7DMT: E Ticket??

[yensidtlaw1969]

Remember that in the day of ticket books an E-ticket was based on draw and wait times. For the first two to four years this will be a E-ticket for sure.

The ticket system has never been based on draw and wait times. If that were the case, Peter Pan's Flight would have been an E-Ticket from the beginning. As would Dumbo, for much of it's life. The system simply didn't work that way.

 

[DVCOwner]

Maybe I was not clear, but cost of ride was not the only reason a ride was "E" ticket. Wait times and the draw of the ride where also taken into consideration. If there was still "E" tickets I believe the new coaster would be an "E" ticket ride for at least some time to come.

 

[Mawg]

Seems like the ticket system would have been simply set by supply and demand. Since it is difficult to change the supply of a ride (I would equate this to maximum throughput), then demand would be the determining factor. If a ride has no wait times and often goes empty, there would be no reason to charge more to ride that ride. Decrease the price until you can gain maximum throughput. If a ride constantly has a high demand and cannot accommodate the guest in a day, increase the price to ride to gain maximum profits. If Disney did not consider this when they were classifying rides with the ticket system then they were stupid and I don't think Disney was stupid. Yes demand and the cost to make an attraction are often closely tied but they don't have to be. While there are those that are not impressed with this ride and it's length it is not up to an individual to set a price point (which is essentially what a ticket is) it is up to the consumer as a group. And a price point can change over time, if demand goes down and supply remains the same the price goes down. We can argue it all we want but this ride will be an E ticket with its terrible throughput for at least a year if not the foreseeable future as people would gladly pay E ticket prices to wait in a 3 hour line in the heat and rain even if "you" won't.

 

[MarkTwain]

My opinion is that in modern attraction discussions, the quality and scale of ride determines the ticket terminology above all else, regardless of any prior definition. The fact that Anna and Elsa have a 4-hour wait doesn't make Princess Fairytale Hall an E-ticket.

 

[HTF]

I'm sorry but if this is an Eticket than so is Flight of the Hippogriff at IOA. This is a flipping D ticket in terms of overall execution of a ride. I mean its a dang kiddie coaster come on! Your spitting on your current Eticket line up by putting this in the same category.

 

[Animaniac93-98]

The best thing about the Mine Train is that the show scenes don't suffer from the same cut-corners that Mermaid does. There's no exposed ceiling or static figures that just spin in the mine, for example.

 

[yensidtlaw1969]

Maybe I was not clear, but cost of ride was not the only reason a ride was "E" ticket. Wait times and the draw of the ride where also taken into consideration. If there was still "E" tickets I believe the new coaster would be an "E" ticket ride for at least some time to come.

Again, this was not the case. See Peter Pan and Dumbo. Huge waits, huge draws, never E-Tickets. The system was based on other factors.

 

[CentralFLlife]

Its a Small World and Country Bear jamboree, and the people mover (I love the people mover but its not an E-ticket) were E-tickets at the time. Maybe it isn't the best way to judge quality of an attraction...

 

[lazyboy97o]

Its a Small World and Country Bear jamboree, and the people mover (I love the people mover but its not an E-ticket) were E-tickets at the time. Maybe it isn't the best way to judge quality of an attraction...

"It's a small world" is still a large scale attraction. So too was the Country Bear Jamboree an impressive display of technology. The WEDway PeopleMover was a display of new technologies that WEDway was hoping to build in cities.

 

[Rose&Crowner]

We can argue it all we want but this ride will be an E ticket with its terrible throughput for at least a year if not the foreseeable future as people would gladly pay E ticket prices to wait in a 3 hour line in the heat and rain even if "you" won't.

DING DING DING!!!

 

[marni1971]

E ticket for the easily pleased?

 

[SJN1279]

Mermaid had a 15 minute wait while pan was still 45 when I was there. Mermaid is not much of a draw and its pretty sad because that demographic is very easy to please.

Mermaid has a much higher capacity than Pan.

 

[CinematicFusion]

After looking at this attraction, I say this is an e-ticket ride for the young ones. No doubt a very detailed ride and fully immersive. I'm sure this is going to be a favorite for the 5-6 year olds and the parents that take them.
Watching your kids with smiles on their faces as they accomplish riding what to them is a big boy coaster filled with magical details will be enjoyable to the kid in us all. I look forward to taking my young girls on the mine train.

Problem with the mine train is it's the only thrill ride that has been built in quite some time at WDW. All those who thirst for a true e-ticket emmersive thrill ride designed for an older crowd will shine a hard light on what the mine train doesn't have. For the teenage thrill seeker in us, it doesn't have the length, the added extra show scenes, the major drop or twist.

Thats not really fair because that isn't what the ride is about. It's for the 5 year old and the parents that take them. This ride after all is in fantasyland.
However, Disney should be creating a thrill ride designed for the older crowd as we speak at DHS yet nothing is being done. That is what is disappointing, the length of time between new attractions. That is why most are so upset.
With a stock price at all time highs....Disney should be doing more at the parks, I'm looking at you Epcot and DHS.

On the mine train, I say good job Disney. I had my doubts but it looks like it will be a classic ride in the middle of fantasyland..get ready for huge lines.

 

[bhg469]

Mermaid has a much higher capacity than Pan.

True but this was staggering difference. Mermaid was essentially dead.

 

[bhg469]

E ticket for the easily pleased?

I said in another thread that the demographic for this ride a would be just as thrilled with a large cardboard box.

 

[DVCOwner]

Again, this was not the case. See Peter Pan and Dumbo. Huge waits, huge draws, never E-Tickets. The system was based on other factors.

I think that we agree, it is not just one thing that makes a "E" ticket ride. Some say it is cost, but that is not always the case. Some say it is wait times, but that is not always the case. I think that it is based on serveral factors that put the ride in the "E" ticket catogory.

 

[CinematicFusion]

I said in another thread that the demographic for this ride a would be just as thrilled with a large cardboard box.

That's not true, this ride is done very well, looks like all the little details will make this a classic dark ride for the young families. Exactly what is needed in the middle of fantasyland. I'm looking forward to riding it with my kids and enjoying it through their eyes.

I do agree disney should be working on new rides in both DHS and Epcot that cater more to a tween/teenager. I mean it's been 9 years since a major thrill ride was built at WDW? 9 years! Expedition everest was the last.

That is unreal Disney would wait that long. Everyone thirsting for a classic thrill ride will be disappointed with the mine train. But, it viewed from the parents eye with young ones...it will be an outstanding attraction. Maybe the favorite ride in all of fantasyland for the kiddies.

Now disney needs to focus on making a new favorite for the teenagers in us at DHS and Epcot.

 

[lazyboy97o]

After looking at this attraction, I say this is an e-ticket ride for the young ones. No doubt a very detailed ride and fully immersive. I'm sure this is going to be a favorite for the 5-6 year olds and the parents that take them.
Watching your kids with smiles on their faces as they accomplish riding what to them is a big boy coaster filled with magical details will be enjoyable to the kid in us all. I look forward to taking my young girls on the mine train.

Problem with the mine train is it's the only thrill ride that has been built in quite some time at WDW. All those who thirst for a true e-ticket emmersive thrill ride designed for an older crowd will shine a hard light on what the mine train doesn't have. For the teenage thrill seeker in us, it doesn't have the length, the added extra show scenes, the major drop or twist.

Thats not really fair because that isn't what the ride is about. It's for the 5 year old and the parents that take them. This ride after all is in fantasyland.
However, Disney should be creating a thrill ride designed for the older crowd as we speak at DHS yet nothing is being done. That is what is disappointing, the length of time between new attractions. That is why most are so upset.
With a stock price at all time highs....Disney should be doing more at the parks, I'm looking at you Epcot and DHS.

On the mine train, I say good job Disney. I had my doubts but it looks like it will be a classic ride in the middle of fantasyland..get ready for huge lines.

There were never Kiddie Es nor is thrill what makes an E.

 

[kap91]

I kind of wish there was a designation between D and E. After all weren't some of the original fantasyland dark rides D tickets? This is a much grander experience than those with a much higher level of detail and immersion. But then again it obviously falls short of an experience like Pirates, or Haunted Mansion. It's arguable that it is in the same category as big thunder in terms of execution - but the overall ride length is much shorter - which comes from using a larger gauge track in the same amount of space. Thrill shouldn't come into the discussion at all as that should never be a standard for how great a ride is considered.

It's hard for me to consider it "just" a D ticket when the new animatronics and the scale of mountain/visuals around it are taken into account but it's equally difficult to put it on the same level as all the e's that came before it.

So yeah I call it a d.5

 

[lazyboy97o]

I kind of wish there was a designation between D and E. After all weren't some of the original fantasyland dark rides D tickets?

No, the tradition dark rides were C tickets. At the Magic Kingdom the D tickets in fantasyland were the Skyway to Tomorrowland and the Mickey Mouse Revue.