20K Water poured into Little Mermaid

[Rider]

Don't know if this was just for the Halloween party last night, but the queue music at Under the Sea featured an instrumental version of "Whale of a Tale".

 

[pumpkin7]

that was nice.
i REALLY wish i was alive to been able to witness "20K"
though seeing the lagoon with no company, and just the subs
sitting in the water creeps me out, and just looks eerie to me.

Well, check out this website that details really well it's demoltion. It shows pictures of when they were draining the lagoon, and taking out all the props and what not. Creepy but interesting.

http://www.20kride.com/photos_after.html

And I don't believe that's real 20k water. Come on, I know there isn't much of it but it was pure, clean, and who on earth would have thought 'I know, I'll save some of this water to be put in a future attraction?'
Nah sorry, pics or it didn't happen.

 

[ExtinctJenn]

Well, check out this website that details really well it's demoltion. It shows pictures of when they were draining the lagoon, and taking out all the props and what not. Creepy but interesting.

http://www.20kride.com/photos_after.html

First time I visited that site and found those pictures I was literally in tears.

 

[pumpkin7]

First time I visited that site and found those pictures I was literally in tears.

I know, it makes for sorry viewing.

I never got to ride it but it looked awesome. The lagoon was stunning, and I bet it was even more stunning from inside one of those subs!

Oh, and I thought it was pretty neat that Disney wants to acknowledge their past, and give something back for the fans. It's like a little nod that says 'we haven't forgotten you', which is really nice of them. Even if they did get the wrong type of people to do it, at least they did it.
Fair play Disney.

 

[lazyboy97o]

While it's true that this was not a publicly accessible area it was part of the attraction space since it was the ride vehicle maintenance area and attraction support area. As with any E-Ticket attraction larger amounts of space are usually needed to add/remove and maintain vehicles when compared to smaller more simplistic rides. So yes converting E-Ticket attractions to D/C attractions does indeed create more public accessible space to be used for shops/restaurants etc. This formula could be used pretty much anywhere, take out a big attraction replace with a couple of smaller ones, shops, and restaurants. Then hype it up as a New Land, Big expansion, etc. and increase profits.

The maintenance area was north of the trees parallel to the road and did not extend as far west.

 

[WED Purist]

Don't know if this was just for the Halloween party last night, but the queue music at Under the Sea featured an instrumental version of "Whale of a Tale".

Nope, it's there all the time.

 

[sweetpee_1993]

This is a very cool and completely unnecessary (and certainly unexpected) thing that Disney did to acknowledge their past.

The fact that people are somehow finding a way to complain about it further proves the point that people here will about any little thing. No wonder Disney seems to care less about the forums community. It really is sad.

Find a new shtick, guys. Broken Yetis and lack of E-tickets are fine and worthy of our gripes. Complaining about pretty cool symbolic ceremonies is not. You can only play a broken record so much before people tune it out or start to get annoyed by it.

I'll speak for myself on this one. Do I about broken effects, crappy up-keep, and overall lack of interest by TDO to create and maintain anything of true substance, quality, and creativity? ((Not talking about the FLE specifically as I've not seen it in person yet.)) Absolutely. But I'll go a step beyond that. As irritating as that little mini-list is there's actually something that trumps it for me. On some level I feel insulted by their willingness to believe that I'm going to be wow'ed by things that are so transparent and shallow. Seriously. I love the idea of this water ceremony thing but then they had to cheapen it by having mommy-bloggers do the pouring. Really? Can't we have something special without having you push your little social-media games up in the middle of it? That insults me. I'm not stupid, fellas. If you're going to do something meaningful then freakin' do it. It doesn't take a sentimental sap to realize that pouring of "ceremonial" water would be vastly more meaningful if you have someone who is historically tied to the location or even the water in the past, present, or future be the person performing the ceremony. But no, it's about the marketing machine. The pencil pushers with their bean counters...it interrupts the specialness of it all when they throw the marketing bits into what should otherwise be sentimental. It's these bits that are so out in left field that you step back and think, "Do they really think that's okay or that I'm that blinded by the pixie dust that I won't catch that?" It's insulting to me. If that makes me wrong or like a broken record, well, I'll just be a wrong broken record. I can't accept such. And I've never been one to pretend to be who I'm not. That's how I feel.

 

[sweetpee_1993]

DSCF1212 by Brian_WDW74, on Flickr

Now THAT is a cool tribute! I like that the placement was partially in the water, too.

unless your a huge Disney fan, most of the general public doesn't know what An imagineer is anymore, And I do think they deserve more recognition than they get.

I dunno. Anytime I see a ceremony for anything I'm interested in the details. I want to know who the people are. If I wasn't a Disney freak at all I'd see this video and say, "Oh! Who's the people pouring the water?" Aaaaand, I'd feel a disconnect in the choice of participants.

 

[sweetpee_1993]

First time I visited that site and found those pictures I was literally in tears.

I was in tears last month when we were snorkeling and I filmed this in Castaway Cay:



You can hear me vocalize a few times into my snorkel without even thinking. When I saw certain things on the Nautilus it wasn't what was there that I was seeing, I was seeing it the way I remembered from the last time I was that close one of these "subs". It was so unexpectedly emotional for me! At the part where I touched it I did have tears. It was weird. I never would've thought I'd have any reaction let alone the emotional one that I did. LOL! It's not like 20k was my favorite attraction when I was a kid or anything. Mostly we passed it up because even a short line length was a long wait and we knew that. I guess it was just the overall connection to something in the MK from a totally different time both for the park and for me. Just strange!

 

[flynnibus]

I was in tears last month when we were snorkeling and I filmed this in Castaway Cay:



You can hear me vocalize a few times into my snorkel without even thinking.

Wow, it's still there? I must have missed it! Where is it in the lagoon?

 

[Uncle Lupe]

I'll speak for myself on this one. Do I about broken effects, crappy up-keep, and overall lack of interest by TDO to create and maintain anything of true substance, quality, and creativity? ((Not talking about the FLE specifically as I've not seen it in person yet.)) Absolutely. But I'll go a step beyond that. As irritating as that little mini-list is there's actually something that trumps it for me. On some level I feel insulted by their willingness to believe that I'm going to be wow'ed by things that are so transparent and shallow. Seriously. I love the idea of this water ceremony thing but then they had to cheapen it by having mommy-bloggers do the pouring. Really? Can't we have something special without having you push your little social-media games up in the middle of it? That insults me. I'm not stupid, fellas. If you're going to do something meaningful then freakin' do it. It doesn't take a sentimental sap to realize that pouring of "ceremonial" water would be vastly more meaningful if you have someone who is historically tied to the location or even the water in the past, present, or future be the person performing the ceremony. But no, it's about the marketing machine. The pencil pushers with their bean counters...it interrupts the specialness of it all when they throw the marketing bits into what should otherwise be sentimental. It's these bits that are so out in left field that you step back and think, "Do they really think that's okay or that I'm that blinded by the pixie dust that I won't catch that?" It's insulting to me. If that makes me wrong or like a broken record, well, I'll just be a wrong broken record. I can't accept such. And I've never been one to pretend to be who I'm not. That's how I feel.

WOW!!

I think you need a Snickers break.

 

[sweetpee_1993]

Wow, it's still there? I must have missed it! Where is it in the lagoon?

It is! Thank goodness my old man is here to work this computer thing-a-ma-blob! Here's a map so you can kinda see where it is in the lagoon. It's circled for ya in red:

 

[sweetpee_1993]

WOW!!

I think you need a Snickers break.

Now that you mention it, I haven't eaten since lunch and it's past 7. Perhaps....

 

[AEfx]

DSCF1212 by Brian_WDW74, on Flickr

Now that is awesome.

 

[The Empress Lilly]

I'll speak for myself on this one. Do I about broken effects, crappy up-keep, and overall lack of interest by TDO to create and maintain anything of true substance, quality, and creativity? ((Not talking about the FLE specifically as I've not seen it in person yet.)) Absolutely. But I'll go a step beyond that. As irritating as that little mini-list is there's actually something that trumps it for me. On some level I feel insulted by their willingness to believe that I'm going to be wow'ed by things that are so transparent and shallow. Seriously. I love the idea of this water ceremony thing but then they had to cheapen it by having mommy-bloggers do the pouring. Really? Can't we have something special without having you push your little social-media games up in the middle of it? That insults me. I'm not stupid, fellas. If you're going to do something meaningful then freakin' do it. It doesn't take a sentimental sap to realize that pouring of "ceremonial" water would be vastly more meaningful if you have someone who is historically tied to the location or even the water in the past, present, or future be the person performing the ceremony. But no, it's about the marketing machine. The pencil pushers with their bean counters...it interrupts the specialness of it all when they throw the marketing bits into what should otherwise be sentimental. It's these bits that are so out in left field that you step back and think, "Do they really think that's okay or that I'm that blinded by the pixie dust that I won't catch that?" It's insulting to me. If that makes me wrong or like a broken record, well, I'll just be a wrong broken record. I can't accept such. And I've never been one to pretend to be who I'm not. That's how I feel.

That just totally made my day!

Rant of the year and so spot on!

*high fives*

 

[The Empress Lilly]

I'm probably late to the party on this, but I just realized that another neat nod to the former attraction is in the naming of this one. They didn't just use the same name as the one in DCA, they re-named it using part of the old attraction's name (20,000 Leagues) "Under The Sea - Journey of the Little Mermaid".

Wait...what? Wow, that is awesome! That had never even dawned on me until you said it just now.

 

[unkadug]

While it's true that this was not a publicly accessible area it was part of the attraction space since it was the ride vehicle maintenance area and attraction support area. As with any E-Ticket attraction larger amounts of space are usually needed to add/remove and maintain vehicles when compared to smaller more simplistic rides. So yes converting E-Ticket attractions to D/C attractions does indeed create more public accessible space to be used for shops/restaurants etc. This formula could be used pretty much anywhere, take out a big attraction replace with a couple of smaller ones, shops, and restaurants. Then hype it up as a New Land, Big expansion, etc. and increase profits.

See..you are still not paying attention. There is space that was NEVER used for anything in this expansion except for some privileged parking and woodland to the west of 20K.

If you can't comprehend this after photos and overhead views, then so be it.

The land that is now the BOG and the Enchanted Tales with Belle attraction was never used as anything but unused backstage area woodland and a few parking spaces. There WAS a small area outside of the 20K attraction that was used as dry dock, but most of the support area for 20K was inside it's building.

The lagoon was a great visual, but certainly didn't help with capacity of the area.

 

[s8film40]

See..you are still not paying attention. There is space that was NEVER used for anything in this expansion except for some privileged parking and woodland to the west of 20K.

If you can't comprehend this after photos and overhead views, then so be it.

The land that is now the BOG and the Enchanted Tales with Belle attraction was never used as anything but unused backstage area woodland and a few parking spaces. There WAS a small area outside of the 20K attraction that was used as dry dock, but most of the support area for 20K was inside it's building.

The lagoon was a great visual, but certainly didn't help with capacity of the area.

I looked at the overhead photo. The trees you speak of are a part of the attraction as they are meant to block the view of the backstage areas when viewing the lagoon. While I'm sure that some of the parking was used for purposes other than 20k, it probably was necessary to use when taking subs in/out of the dry dock area. In any case my point was they didn't add any additional space to the park they may have converted backstage and scenery space into restaurant and shop space but nothing was truly added.

 

[WED Purist]

Not that it will make much difference to half of the posters in here, but the water did come from 20K. The person who collected it is a long time Imagineer, and big Disney fan.

 

[flynnibus]

I looked at the overhead photo. The trees you speak of are a part of the attraction as they are meant to block the view of the backstage areas when viewing the lagoon.

We now count berm and buffers as part of the attractions?

Anyway you look at it... the area before wasn't all Fantasyland, and now is. Toontown is no longer a separate land.. it's all FL now. So 'FL Expansion' is undeniable. As for expansion of the theme park - it is expanded the park's onstage areas from what it was prior.. and has been.. for almost a decade. Prior to that when 20k was part of the park, not all of that was guest areas either. This is a stupid complaint brought up by people who need something to cling onto as something to hate about the FL project. It's the Disney equivalent of the birther movement.