Just calm down and follow the data. We will get through this. Let's not make a bad situation worse which I am afraid we are about to do....again
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Politics 28000 Layoffs coming to Disney's domestic theme parks - statement from Josh D'Amaro
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Oh, the irony....
ImperfectPixie
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It's already happening. The data always lags reality by ~2 weeks. I'm in MA, and in our town we were down to single-digit active cases. We're back up to over 100 in less than two weeks.
That is a very reckless and cavalier statement to make. Yes job losses can be recovered over time, but in the interim it causes tremendous devastation. You shouldn't judge the devastating impact of either or say one is worse than the other. The emotional toll of not being able to provide for your family or yourself can be just as bad if not worse.
John park hopper
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My son and daughter law and granddaughter were at WDW in 2019, they are going this Thursday for 4 days. I will be very interested to hear what they think.
WDW is somewhere around 16k. I haven’t been following DLR that closely for numbers there.
ImperfectPixie
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This entire pandemic is devastating to way too many people. I'm not making light of losses of ANY kind.
I'm sick and tired of people complaining about the closures (that are mostly over) and mask mandates. WE NEED TO DO BETTER THAN WE ARE so that we don't have to experience MORE closures, and so that more people don't die.
WEAR A MASK. SOCIAL DISTANCE. AVOID LARGE GATHERINGS. WASH YOUR HANDS.
That's not asking very freaking much.
Devils advocate - I thought Massachusetts was a model of a state taking Covid seriously with stringent social distancing and mask wearing requirements. How is it possible that even by adhering to all the strict requirement has it gotten that bad that quickly?
TrainsOfDisney
Well-Known Member
Yes please. For the love of Walt!
This is from OCR on 10-14.
"An exact count of the layoffs at the Disneyland resort is not yet available, but an early estimate puts the number in excess of 8,700 employees — with the number expected to rise."
Disneyland reaches return to work agreements with 11 employee unions
Unions representing the vast majority of cast members have signed agreements that will allow Disneyland to responsibly bring back staff as soon as possible, according to Disney officials.
www.ocregister.com
ImperfectPixie
Well-Known Member
We were actually a hot-spot at the beginning...we clamped down hard and brought our cases way down and were doing really well for a while, but then people became complacent and didn't follow the mandates as strictly.
Our town actually put out lit highway signs warning that if masks aren't worn in public spaces they will be closed, and they've hired people to follow through on fines for violating mandates like capacities and masks. This all within the last couple of weeks.
Most business (especially in hospitality and retail) are still subject to strict capacity restrictions.
Don't just whitewash the secondary effects as insignificant because the body count doesn't match up. Those problems (such as opioid addictions) will continue to linger long beyond when this virus is brought under control.
ImperfectPixie
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I'm well aware...I have a friend who is a licensed therapist who deals with addiction and domestic violence. She's slammed right now.
Yes, restrictions are in place...for good reason. They aren't full-on closures though, which I'm afraid we'll have to experience again if people don't hurry up and comply with what we're being asked to do.
ETA: It's like we're kids who have been placed in time-out, and we keep trying to sneak out...so our time-out keeps having to get extended because we aren't learning our lesson.
flynnibus
Premium Member
It was announced as the division... and the division includes parks, cruises, travel, dvc, consumer products...
Theatre is under the Studios Division.
I've not tracked it line by line.. but sure felt like we were seeing parks totals in the 10k range... which left huge amounts unaccounted for. I've seen one quote that says the division has around 100k employees. But we've only had the union statements to say any breakdowns of whose impacted. (that I've seen cross my way...)
I live in NJ and it was the exact same way. We have some of the strictest restrictions in the country at present and yet our numbers continue to deteriorate. Yet we see more and more people not adhering to any sort of compliance measures. (And these non-compliers aren't the stereotypical knuckle dragging red-state neanderthals. It has been noted by the press here that often the biggest flouters of mask regs are the exact opposite demographic.)
ImperfectPixie
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Pretty sure I know exactly the type of person you're talking about.
lightningtap347
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That wasn't even a complete thought.
brb1006
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I don't like the sound of that...
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Disney Analyst
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Let me jump in, as someone in the performance industry:
Equity performers in general are all out of work. There are barely any equity contracts currently running/productions available. All performers (union or non union) in general are just screwed everywhere, unless you are in the film industry.
So we can hate Disney for how they handled this, but it was inevitable with the current situation.
But it seems all equity performers who worked for Disney will get 1st dibs when shows start remounting ( up to end of next year), and if they don’t take it, I guarantee a thousand other equity performers desperate for work will audition for the job.
Whoever starts hiring performers back first will have a huge pool to pull from, as almost every performer is currently out of work... and will be either career changing, or holding on for live performance to continue again.
And we can speculate until the cows come home what Disney will do, will they ever have performers again? But these are unprecedented times, and we just have to wait and see... and hope.
I personally don’t see Disney just never investing in performance / atmosphere performance ever gain.
Equity performers in general are all out of work. There are barely any equity contracts currently running/productions available. All performers (union or non union) in general are just screwed everywhere, unless you are in the film industry.
So we can hate Disney for how they handled this, but it was inevitable with the current situation.
But it seems all equity performers who worked for Disney will get 1st dibs when shows start remounting ( up to end of next year), and if they don’t take it, I guarantee a thousand other equity performers desperate for work will audition for the job.
Whoever starts hiring performers back first will have a huge pool to pull from, as almost every performer is currently out of work... and will be either career changing, or holding on for live performance to continue again.
And we can speculate until the cows come home what Disney will do, will they ever have performers again? But these are unprecedented times, and we just have to wait and see... and hope.
I personally don’t see Disney just never investing in performance / atmosphere performance ever gain.