Incomudro
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Interesting!!!!
Yes, Academy Bus.
Interesting!!!!
I apologize. Who knew bringing up a room of shredded carpet would start “The Great Crate Debate of 2017”.Gotta crate them, rule number one
I apologize. Who knew bringing up a room of shredded carpet would start “The Great Crate Debate of 2017”.
But to be clear...Well, not always. I’m no dog expert like many others here seemingly claim to be but...I spent a crap ton of money taking our canine love to vets and specialists because he was impossible to crate train. He literally chipped and broke teeth biting the cage wires/bars and the latch. (This was before they had the soft ones). EVERY SINGLE ONE said stop it. Stop it now. (We did, of course, after seeing the first but continued to seek help and answers for him) He was literally claustrophobic. He would sleep on the floor in the middle of the room, lay in the middle of the yard, avoid hallways, would never go in the bathrooms, etc. We got him as a puppy so we knew all was great and well adjusted in his upbringing-it was just him. Luckily, one of us worked from home so he wasn’t on his own that much and when AT HOME, he was fine. It was when we went to visit my mom and he was in a new place he freaked. But thanks.
You don’t need to have a dog or travel with a pet to have an opinion on this policy. That’s a fact...not an opinion
I think you have the concept of proper crating confused with dog owners who use it to control the dog and make their (the humans) life easier.No, it's the opposite. At least if you are talking about real science, not "current dog culture narrative". This has been proven over and over in this thread.
LOL, you don't have to lecture me on that. I've been trying to educate dog owners throughout the thread about projecting emotional states on dogs.
Funny, though, how you went straight to assigning "happily" there. The dog is "happy" that he is pleasing someone. Not that he's about to be confined to box barely bigger than they are.
Before you waste your breath - I am well aware of the current cult-ish dog owner culture and literature from supposed "trusted" sources that support this practice. It's supported because to places like the Humane Society, it leads to less neglectful behavior from humans to dogs, not because it benefits the dogs. They would rather have it "safely" kept in a small box than people leave dogs on leads outside, etc. for long periods of time as they used to do because there is less of a chance for them to get loose by preemptively confining them.
I will call BS on the rationale, though. Dog's "den mentality" doesn't have anything to do with it. It's just an excuse. That's like saying "humans spend 6 - 8 hours in a spot the size of a coffin while sleeping, therefore it's natural for them to lay in a coffin locked from the outside to sleep". It's about choice.
It's nothing to do with the welfare of the dog, it's about making their behavior easier for humans to manage by acclimating them to confinement. It's about selfish humans who want to own active dogs but force them to only be active dogs when it is convenient to them, and a current movement to make dogs the least trouble to care for, not improving their quality of life.
In any case, I am not going to get into an extended argument about this as I know there will be no budging on either side, because you aren't going to convince me that it's a scientifically valid thing to desensitize an animal to confinement to prevent inconvenience on behalf of their owners, and I'm not gong to convince you that dogs aren't "happy" being locked in a box.
Impossible? No. Most likely the methods being used were not correct. Especially if the dog (actually) has a neurological issue.he was impossible to crate train
Who is "every single one"? Just curious. Vets? Trainers? both?EVERY SINGLE ONE said stop it. Stop it now
Is this your personal diagnosis? Or is it medically documented?He was literally claustrophobic
"It was just him".......that mindset will never allow you to make progress. I am not being rude, I promise. But to assume you "knew all was great and well adjusted in his upbringing" is naive.We got him as a puppy so we knew all was great and well adjusted in his upbringing-it was just him
I honestly have no idea what you are talking about.You’re right.. having opinions that lead to the abuse of animals is a wonderful thing. Everyone should advocate it!
Don’t want to pay for doggie day care- just leave your dog outdoors or in a car all day.. problem solved. As long as someone has an “opinion” that it’s ok to do so.
I honestly have no idea what you are talking about.
Yeah. Ok. Thanks. Again. I would love to be perfect and all-knowing, even just for a day.Impossible? No. Most likely the methods being used were not correct. Especially if the dog (actually) has a neurological issue.
Who is "every single one"? Just curious. Vets? Trainers? both?
Is this your personal diagnosis? Or is it medically documented?
"It was just him".......that mindset will never allow you to make progress. I am not being rude, I promise. But to assume you "knew all was great and well adjusted in his upbringing" is naive.
I have no idea what I said that you deem to be nonsense but I’m glad you are at least entertained. With all the negative stuff going on in the world these days it’s good to have stuff to smile aboutThere’s a difference between having an opinion on a policy.. and the nonsense that has been said about dogs in general.
Carry on though.. some of it is amusing.
It’s not as great as it may seem. I’ve been that way my whole life and sometimes it just gets tiringYeah. Ok. Thanks. Again. I would love to be perfect and all-knowing, even just for a day.
Good lord, I needed a good gut laugh after a day like today. TGIF!It’s not as great as it may seem. I’ve been that way my whole life and sometimes it just gets tiring
Dogs just don't need to be in the resorts. It just causes more unnecessary problems.
But, But $50 night upcharge...
Just wait until they add the dog upcharge for the Halloween party or Christmas party...bring your dog in a costume or Santa hat and get those pictures taken. The upcharge possibilities are endless. Maybe a dog character meal or a dog desert party and fireworks viewing...that one could get messy with all the loud noise
As I recall did not the MK at one point have 'dog days' when you could bring Fido and Fluffy?
There was THIS at least.
It was the little things like this that made WDW Magical at least in my opinion.
Disney had more restrictions on that event than their new dog policy. Only FL residents could participate; 70 lbs weight limit; documented proof of spay/neuter....I have no doubt if this pilot is successful they will add more of those type events. It’s a gold mine for Disney. They regularly close the MK early for upcharge events during Halloween and Christmas but this would add a potential for year round events and they could rotate parks. Food and Wine dog day, Star Wars dog day at DHS...the possibilities are endless and the profits are potentially huge
Hi: Glad to hear you made it to POR ok. I know you are really excited, and having a ball and eating lots of ice cream! So jealous!In POR now and during our first day have seen 2 dogs - one being taken for a walk by his owner (so I’m not sure how much control they would have had if that dog had seen something and run off) and the other in the car park at block. 24
On a side note I didn’t get any communication about the dog policy I only knew about it because of this forum which I don’t think is right on Disney’s part.
Just thought a current update might be of use!
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