There’s that word again. Shill. It’s such an illogical response to someone liking something you don’t.To think many people some of them on these very boards put their reps on line saying how good this ride was gonna be and how surprised we would be and how it will be a good satisfactory replacement and all the money Disney was dumping into it…. What a crock of cr@p that was. Talk about shilling and if they did add money to the initial budget imagine how much worse this would have been ….
I have no problem with others liking different things but under no circumstance can anyone logically say this was a fair replacement to its original and was done well…There’s that word again. Shill. It’s such an illogical response to someone liking something you don’t.
Eh it’s not flawless but there’s definitely sections I enjoy more than the equivalent on splash mountain.I have no problem with others liking different things but under no circumstance can anyone logically say this was a fair replacement to its original and was done well…
Like what? Lack of wait times compared to Splash?Eh it’s not flawless but there’s definitely sections I enjoy more than the equivalent on splash mountain.
I will gladly explain. 1. The queue. 2. The entire outside stretch. 3. The former laughing place. The new scene feels much more colorful and the water effect actually works! And 4. The finale. As for the lack of wait times. Ha ha I wish.Like what? Lack of wait times compared to Splash?. I have an open mind im curious what sections? Either way. Since when do we compare rides by “sections?
So what do you call the influencers and people on social media who received special access, swag, and comps for toeing the company line telling everyone how great this thing was going to be. What about the people that enriched their brand by hyping this thing up? What are they? Shills and Grifters seem like a good description.There’s that word again. Shill. It’s such an illogical response to someone liking something you don’t.
Oh yeah, this is soooooo much better than the Laughing Place....I will gladly explain. 1. The queue. 2. The entire outside stretch. 3. The former laughing place. The new scene feels much more colorful and the water effect actually works! And 4. The finale. As for the lack of wait times. Ha ha I wish.
So 1 & 2 are not part of the ride and anyone who uses LL miss it. I had VQ & the queue to me stunk granted we walked to the front…3 is based partly on the fact that Disney let the ride rot so you are comparing something new vs something purposely left to die. The finale was solid but to me the riverboat & music is tough to beatI will gladly explain. 1. The queue. 2. The entire outside stretch. 3. The former laughing place. The new scene feels much more colorful and the water effect actually works! And 4. The finale. As for the lack of wait times. Ha ha I wish.
I don’t know how many of them are actually “shills” I mean I’d be pretty happy with some of the stuff they get to see and do. But fine let’s say they are all shills. I wasn’t talking about them. I was talking about how anyone who says anything positive about this ride is quickly labeled a “shill” and written off as if there opinion doesn’t matter.So what do you call the influencers and people on social media who received special access, swag, and comps for toeing the company line telling everyone how great this thing was going to be. What about the people that enriched their brand by hyping this thing up? What are they? Shills and Grifters seem like a good description.
I don't think they were incompetent so much as they were not in the same league as the imagineers who brought Splash to life.Can we just admit that the team which created this attraction failed? They’re clearly incompetent.
Not following you on this. Unless I missed something, I'm pretty sure that most people here didn't enrich themselves or get free stuff from Disney by talking up TBA.I don’t know how many of them are actually “shills” I mean I’d be pretty happy with some of the stuff they get to see and do. But fine let’s say they are all shills. I wasn’t talking about them. I was talking about how anyone who says anything positive about this ride is quickly labeled a “shill” and written off as if there opinion doesn’t matter.
So remove my word of shill. Go ahead feel free. Everything else i say stands. You gave 2 things “better” that have zero to do with the ride itself that so many may never experience & then another all bc Disney let the ride rot…. That sounds like more than a stretch you must admitI don’t know how many of them are actually “shills” I mean I’d be pretty happy with some of the stuff they get to see and do. But fine let’s say they are all shills. I wasn’t talking about them. I was talking about how anyone who says anything positive about this ride is quickly labeled a “shill” and written off as if there opinion doesn’t matter.
Wait. I thought the great Tony Baxter had major input & say in this attraction?I don't think they were incompetent so much as they were not in the same league as the imagineers who brought Splash to life.
IF TBA were a completely new attraction not having to measure up to Splash, then I think most people would say it's pretty good. But it's wasn't, so it's not.
Now that certainly doesn't excuse all the technical failings, but I just think WDI held hostage by incompetent executives and management both at WDI and TWDC.
1. Alright fine we’ll stick to the ride proper. 2. The outside stretch is part of the ride. 3. Yes maintenance was poor and that is bad but even if everything worked on splash mountain I’d still say I prefer the new scene. 4. I will give you that. Which finale you prefer is mostly based on what type of music you like and what style of animatronics you prefer. You’re opinion is just as valid as mine here.So 1 & 2 are not part of the ride and anyone who uses LL miss it. I had VQ & the queue to me stunk granted we walked to the front…3 is based partly on the fact that Disney let the ride rot so you are comparing something new vs something purposely left to die. The finale was solid but to me the riverboat & music is tough to beat
“Not as good as Tony Baxter” is an unreasonably high bar, but even when working this attraction’s narrative and stated story beats were real head scratchers.I don't think they were incompetent so much as they were not in the same league as the imagineers who brought Splash to life.
If The Two Jakes was just a nice homage to film noir, people would say it was pretty good.IF TBA were a completely new attraction not having to measure up to Splash, then I think most people would say it's pretty good. But it's wasn't, so it's not.
The sophisticated tech of the AAs was not only the selling point, it is what much of the ride was riding on. When you remove so many “simple” AAs with the promise that the one you’re inserting will blow people away, it better work reliably!Now that certainly doesn't excuse all the technical failings, but I just think WDI held hostage by incompetent executives and management both at WDI and TWDC.
Yeah about that...looks like you didn't get the memo...Wait. I thought the great Tony Baxter had major input & say in this attraction?![]()
Exactly! Yet the word is still thrown around as if it actually applies to the majority of people who like the ride.Not following you on this. Unless I missed something, I'm pretty sure that most people here didn't enrich themselves or get free stuff from Disney by talking up TBA.
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