20K Water poured into Little Mermaid

lazyboy97o

Well-Known Member
@unkadug is right. The trees just north of the area between 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea and Pinocchio's Village Haus was never a publicly accessible area. Even when 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea was open, that area was not accessible. Today it is Be Our Guest and I think some parts of the poor provincial town. I do not think this small area is enough to constitute the largest expansion ever, but it is expansion nonetheless.
 

JungleTrekFan

Active Member
Neat idea, but why not wait until the official opening? Why do that on a random Tuesday during cast previews?
I believe this was actually done Thursday of last week. Their was a lot of filming crews and special events people in FLE that day when i was walking through MK.

I also think its funny looking at the old MK photos and seeing that were getting 3 attractions (4 if you count Ariels M&G), 2 restaurants, and 1 or 2 gift shops in an area that formerly held one attraction.

Ohh and the randomness that they bottled the 20K League’s water is kinda weird and gross to me. But then again the ceremony for the Fountain of Nations when they poured in water from different countries is interesting and kinda cool, but still a weird idea to me.
 

Castle Cake Apologist

Well-Known Member
This is a very cool and completely unnecessary (and certainly unexpected) thing that Disney did to acknowledge their past.

The fact that people are somehow finding a way to complain about it further proves the point that people here will about any little thing. No wonder Disney seems to care less about the forums community. It really is sad.

Find a new shtick, guys. Broken Yetis and lack of E-tickets are fine and worthy of our gripes. Complaining about pretty cool symbolic ceremonies is not. You can only play a broken record so much before people tune it out or start to get annoyed by it.
 

Fable McCloud

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I think what they did was nice. We all know deep in our hearts that 20,000 Leagues isn't coming back, so at least this is a nice way of integrating the ride into a new one. It wasn't like they just paved over everything and said "meh". They know the ride meant something to people, and this was a good transition in my opinion.
 

AEfx

Well-Known Member
This is a very cool and completely unnecessary (and certainly unexpected) thing that Disney did to acknowledge their past.

The fact that people are somehow finding a way to complain about it further proves the point that people here will about any little thing. No wonder Disney seems to care less about the forums community. It really is sad.

Find a new shtick, guys. Broken Yetis and lack of E-tickets are fine and worthy of our gripes. Complaining about pretty cool symbolic ceremonies is not. You can only play a broken record so much before people tune it out or start to get annoyed by it.

If you read what most of us have said, it wasn't that they did it that was bad. I think it was neat. What was stupid was having a bunch of nobody mommy bloggers do it. It took all meaning it could have had and flushed it down the drain.

What would have been cool is if they had cast members who had been there since 20K was around, perhaps even worked on it, to pour the water - or designers, or anyone that actually had anything to do with it whatsoever. Instead, it was used as another lead for a new set of mommy blogs about magical Disney. (Though I bet some of those glasses end up on eBay, even if they haven't already.)

What you miss is the nuance here - one simple change (who was pouring the water) would have made this a really neat event, as opposed to a crass waste of time that simply affirmed a lot of criticism already leveled at them. Talk about playing into the stereotype of Disney kissing butt to Mommy Bloggers. Cripes, if had been Jim Hill, Kevin Yee, and Lou Mongello it would have been more signifigant - and that's not saying much.

Since you have such a low opinion of us I wonder why you bother posting, but I'll take you at your statements and have explained pretty fully the difference between "eternal dissatisfaction" and criticism of laziness and crassness.
 

stevehousse

Well-Known Member
I am aware that there are "auditions" for new Disney mom bloggers for their website going on right now. Maybe this has something to do with that, since this seemed to be so low key???
 

Tom Morrow

Well-Known Member
I'm willing to believe that, before the lagoon was finally drained and demolished in 2004, people filled some jugs or something for sentiment. I mean, that's only 8 years anyway, not 18.

Its also interesting that Mermaid's building is almost the exact same size and shape as the 20k show building, and 7 Dwarfs is similar shape and location to the exterior 20k lagoon.

(source - google earth historical imagery)
 

montyz81

Well-Known Member
Why No? A more involved ride was replaced with something less so. It may not be on the level of Horizons to M:S but it basically meets that criteria. 20k had much more to it then UTS. The line is certainly more involved on UTS then 20k but the ride itself seemed to have more to it on 20k that out weighs the waiting line aspect of this. That said, I am just glad something is back in that space. It is much better then what has been there for the past 13 or so years.
 

montyz81

Well-Known Member
I think what they did was nice. We all know deep in our hearts that 20,000 Leagues isn't coming back, so at least this is a nice way of integrating the ride into a new one. It wasn't like they just paved over everything and said "meh". They know the ride meant something to people, and this was a good transition in my opinion.
There is also a more permanent recognition of the ride that was there before in the form of the Nautilus imprinted into the rock work. Does someone have a picture?
 

WDWYankee15

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s8film40

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@unkadug is right. The trees just north of the area between 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea and Pinocchio's Village Haus was never a publicly accessible area. Even when 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea was open, that area was not accessible. Today it is Be Our Guest and I think some parts of the poor provincial town. I do not think this small area is enough to constitute the largest expansion ever, but it is expansion nonetheless.
While it's true that this was not a publicly accessible area it was part of the attraction space since it was the ride vehicle maintenance area and attraction support area. As with any E-Ticket attraction larger amounts of space are usually needed to add/remove and maintain vehicles when compared to smaller more simplistic rides. So yes converting E-Ticket attractions to D/C attractions does indeed create more public accessible space to be used for shops/restaurants etc. This formula could be used pretty much anywhere, take out a big attraction replace with a couple of smaller ones, shops, and restaurants. Then hype it up as a New Land, Big expansion, etc. and increase profits.
 

Goofnut1980

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Although noone ever said "all" of the water was from the lagoon. you could easily boil the water and can it like you would pickles. Then you could simply add a single drop to the bowl of new fresh water and then, a little pixie dust, you have water from the lagoon. With no smell.
 

Goofnut1980

Well-Known Member
That's 21st century, the Skyway is all gone, but 20K hasn't been cleared yet. So 2000 to 2004 then, just to add further useless information. Now to wait for Marni, who could tell you the exact day based on the tech specifications of a speaker system he sees in some backstage area.

Here's the MK in 1978 as seen from the redeveloped area otherwise known as the expansion:

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That is a great pic... looks cool seeing all 3 rides together......
 

flynnibus

Premium Member
Here's why I'm skeptical...

Which would make a better video? watching a lady read from a bad script... or interviewing an imagineer who had the foresight to take and hold onto water 18 years ago when there was little visibility into what the future held.. and where/how they kept this.. and who this mysterious long term employee actually was.

Instead we get a video of a bunch of moms pouring out highballs.. in a ceremony that looks like it was arranged by an intern.

If I were in marketing.. I know which video I would have made...
 

stevehousse

Well-Known Member
Here's why I'm skeptical...

Which would make a better video? watching a lady read from a bad script... or interviewing an imagineer who had the foresight to take and hold onto water 18 years ago when there was little visibility into what the future held.. and where/how they kept this.. and who this mysterious long term employee actually was.

Instead we get a video of a bunch of moms pouring out highballs.. in a ceremony that looks like it was arranged by an intern.

If I were in marketing.. I know which video I would have made...

unless your a huge Disney fan, most of the general public doesn't know what An imagineer is anymore, And I do think they deserve more recognition than they get.
 

ExtinctJenn

Well-Known Member
I dunno... I saw this and beleive it. Yes the ride closed forever ago and they probably didn't have the foresight then to grab the water but I'd be willing to believe that years later when they finally drained and demolished the lagoon someone said "let's get a big bottle and fill it with this water." Now... TECHNICALLY if that's when it was done, the water they took never touched a sub. The lagoon was drained after the show building was demo'd and for when they installed Tritan and then refilled. I think the key here is though, regardless, it's the symbolism of it all and the fact that Disney is no longer hiding their extinct attractions by sweeping them under a rug and never mentioning them again. It was nice to see them formally recognize where the new attraction sits with something like this vs. just a hidden sub in the rock work.
 

GrumpyFan

Well-Known Member
Whether or not the water was legitimately from 20,000 Leagues, it's a nice gesture to the past.
I'm probably late to the party on this, but I just realized that another neat nod to the former attraction is in the naming of this one. They didn't just use the same name as the one in DCA, they re-named it using part of the old attraction's name (20,000 Leagues) "Under The Sea - Journey of the Little Mermaid".
 

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