20,000 Demolition Coming, So What's Next? (New)

cloudboy

Well-Known Member
I don't think it was "Based" on any actual movie. Few of the original rides outside FantasyLand were. They were just imaginative rides and places. They wrote various films around the different lands back with the World of Disney TV show. But a jungle cruise down an african river was a pretty generic thing back 30 years ago.
 

Fievel

RunDisney Addict
Originally posted by Bill
I was suspended for using more then one username to vote. I didn't lie Mr. Fievel.

As for Harry Potter... don't seal your own coffin, k? There is a Harry Potter Attraction in planning somewhere. I heard it with my own ears. You don't hear imagineers talking on cell phones about Harry Potter Ride storyboards everyday.

It also seems that you don't think "Jon" is real... he's as real as Corrus or yourself.

I don't take it lightly what you say to me. I know we have had our differences in the past, but I had hoped we were beyond that.

And my source hasn't been proven right on ANYTHING, or for that matter, proven wrong. So I suggest you stop the bashing. There's no need for it until, and only if my source is indeed wrong.

I don't come here to argue. I come here to give rumors and news that I hear from my sources. I never said it's 100% going to happen. It's a rumor. Understand that and you'll be fine. And if you don't like my posts, use the handy dandy ignore feature this forum has. It's very nice. :)

I never said Jon wasn't real. I merely said he's not everything he claims to be.

Lee says this is a "no". I'll believe him. He's proven himself.

See Bill, what you need to learn is that respect is earned...especially when you've been booted from here once...you haven't earned that from very many people here....or at least the people who truly have their finger on the pulse of WDW.
 
Originally posted by Bill
No, it really is based on the African Queen. Ask Dave Smith. ;)

I don't think anyone besides you really cares. The amount of people that know this are very limited, so most people have no idea the ride was INSPIRED by a movie, so the effect isn't the same, just like many people don't know splash mountain is based on song of the south. There is no getting around harry potter. Building a ride would be a blatent use of it's popularity. And yes, DL has star tour and indiana jones in their magic kingdom, so keep that kinda thing on the west coast. Put potter in MGM
 

MKBurn15

New Member
Originally posted by martinthesparta
I don't think anyone besides you really cares. The amount of people that know this are very limited, so most people have no idea the ride was INSPIRED by a movie, so the effect isn't the same, just like many people don't know splash mountain is based on song of the south. There is no getting around harry potter. Building a ride would be a blatent use of it's popularity. And yes, DL has star tour and indiana jones in their magic kingdom, so keep that kinda thing on the west coast. Put potter in MGM

I care! Was African Queen a Disney Real Life Adventure Film?:confused:

And Keep Potter Away!
 

General Grizz

New Member
The non-Disney African Queen was simply an inspiration. No story line. Just a unique trip through the jungle was inspired by the film.

The origins of Figment was a line from a British comedy show where a character blurted, "A figment has eaten my roses!"

Anyway . . .
 

SusanAnne

Active Member
No Harry Potter, it does not belong at Disney. When I think of Disney espically MK I think of Mickey, Donald just a place where everything is great, not where Harry Potter teaches witchcraft. It does not belong at MK
 

Bill

Account Suspended
Originally posted by SusanAnne
No Harry Potter, it does not belong at Disney. When I think of Disney espically MK I think of Mickey, Donald just a place where everything is great, not where Harry Potter teaches witchcraft. It does not belong at MK

If Harry doesn't belong, then Indy doesn't belong either. Disneyland is just too close in design to the MK to say that one can have and one can't. Its gotta work both ways!
 
Originally posted by Bill
If Harry doesn't belong, then Indy doesn't belong either. Disneyland is just too close in design to the MK to say that one can have and one can't. Its gotta work both ways!

Why does it have to work both ways. I don't really see your logic. Who gives a rats behind if the design is close. That has no relevence in any of this discusions. Besides, the parks are simular in design, but definetly not the resorts. And who says that star tours and indy really belong in disneyland. The difference is that WDW resort is much larger and the options are equally as large. So in you're infinite wisdom, please tell me where these attractions would have gone otherwise. And if you would say just don't include them, explain that to the DL fans and regulars and see the responce. It's not there fault that they only had their MK for the majority of the time and were already deprived of many great attractions. Besides, I know you're not trying to compare indiana jones and star wars with harry potter. Apples and oranges my friend. And if the jungle cruise was called the african queen jungle cruise I would probally have a problem, but it's not so drop it because it was a weak arguement to begin with. Also, if there are this many people against it, people who are in love with the disney parks and are the resorts' best customers, then it can't be anything but a bad thing no matter what reason people have for disliking the idea.
 

Bill

Account Suspended
You'd be suprised how many people hate Winnie the Pooh...

;)

Espically when he killed Toad...

And Stitch when he killed SIR...

And Space when it killed Horizons...

And Test Track... well, I know there's one person here other then me that dislikes Test Track. ;)

My arguments aren't week. They are very inline. And I think you can not only compare Potter to Indy, you can EASILY compare the two. They are just different themes. If the HP ride was to go in the MK, you can bet that Rowling would only let the ride be the best in the park. She'd accept nothing else. She's more picky then Lucas sometimes. Plus, WB would want it to be the best as well. Disney can do what they want with their own rides, but when they do things for other companies, they are ALWAYS the best that WDI can do. Look at OLC. lol. And the Lucas rides. And Muppet Vision! And Tower of Terror! It's really amazing when you look at the connections with outside companies.
 
Originally posted by Bill
You'd be suprised how many people hate Winnie the Pooh...

;)

Espically when he killed Toad...

And Stitch when he killed SIR...

And Space when it killed Horizons...

And Test Track... well, I know there's one person here other then me that dislikes Test Track. ;)

My arguments aren't week. They are very inline. And I think you can not only compare Potter to Indy, you can EASILY compare the two. They are just different themes. If the HP ride was to go in the MK, you can bet that Rowling would only let the ride be the best in the park. She'd accept nothing else. She's more picky then Lucas sometimes. Plus, WB would want it to be the best as well. Disney can do what they want with their own rides, but when they do things for other companies, they are ALWAYS the best that WDI can do. Look at OLC. lol. And the Lucas rides. And Muppet Vision! And Tower of Terror! It's really amazing when you look at the connections with outside companies.

Actually I wouldn't be suprized that people hated winnie the pooh because I have heard just that. I'm not sure what your point is with all that. Are you saying that all of those turned out to be good decissions even though people hated the idea initially or that you think those were all poor desicions and that the company should continue to make poor desicions. Again, makes no sense unless you want people to hate you or are arguing against yourself. I'm not even sure you know what you mean. And YES, your arguements are weAk even when they make sense(in matter that I understand what you are saying and not in the sense that it is a strong point). You're trying to dig out of the center of the earth with a chop stick. And NO, you cannot compare indiana jones and harry potter at all. It's like comparing Return of the dragon with power rangers the movie or gone with the wind with titanic. And who care if it would be a good ride, it wouldn't fit. Put it in mgm. Why don't you argue against me instead of around me. I know I know...you already are lol. I don't know what OLC is, but look at the other attractions you mentioned. All in MGM. Isn't that convienient. And DL is in califonian, we are talking florida here where you can put that kinda attraction elsewhere besides the magic kingdom. If you want to continue to argue, I can continue to make you look foolish, not that you need help lol. And if wdi can screw up with their own stuff they can screw up with other peoples stuff unless you are implying that they are purposely making their own stuff cruddy. Besides, are you telling me that star tours and indiana jones have no room for improvement? I beg to differ. Their both good attractions, don't get me wrong, but not he best they could be by any sttretch. I went on indy once and had no desire to ride it again, and are you trting to tell me that with the vastness of the star wars universe, a cheesy simulator with ______ wee herman as the pilot is the best they could do. The best thing about ST is the queue.
 

The_CEO

Well-Known Member
Originally posted by Bill
I heard it with my own ears. You don't hear imagineers talking on cell phones about Harry Potter Ride storyboards everyday.


How did you even know he was a disney imagineer? What if he worked for a movie studio for the next Harry movie? So lets see.. An imagineer was walking through the Magic Kingdom. You decided to stand that close to him that you could hear his conversation? Talk about spying. I find it hard to belive in the first place that an imagineer was spilling out his ideas infront of you. Harry Potter doesn't fit in any land at MK nor WDW. Ever since you heard this from the , imagineer.. You have been on these boards repeating the same discussions.
 

ToTBellHop

Well-Known Member
Originally posted by The_CEO
How did you even know he was a disney imagineer? What if he worked for a movie studio for the next Harry movie? So lets see.. An imagineer was walking through the Magic Kingdom. You decided to stand that close to him that you could hear his conversation? Talk about spying. I find it hard to belive in the first place that an imagineer was spilling out his ideas infront of you. Harry Potter doesn't fit in any land at MK nor WDW. Ever since you heard this from the , imagineer.. You have been on these boards repeating the same discussions.

Yes, and even if we give Bill the benefit of the doubt, and say it was an Imagineer, do we have any idea how many projects WDI comes up with that do not get built? A vast majority of their ideas.
 

Bill

Account Suspended
Very true. But I've heard more recent rumors that say it was green lighted...

But who knows anymore. It just seems odd that all this stuff is coming out about Disney and HP...
 

Bill

Account Suspended
Originally posted by martinthesparta
Actually I wouldn't be suprized that people hated winnie the pooh because I have heard just that. I'm not sure what your point is with all that. Are you saying that all of those turned out to be good decissions even though people hated the idea initially or that you think those were all poor desicions and that the company should continue to make poor desicions. Again, makes no sense unless you want people to hate you or are arguing against yourself. I'm not even sure you know what you mean. And YES, your arguements are weAk even when they make sense(in matter that I understand what you are saying and not in the sense that it is a strong point). You're trying to dig out of the center of the earth with a chop stick. And NO, you cannot compare indiana jones and harry potter at all. It's like comparing Return of the dragon with power rangers the movie or gone with the wind with titanic. And who care if it would be a good ride, it wouldn't fit. Put it in mgm. Why don't you argue against me instead of around me. I know I know...you already are lol. I don't know what OLC is, but look at the other attractions you mentioned. All in MGM. Isn't that convienient. And DL is in califonian, we are talking florida here where you can put that kinda attraction elsewhere besides the magic kingdom. If you want to continue to argue, I can continue to make you look foolish, not that you need help lol. And if wdi can screw up with their own stuff they can screw up with other peoples stuff unless you are implying that they are purposely making their own stuff cruddy. Besides, are you telling me that star tours and indiana jones have no room for improvement? I beg to differ. Their both good attractions, don't get me wrong, but not he best they could be by any sttretch. I went on indy once and had no desire to ride it again, and are you trting to tell me that with the vastness of the star wars universe, a cheesy simulator with ______ wee herman as the pilot is the best they could do. The best thing about ST is the queue.

It seems what we have here is a disagreement in opinion, nothing more. I believe that Indy and Star Tours are two of Disney's best rides, as is pretty much everything in Tokyo Disney Sea. The point I'm making is that right now Disney is doing better with given budgets from others (Like the OLC and Lucas) then on their own. (Dino Rama, Walt Disney Studios Paris)

The budget for Harry Potter would be huge... and I don't know about you, but I'd rather have a Big budgeted Harry Potter ride then another Dino-Rama. Hopefully, Everest won't let us down, partly because of the rumored Nextel sponsorship.
 
Originally posted by Bill
It seems what we have here is a disagreement in opinion, nothing more. I believe that Indy and Star Tours are two of Disney's best rides, as is pretty much everything in Tokyo Disney Sea. The point I'm making is that right now Disney is doing better with given budgets from others (Like the OLC and Lucas) then on their own. (Dino Rama, Walt Disney Studios Paris)

The budget for Harry Potter would be huge... and I don't know about you, but I'd rather have a Big budgeted Harry Potter ride then another Dino-Rama. Hopefully, Everest won't let us down, partly because of the rumored Nextel sponsorship.

You might have well just said "I bow to your greatness oh mighty arguer." I had an uncle who lived with us for ten years who was never wrong, so I have practice. After all the back and forth, your new point makes sense. I agree that with the space provided in MK I want some quality attractions, and an outside source is an easy way to guarentee that, but I refuse to tap out to the stupidity of the disney corp managment (eisner) who insists on making budget cuts om all major projects to ensure their failure while giving himself a raise. Regardless of that, I still believe in the magic of disney and will not submit to corporate corruption. That being said, put potter in MGM. Let it be great their, or heck, put it in paris first. Maybe that would boost attendance.
 

ddank

New Member
how the heck could the ride be in MGM if Disney supposedly has the rights to the BOOK and not the MOVIE. Seems simple to me why it would go in the MK.
 

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