Politics 28000 Layoffs coming to Disney's domestic theme parks - statement from Josh D'Amaro

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flynnibus

Premium Member
It was parks, imagineering and cruises correct?
Do Disney stores count as well? What about Disney theatrical?

It was announced as the division... and the division includes parks, cruises, travel, dvc, consumer products...

Theatre is under the Studios Division.

I've not tracked it line by line.. but sure felt like we were seeing parks totals in the 10k range... which left huge amounts unaccounted for. I've seen one quote that says the division has around 100k employees. But we've only had the union statements to say any breakdowns of whose impacted. (that I've seen cross my way...)
 

monothingie

Ludicrous Speed, GO!
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We were actually a hot-spot at the beginning...we clamped down hard and brought our cases way down and were doing really well for a while, but then people became complacent and didn't follow the mandates as strictly.
I live in NJ and it was the exact same way. We have some of the strictest restrictions in the country at present and yet our numbers continue to deteriorate. Yet we see more and more people not adhering to any sort of compliance measures. (And these non-compliers aren't the stereotypical knuckle dragging red-state neanderthals. It has been noted by the press here that often the biggest flouters of mask regs are the exact opposite demographic.)
 

ImperfectPixie

Well-Known Member
I live in NJ and it was the exact same way. We have some of the strictest restrictions in the country at present and yet our numbers continue to deteriorate. Yet we see more and more people not adhering to any sort of compliance measures. (And these non-compliers aren't the stereotypical knuckle dragging red-state neanderthals. It has been noted by the press here that often the biggest flouters of mask regs are the exact opposite demographic.)
Pretty sure I know exactly the type of person you're talking about.
 

Disney Analyst

Well-Known Member
Let me jump in, as someone in the performance industry:

Equity performers in general are all out of work. There are barely any equity contracts currently running/productions available. All performers (union or non union) in general are just screwed everywhere, unless you are in the film industry.

So we can hate Disney for how they handled this, but it was inevitable with the current situation.

But it seems all equity performers who worked for Disney will get 1st dibs when shows start remounting ( up to end of next year), and if they don’t take it, I guarantee a thousand other equity performers desperate for work will audition for the job.

Whoever starts hiring performers back first will have a huge pool to pull from, as almost every performer is currently out of work... and will be either career changing, or holding on for live performance to continue again.

And we can speculate until the cows come home what Disney will do, will they ever have performers again? But these are unprecedented times, and we just have to wait and see... and hope.

I personally don’t see Disney just never investing in performance / atmosphere performance ever gain.
 

lazyboy97o

Well-Known Member
Nope sorry, governments response has been to lock down, which has caused more pain than the actual threat. No balance or risk based decision-making at play. Lock downs as we have done have never been tried before and the data proves most of the lock down actions governments have taken have not worked. Sweden is exhibit A on what does work.
So you think Walt Disney World should still be closed like it would be if in Sweden?
 

RSoxNo1

Well-Known Member
Any word on the following?
  • Jedi Training Academy - Trials of the Temple
  • UP! A Great Bird Adventure (I know there's an alternate show going on now)
  • Disney Junior Dance Party! (I believe this also has an alternate show going on)
  • Spirit of Aloha Dinner Show
  • Enchanted Tales with Belle
 
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UNCgolf

Well-Known Member
Let me jump in, as someone in the performance industry:

Equity performers in general are all out of work. There are barely any equity contracts currently running/productions available. All performers (union or non union) in general are just screwed everywhere, unless you are in the film industry.

So we can hate Disney for how they handled this, but it was inevitable with the current situation.

But it seems all equity performers who worked for Disney will get 1st dibs when shows start remounting ( up to end of next year), and if they don’t take it, I guarantee a thousand other equity performers desperate for work will audition for the job.

Whoever starts hiring performers back first will have a huge pool to pull from, as almost every performer is currently out of work... and will be either career changing, or holding on for live performance to continue again.

And we can speculate until the cows come home what Disney will do, will they ever have performers again? But these are unprecedented times, and we just have to wait and see... and hope.

I personally don’t see Disney just never investing in performance / atmosphere performance ever gain.

My non-insider guess is that shows will come back. Probably not all the same shows -- seems like Little Mermaid is done, and I could see them deciding to permanently shut down Indy as well -- but there will still be shows and possibly some new ones to replace ones that are closed.

Streetmosphere and other scattered entertainment in the resorts, though? The outlook there is bleak. I don't think the parks will be completely devoid of it, but they've been cutting back on it for years. There were already significantly fewer performers than there were in the past due to cuts. It seems like they look at that as an easy place to save money, and one that won't have any significant effect on attendance (and they're probably right). I don't expect something like the Grand Floridian Orchestra to return; they'd already shunted it off into a corner.
 

UNCgolf

Well-Known Member
Any word on the following?
  • Jedi Training Academy - Trials of the Temple
  • For the First Time in Forever: A Frozen Sing-Along Celebration
  • UP! A Great Bird Adventure (I know there's an alternate show going on now)
  • Disney Junior Dance Party! (I believe this also has an alternate show going on)
  • Spirit of Aloha Dinner Show
  • Enchanted Tales with Belle

Didn't they fire the Spirit of Aloha performers back in September when people like Yeeha Bob were cut?
 

Disney Analyst

Well-Known Member
My non-insider guess is that shows will come back. Probably not all the same shows -- seems like Little Mermaid is done, and I could see them deciding to permanently shut down Indy as well -- but there will still be shows and possibly some new ones to replace ones that are closed.

Streetmosphere and other scattered entertainment in the resorts, though? The outlook there is bleak. I don't think the parks will be completely devoid of it, but they've been cutting back on it for years. There were already significantly fewer performers than there were in the past due to cuts. It seems like they look at that as an easy place to save money, and one that won't have any significant effect on attendance (and they're probably right). I don't expect something like the Grand Floridian Orchestra to return; they'd already shunted it off into a corner.

Less, probably. But I do think they will bring back Streetmosphere to some capacity once the parks are in good standing again. I sincerely hope they do, and will hold on to that hope until we know one way or another.
 

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