4 Walt Disney World Resorts to accept dogs

[GoofGoof]

Oh, I have no idea.
I'm just thinking that a dog under some severe separation anxiety can do a lot of damage, costly damage in a very short period of time.
I'm just thinking that a dog in a completely strange environment could easily chew up bed frames, tables, chairs...
All in one afternoon.
It just seems like a risky thing to allow dogs to stay alone in rooms not specifically designed for dogs.
Perhaps they'll wrap the lower portions of furniture with metal sheeting?

It depends on how willing they are to enforce the damage waiver. That kind of damage should be paid for outside of the $50 fee. Damage on a smaller scale like scratches on a door frame or the occasional small wet accident on a carpet may get overlooked. In those cases I would assume Disney wouldn’t charge the guest but they may also not fix the damage. Is someone traveling with their own dog and staying in a dog room going to complain if there are small stains on the carpet or scratches on the walls or furniture? I’m sure a non-dog guest would not be happy which is why they should really keep the rooms segregated.

 

[Pixieish]

Have you read IT or seen either of the films...clowns kill children too

I still can't believe that's Tim Curry under there...."We all float down here. We float!"

 

[MissingDisney]

Oh, I have no idea.
I'm just thinking that a dog under some severe separation anxiety can do a lot of damage, costly damage in a very short period of time.
I'm just thinking that a dog in a completely strange environment could easily chew up bed frames, tables, chairs...
All in one afternoon.
It just seems like a risky thing to allow dogs to stay alone in rooms not specifically designed for dogs.
Perhaps they'll wrap the lower portions of furniture with metal sheeting?

We had a lab mix that literally shredded a hallway and an entire dining room worth of lovely carpet when we left him at my mom’s house to go out to dinner. We were gone 2 hours max. “Oh he’ll be fine” she said, “probably just look out the window”.
“I just love spending thousands of dollars on new carpet IN SOMEONE ELSE’S HOUSE” - said no one EVER!!!

 

[Horizons '83]

We had a lab mix that literally shredded a hallway and an entire dining room worth of lovely carpet when we left him at my mom’s house to go out to dinner. We were gone 2 hours max. “Oh he’ll be fine” she said, “probably just look out the window”.
“I just love spending thousands of dollars on new carpet IN SOMEONE ELSE’S HOUSE” - said no one EVER!!!

Gotta crate them, rule number one

 

[larryz]

Perhaps they'll wrap the lower portions of furniture with metal sheeting?

This just in -- exclusive images from the newest resort on property: Disney's Orange County Jail Dog Resort

 

[GoofGoof]

Gotta crate them, rule number one

Not at Disney

This just in -- exclusive images from the newest resort on property: Disney's Orange County Jail Dog Resort

Perfect toilets for drinking while left in the room alone all day

 

[Gitson Shiggles]

FYI, as a retired microbiologist a colleague several years ago did a study of the intestinal bacterial profile of dog owners and their dogs. It turned out they shared the same bacteria profile. The profile differed between owners, How this occurs I'll leave that up to your imagination.

Hmm....
"Come give Mommy a kiss. Yeah, dat's a good boy!"

 

[AEfx]

Gotta crate them, rule number one

Wow, and here we were worried about the poor things cooped up in a hotel room all day. For the ones who are jailed in little boxes at home, it might actually be a relief.

 

[jakeman]

In fairness, the monkey in the diaper is not capable of killing a human.
But it doesn't belong in the park, and should have been kept out.

Wait...back up...if it wasn't wearing the diaper would it be murder-capable?

 

[Raineman]

Here's my report on the dog situation at WDW. We have been staying at POR since Sunday, and our room is located in building 80, which is one of the designated dog buildings. I have not, as yet, seen or heard a dog, either in my room, in the hotel walkways, on the resort grounds or in the resort lobby, Riverside Mill/Fultons. Now, POR is a large resort, and I have not walked every pathway here, but, as I stated, no dog sighting as of yet.

 

[Horizons '83]

Wow, and here we were worried about the poor things cooped up in a hotel room all day. For the ones who are jailed in little boxes at home, it might actually be a relief.

Yes, I crate my dog because its safer for him, he is a chewier. If I even considered bringing him (which I won't) to the World he would be crated as well. There is nothing wrong with that, just the responsible thing to do until he is out of the puppy phase, but thanks for the judging

It seems that many here who oppose this pilot, are fairly uneducated on dogs and how they should be trained and cared for.

 

[Incomudro]

We had a lab mix that literally shredded a hallway and an entire dining room worth of lovely carpet when we left him at my mom’s house to go out to dinner. We were gone 2 hours max. “Oh he’ll be fine” she said, “probably just look out the window”.
“I just love spending thousands of dollars on new carpet IN SOMEONE ELSE’S HOUSE” - said no one EVER!!!

Yeah, I've heard numerous stories like this.
I knew a family who left their dog in the car (it was a long time ago, I don't remember the circumstances - hopefully it wasn't hot that day) and returned to find that the dog "ate" the interior of their car.

 

[21stamps]

Yeah, I've heard numerous stories like this.
I knew a family who left their dog in the car (it was a long time ago, I don't remember the circumstances - hopefully it wasn't hot that day) and returned to find that the dog "ate" the interior of their car.

Those are horrible people, not a horrible dog. Who the heck leaves a dog alone in a car?!
I hope the dog tore the interior to shreds, and I hope it was a relatively new car. Disgusting people.

Yes, I crate my dog because its safer for him, he is a chewier. If I even considered bringing him (which I won't) to the World he would be crated as well. There is nothing wrong with that, just the responsible thing to do until he is out of the puppy phase, but thanks for the judging

It seems that many here who oppose this pilot, are fairly uneducated on dogs and how they should be trained and cared for.

This is why I gave up. You can not reason with people who aren’t coming from a reasonable place to start with. Don’t have dogs, don’t stay in dog friendly hotels, never traveled with a dog.. but experts on dog behavior.

Just enjoy the entertainment value of the posts.

Here's my report on the dog situation at WDW. We have been staying at POR since Sunday, and our room is located in building 80, which is one of the designated dog buildings. I have not, as yet, seen or heard a dog, either in my room, in the hotel walkways, on the resort grounds or in the resort lobby, Riverside Mill/Fultons. Now, POR is a large resort, and I have not walked every pathway here, but, as I stated, no dog sighting as of yet.

Sounds typical for a pet friendly hotel.
Enjoy your trip!

 

[wdisney9000]

Those are horrible people, not a horrible dog. Who the heck leaves a dog alone in a car?!

It never fails that people will blame the dog, not themselves for making a stupid decision.

For the ones who are jailed in little boxes at home,

Do not put human emotions into canine that do not exist. A crate/kennel is only a negative thing if the HUMAN makes it one. ALL canine species (wolves, dingos, jackals, DOGS, etc) have what is known as "den mentality". They will literally stay in their "den" for anywhere from 6-12 hours at a time and are perfectly fine and comfortable. Just because we domesticated dogs does not mean they are humans and become "sad" when you put them in crate. Most people have no clue how to acclimate a dog to a crate. I have worked with many dogs whose owners said "youll never get him to go into the crate, he hates it". I love the look on their face after ive trained the dog and give the command and the dog HAPPILY runs into its crate with its tail wagging.

 

[Santa Raccoon 77]

Here's my report on the dog situation at WDW. We have been staying at POR since Sunday, and our room is located in building 80, which is one of the designated dog buildings. I have not, as yet, seen or heard a dog, either in my room, in the hotel walkways, on the resort grounds or in the resort lobby, Riverside Mill/Fultons. Now, POR is a large resort, and I have not walked every pathway here, but, as I stated, no dog sighting as of yet.

Sounds like your experience of PORS is the same as the last 2 weeks we have just been there.

 

[Incomudro]

Those are horrible people, not a horrible dog. Who the heck leaves a dog alone in a car?!
I hope the dog tore the interior to shreds, and I hope it was a relatively new car. Disgusting people.
The story of the dog left in the car took place decades ago, in the mid 70's.
I do not remember how long the dog was left alone.


This is why I gave up. You can not reason with people who aren’t coming from a reasonable place to start with. Don’t have dogs, don’t stay in dog friendly hotels, never traveled with a dog.. but experts on dog behavior.

Just enjoy the entertainment value of the posts.


Sounds typical for a pet friendly hotel.
Enjoy your trip!

 

[AEfx]

It seems that many here who oppose this pilot, are fairly uneducated on dogs and how they should be trained and cared for.

No, it's the opposite. At least if you are talking about real science, not "current dog culture narrative". This has been proven over and over in this thread.

Do not put human emotions into canine that do not exist. A crate/kennel is only a negative thing if the HUMAN makes it one. ALL canine species (wolves, dingos, jackals, DOGS, etc) have what is known as "den mentality". They will literally stay in their "den" for anywhere from 6-12 hours at a time and are perfectly fine and comfortable. Just because we domesticated dogs does not mean they are humans and become "sad" when you put them in crate. Most people have no clue how to acclimate a dog to a crate. I have worked with many dogs whose owners said "youll never get him to go into the crate, he hates it". I love the look on their face after ive trained the dog and give the command and the dog HAPPILY runs into its crate with its tail wagging.

LOL, you don't have to lecture me on that. I've been trying to educate dog owners throughout the thread about projecting emotional states on dogs.

Funny, though, how you went straight to assigning "happily" there. The dog is "happy" that he is pleasing someone. Not that he's about to be confined to box barely bigger than they are.

Before you waste your breath - I am well aware of the current cult-ish dog owner culture and literature from supposed "trusted" sources that support this practice. It's supported because to places like the Humane Society, it leads to less neglectful behavior from humans to dogs, not because it benefits the dogs. They would rather have it "safely" kept in a small box than people leave dogs on leads outside, etc. for long periods of time as they used to do because there is less of a chance for them to get loose by preemptively confining them.

I will call BS on the rationale, though. Dog's "den mentality" doesn't have anything to do with it. It's just an excuse. That's like saying "humans spend 6 - 8 hours in a spot the size of a coffin while sleeping, therefore it's natural for them to lay in a coffin locked from the outside to sleep". It's about choice.

It's nothing to do with the welfare of the dog, it's about making their behavior easier for humans to manage by acclimating them to confinement. It's about selfish humans who want to own active dogs but force them to only be active dogs when it is convenient to them, and a current movement to make dogs the least trouble to care for, not improving their quality of life.

In any case, I am not going to get into an extended argument about this as I know there will be no budging on either side, because you aren't going to convince me that it's a scientifically valid thing to desensitize an animal to confinement to prevent inconvenience on behalf of their owners, and I'm not gong to convince you that dogs aren't "happy" being locked in a box.

 

[AEfx]

Here's my report on the dog situation at WDW. We have been staying at POR since Sunday, and our room is located in building 80, which is one of the designated dog buildings. I have not, as yet, seen or heard a dog, either in my room, in the hotel walkways, on the resort grounds or in the resort lobby, Riverside Mill/Fultons. Now, POR is a large resort, and I have not walked every pathway here, but, as I stated, no dog sighting as of yet.

Thanks for the report. I think that is what is expected. People book trips to WDW months in advance. I don't think we will know until at least the first of the year how many people will actually end up doing this.

 

[21stamps]

No, it's the opposite. At least if you are talking about real science, not "current dog culture narrative". This has been proven over and over in this thread.



LOL, you don't have to lecture me on that. I've been trying to educate dog owners throughout the thread about projecting emotional states on dogs.

Funny, though, how you went straight to assigning "happily" there. The dog is "happy" that he is pleasing someone. Not that he's about to be confined to box barely bigger than they are.

Before you waste your breath - I am well aware of the current cult-ish dog owner culture and literature from supposed "trusted" sources that support this practice. It's supported because to places like the Humane Society, it leads to less neglectful behavior from humans to dogs, not because it benefits the dogs. They would rather have it "safely" kept in a small box than people leave dogs on leads outside, etc. for long periods of time as they used to do because there is less of a chance for them to get loose by preemptively confining them.

I will call BS on the rationale, though. Dog's "den mentality" doesn't have anything to do with it. It's just an excuse. That's like saying "humans spend 6 - 8 hours in a spot the size of a coffin while sleeping, therefore it's natural for them to lay in a coffin locked from the outside to sleep". It's about choice.

It's nothing to do with the welfare of the dog, it's about making their behavior easier for humans to manage by acclimating them to confinement. It's about selfish humans who want to own active dogs but force them to only be active dogs when it is convenient to them, and a current movement to make dogs the least trouble to care for, not improving their quality of life.

In any case, I am not going to get into an extended argument about this as I know there will be no budging on either side, because you aren't going to convince me that it's a scientifically valid thing to desensitize an animal to confinement to prevent inconvenience on behalf of their owners, and I'm not gong to convince you that dogs aren't "happy" being locked in a box.

You have said some crazy and completely wrong things in this thread, but this post tops all of them.

You are so far off base that you aren’t even in the same ballpark. Don’t spread around falsities as facts, it doesn’t benefit anyone.

 

[Incomudro]

It never fails that people will blame the dog, not themselves for making a stupid decision.

Do not put human emotions into canine that do not exist. A crate/kennel is only a negative thing if the HUMAN makes it one. ALL canine species (wolves, dingos, jackals, DOGS, etc) have what is known as "den mentality". They will literally stay in their "den" for anywhere from 6-12 hours at a time and are perfectly fine and comfortable. Just because we domesticated dogs does not mean they are humans and become "sad" when you put them in crate. Most people have no clue how to acclimate a dog to a crate. I have worked with many dogs whose owners said "youll never get him to go into the crate, he hates it". I love the look on their face after ive trained the dog and give the command and the dog HAPPILY runs into its crate with its tail wagging.

No, it's the opposite. At least if you are talking about real science, not "current dog culture narrative". This has been proven over and over in this thread.



LOL, you don't have to lecture me on that. I've been trying to educate dog owners throughout the thread about projecting emotional states on dogs.

Funny, though, how you went straight to assigning "happily" there. The dog is "happy" that he is pleasing someone. Not that he's about to be confined to box barely bigger than they are.

Before you waste your breath - I am well aware of the current cult-ish dog owner culture and literature from supposed "trusted" sources that support this practice. It's supported because to places like the Humane Society, it leads to less neglectful behavior from humans to dogs, not because it benefits the dogs. They would rather have it "safely" kept in a small box than people leave dogs on leads outside, etc. for long periods of time as they used to do because there is less of a chance for them to get loose by preemptively confining them.

I will call BS on the rationale, though. Dog's "den mentality" doesn't have anything to do with it. It's just an excuse. That's like saying "humans spend 6 - 8 hours in a spot the size of a coffin while sleeping, therefore it's natural for them to lay in a coffin locked from the outside to sleep". It's about choice.

It's nothing to do with the welfare of the dog, it's about making their behavior easier for humans to manage by acclimating them to confinement. It's about selfish humans who want to own active dogs but force them to only be active dogs when it is convenient to them, and a current movement to make dogs the least trouble to care for, not improving their quality of life.

In any case, I am not going to get into an extended argument about this as I know there will be no budging on either side, because you aren't going to convince me that it's a scientifically valid thing to desensitize an animal to confinement to prevent inconvenience on behalf of their owners, and I'm not gong to convince you that dogs aren't "happy" being locked in a box.

Your posts on this subject are great.
I was going to say, that there is a difference between say, a wolf going in a den and a dog going into a crate.
The wolf enters the den on its own accord, and likewise - is free to exit whenever it wants.
The dog by contrast is locked in the crate, and cannot exit until it is opened by the human.
(Yes, I know that the crate is also left open a other times - such as training, and that the dog can view the cage as a - forgive the term - safe space.)
Which leads me to:
My story re. the dog locked in the car.
As long as it wasn't hot out, and the dog had ventilation...
How was being locked in a car any worse than being locked in a crate?