirely. It would be bad show though.

 

[PiratesMansion]

Phantom Manor doesn't have an elevator. They could just let people skip the stretching room entirely. It would be bad show though.

That is incorrect, Phantom Manor uses a real elevator like Disneyland's mansion.

The ones that DO NOT feature real elevators are the mansions at Magic Kingdom and Tokyo Disneyland.

 

[VicariousCorpse]

Phantom Manor doesn't have an elevator. They could just let people skip the stretching room entirely. It would be bad show though.

Yes it does. California and Paris have real elevators. Orlando and Tokyo don't. Here's what it would look like if you tried to walk back through the stretching room from the portrait hall.

 

[WaluigiTime]

Phantom Manor doesn't have an elevator. They could just let people skip the stretching room entirely. It would be bad show though.

We were not skipping it and the wait time was nothing, it was amazing.

 

[zipadee999]

The stretching rooms capacity does not effect the wait time. It can handle as many guests as the omni-mover allows.

I’m not saying it drastically impacts the wait time, but you no longer have a continuous flow of people constantly boarding. It instead splits people into batches. When one batch is about to finish boarding, I’m sure another batch is ready to enter the portrait hallway, so I wouldn’t say they drastically impact the wait time, but they prevent a continuous flow of people from boarding continuously moving vehicles like Spaceship Earth

 

[PiratesMansion]

Yes it does. California and Paris have real elevators. Orlando and Tokyo don't. Here's what it would look like if you tried to walk back through the stretching room from the portrait hall.

That was a fascinating video. I had no idea the Paris stretching rooms had an emergency exit that could be reached that way.

I'm going to assume that they didn't think of that when they put DL's elevators together in the 60s?

 

[NobodyElse]

I’m not saying it drastically impacts the wait time, but you no longer have a continuous flow of people constantly boarding. It instead splits people into batches. When one batch is about to finish boarding, I’m sure another batch is ready to enter the portrait hallway, so I wouldn’t say they drastically impact the wait time, but they prevent a continuous flow of people from boarding continuously moving vehicles like Spaceship Earth

When was the last time you walked straight from the stretching room to doom buggy boarding. Were they releasing empty vehicles ahead of you?

That could possibly happen if they're only running one stretching room, but even then it's unlikely.

It's more likely that at any given time Haunted Mansion is more popular than Spaceship Earth, and thus has a longer line.

 

[VicariousCorpse]

That was a fascinating video. I had no idea the Paris stretching rooms had an emergency exit that could be reached that way.

I'm going to assume that they didn't think of that when they put DL's elevators together in the 60s?

When they constructed Disneyland's elevators they used the pre-existing layout and foundation of the walk-thru attraction. There were dual walk-thrus with one entrance and 3 exits for each side. You would have a split pathway with 3 choices that led you to come up through up open graves in the enclosed courtyard on either side. The current day chicken exit would have been one of these.

 

[Disney Analyst]

I wonder if they would increase the number of boarding groups or just increase the number of people they assign to each boarding group

I think they'll need more, smaller groups. They can't have much of a line outside the gates due to space, so I assume it'll be smaller bursts.

 

[duncedoof]

What you just said is an open pathway to going that route

Unfortunately Disney makes it easy for criticizers to feast. The changes they’re implementing, I’d say since Chapek started becoming relevant (and beyond his firing), have been super questionable.

This rumor in particular, the possible changing of the hanging body cause it’s insensitive - a feature for over 5 decades, in an attraction that is all about death and spirits.. is so beyond stupid. Yet it’s something I think they would do in a heartbeat (no pun intended).

I completely reject this notion. No. Nothing inherently builds an "open pathway" to alt-right ideology. Nevermind, theme park discussion...

...Which is where my post was coming from. I also hate that guy's channel they posted! Because he folds anything Disney into a backwards ideology.

Read out loud just how ridiculous that sounds. That a topic, frankly, this inconsequential could have that hateful effect on a person.

You know what does open that pathway you mention? Trying to rationalize it.

It is possible to follow the inner-workings of corporate policy in America, and elsewhere, trace where it comes from, and yes, its failings, without tying it to racist conspiracy and hate speech.

The potential change is a classic case of corporate overcorrection. And as you point out, we have a lot of that going around as of late. I can guarantee you (If the rides last that long), that someday you may even see some get reversed.

Hope that helps!

 

[Epcot81Fan]

….operating a Halloween/Christmas overlay in June is perhaps the most ridiculous operational decision I've heard, and perhaps the perfect example of how little Disney cares about thematic integrity these days.

That ship sailed with the giant princess tiara on the water tower next door….