communicorn96
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I'm sure many monocles would fall into dole whips as the artists faint and gasps since i'm the first person to ever comment its always been profit driven.
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DAK “Zootopia” is being created for the Tree of Life theater
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Gusey
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This is the opening scene of Zootopia. In it, that Zootopia is set in a parallel world without humans, where animals have evolved to become sentient and created a society. We know the 3D show going to Animal Kingdom is focusing on biomes. If the shows follows the angle of teaching us about animals and different biomes through the lens of "how they used to be" (AKA real animals), it should be a fine compromise to get Zootopia into AK
lentesta
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DCA TOT was 4.35 all-time across all age groups when it closed in 2017.
My sense with the switch to GotG is that Disney was also trying to untangle its IP from CBS' Twilight Zone. So they got a more popular attraction with less outside IP.
Wrong on all three. Although the second point is more of a wash, both are atrociously bad. Avatar’s theme actually fits the park, as odd as that may be for me today.
Purduevian
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I think any film that involves animals CAN fit into AK if the storyline and theme of the ride fit in AK. If the Encanto ride is either about Antonio introducing us to various animals or if the Madrigals are trying to help nature or find or respect a columbian animal or something, the ride will fit. I assume we will get a book style report ride with the songs, with a slightly enhanced presence for Antonio... which while I'm sure will be a great ride, won't fit in AK.
Indy on the other hand I feel like will be a very similar concept to EE where we learn to respect a mythical creature.
IF Zootopia was focused outside the city and the different "animals" took us to where they grew up and showed us the natural environment they grew up in... it could work. If they built a Zootopia ride, I don't think it would vist the Hopps Family Farm, but this show might.
The emperor's new groove soundtrack actually has 12 songs... it was just all cut when the movie was no longer a musical https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Emperor's_New_Groove_(soundtrack)
Thanks Len, so the GOTG:MB ride ranks higher than the TOT ride at DCA. I'll call that a win for Joe Rohde
Disgruntled Walt
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Don't twist yourself into knots trying to make it work. I like the execution of Pandora's landscape, but that doesn't make it fit the park. They should have put Pandora in DHS, if they were going to put it anywhere.
lazyboy97o
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The cowards should put The Sweatbox on Disney+.
I'm not. I just happen to agree with Rohde's statements around it.
Disgruntled Walt
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Rohde said all of that with Iger's pistol in his back.
Agent H
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I’m trying to distinguish between emperors new groove and kingdom of the sun.
UNCgolf
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Calling it profit driven is very different than what you originally implied, though.
Of course they always existed to make money; there was never any intention to lose money running the parks.
The way the parks are run now (and have been run for the past 20 or so years) is very, very different than the way they were run for the first 40-50 years of operation, though. They still exist to make money, but the methods have changed dramatically.
They didn't exist solely to sell Disney media/merchandise (e.g., they actually ran shops that lost money for theming reasons; that would never happen now) -- it was just one element of many, and not even the main one. The parks were intended to be great experiences in and of themselves without needing guests to have any connection to Disney media.
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Cmdr_Crimson
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Kingdom of the sun's plot was a Prince and the Pauper story with Owen Lighting McQueen Wilson as Pacha instead of John Goodman and David Spade still as Kuzco..
Agent H
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I know. we were discussing the idea of a show repurposing parts of the plot of kingdom of the sun for the Nemo theater.
Cmdr_Crimson
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After reading said plot and seeing The Sweatbox which is a very interesting film I'm glad Mark Dindal came in to fix it to the best abilities and make it what it is..
James Alucobond
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Funnily enough, I agree with this on essentially everything EXCEPT Zootopia. It seems counterintuitive because, looking superficially at things, Zootopia seems to have the most to do with animals, but of the IP listed, it actually leaves the least room for real animal stories. It’s certainly accurate to say that animals are not core to IJ or Encanto, but the characters at least can and do interface with animals and/or cryptozoological creatures that behave in animalian fashion. Even if you went to the outskirts of the Zootopia world as you suggest, the characters still act like humans, just rural ones. Anything “animal” is essentially reduced to a quirk. Oh, this character is slow, that one has poor eyesight, that one sleeps underground, etc. Again, they can kind of work as commentators within our world, but unlike IJ and Encanto, which mostly share “our” world with some supernatural touches, the world of Zootopia is completely divorced from the topics and issues AK tackles.
Chester&Hester Enthusiast
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Even further, Groove was originally meant to be a musical. There are actually a few original songs on the OST that are leftover from when the film was retooled into a buddy comedy during development.
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lazyboy97o
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That’s not part of the movie. The city isn’t some weird unique place, it’s just a big city. The Hopps family lives on a farm in a rural area that even has high speed train service, not a natural environment.
Chester&Hester Enthusiast
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It's insane to me how obvious and basic this is, and yet so many people are just like, "ZoOToPia hAVe aniMALS MeaNS GooD in DaK!!1!"
I truly don't get it.
Agent H
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While I don’t think Zootopia fits in animal kingdom I do think it’s a very interesting environment that has screamed theme park land to me since 2016. if anything I wish they would expand the Shanghai area with more of the different districts.
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Chester&Hester Enthusiast
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As Beastly was never fully realized we don't know what it would have entailed. So it seemingly could have included the fantastical idea of sentient animals that walk and talk like humans do.
But again playing devil advocate here, humans are animals too.
The plans were completely finalized and have been (mostly) available to the public for many many years, what do you mean?