Disney’s Mufasa - the lion king

[DisneyWarrior27]

Before her return as Princess #Tiana in her upcoming followup to #ThePrincessAndTheFrog whether it’s a Disney+ series or turns into a film sequel, here’s Anika Noni Rose singing 1 of the new songs by Lin-Manuel Miranda from Disney’s #MufasaTheLionKing, in theaters December 20: .

This song is Milele, sung in the film by Mufasa’s biological mother.

This song is so soothingly strong that I’m utterly shocked Disney didn’t submit this in the songs of #MufasaTheLionKing they chose to submit for the awards circuit, which I feel is a disrespectful L of a choice towards Anika after all she’s done for The Walt Disney Company on Disney’s part that I hope they change course on ASAP.

I also hope Disney doesn’t further disrespect the legacy of the Disney Princess Tiana and all that Anika has brought to the character and that they further respect her moving forward by turning her Paperman-style animated Disney+ series #Tiana into a fully theatrical, fully 2D/hand-drawn animated film sequel to #ThePrincessAndTheFrog for a theatrical release on Thanksgiving Weekend 2029.

We’ll see…

 

[Farerb]

 

[wtyy21]

Mufasa's director Barry Jenkins seems to settle the debate whether this film and 2019 The Lion King is live-action or animation. According to him, this film along with 2019 TLK, is a animated film and with his statement, Inside Out 2 has yet to become the highest grossing animated film all-time until Labor Day Weekend in September (contrary to Disney claim). https://screenrant.com/mufasa-lion-king-movie-live-action-or-animated-barry-jenkins-response/

 

[MisterPenguin]

Mufasa's director Barry Jenkins seems to settle the debate whether this film and 2019 The Lion King is live-action or animation. According to him, this film along with 2019 TLK, is a animated film and with his statement, Inside Out 2 has yet to become the highest grossing animated film all-time until Labor Day Weekend in September (contrary to Disney claim). https://screenrant.com/mufasa-lion-king-movie-live-action-or-animated-barry-jenkins-response/

We'll see if Disney changes its tune.

 

[erasure fan1]

We'll see if Disney changes its tune.

I think they should, not that they care what I think. But there is nothing live action about either film. At least Dinosaur used real life environments with cg over the top. And if I remember it was not considered animation because of that. Heck, I would have classified it as animation just to have the top grossing animated film at nearly 1.7bil. That might never get beat.

 

[Farerb]

 

[Disney Irish]

In reality does it matter if its classified as "live-action" or "animation". Someone is going to be upset either way, because its not seen as real animation by some and its not seen as real live-action by others, so Disney should classify it however they want since they are damned if they do and damned if they don't.

 

[erasure fan1]

In reality does it matter if its classified as "live-action" or "animation". Someone is going to be upset either way, because its not seen as real animation by some and its not seen as real live-action by others, so Disney should classify it however they want since they are damned if they do and damned if they don't.

No it really doesn't. At least if they classify it as animation, they have a monster record for highest grossing animated film. Plus, as far as I can tell, the don't actually classify it in any category. As far as I have seen, more think it's animation than live action. So instead of being damned by both sides, only the minority side has an issue.

My question would be, why would anyone think it's not animation? It's a different style sure, but it's no less animation than frozen or toy story.

 

[Disney Irish]

No it really doesn't. At least if they classify it as animation, they have a monster record for highest grossing animated film. Plus, as far as I can tell, the don't actually classify it in any category. As far as I have seen, more think it's animation than live action. So instead of being damned by both sides, only the minority side has an issue.

My question would be, why would anyone think it's not animation? It's a different style sure, but it's no less animation than frozen or toy story.

Except IO2 already surpassed that so it doesn't really matter in that regard either. This is why this whole conversation on its classification, especially now, is meaningless.

The biggest issue I've seen is that some purists don't want to classify it as animation because they feel it takes away from the art form, which I think is BS.

So to me who cares what its classified as at this point, call it animated, live-action, or some other category, it made a whole truck load of money for Disney, that is all that matters at the end of the day. So if it makes some people feel better to not call it animation, so be it.

 

[erasure fan1]

Except IO2 already surpassed that so it doesn't really matter in that regard either. This is why this whole conversation on its classification, especially now, is meaningless.

Lol, I didn't realize it passed it. Just barely, but it did. I will say neither deserves it but oh well.

The biggest issue I've seen is that some purists don't want to classify it as animation because they feel it takes away from the art form, which I think is BS.

To that I would say then no cg animation should be animation. I'm not saying you think it's not animation. It's like saying a photorealistic painter isn't an artist but Picasso is? It just makes little sense to me.

So to me who cares what its classified as at this point, call it animated, live-action, or some other category, it made a whole truck load of money for Disney, that is all that matters at the end of the day. So if it makes some people feel better to not call it animation, so be it.

Great, in that case we can all agree to classify it as crap.

 

[Disney Irish]

Lol, I didn't realize it passed it. Just barely, but it did. I will say neither deserves it but oh well.

Yep it did, $36M more to be exact. So whether its TLK or IO2 Disney has the title on either front, so again doesn't really matter.

To that I would say then no cg animation should be animation. I'm not saying you think it's not animation. It's like saying a photorealistic painter isn't an artist but Picasso is? It just makes little sense to me.

I agree, which is why this whole thing is silly.

Great, in that case we can all agree to classify as crap.

Well don't know if I agree with that. But I appreciate your opinion.

 

[LittleBuford]

My question would be, why would anyone think it's not animation? It's a different style sure, but it's no less animation than frozen or toy story.

I don’t really think of it as animation. For me, animation is as much an aesthetic as it is a technique. And Mufasa strives to look like-action.

 

[erasure fan1]

I don’t really think of it as animation. For me, animation is as much an aesthetic as it is a technique. And Mufasa strives to look like-action.

For me, aesthetic really means very little. I feel stop motion to CG to 2d hand drawn to photo realism equal. If it's all made with one or any combination of techniques, it's an animated film in my book. And really, I think it's much harder and takes more skill to make photo realistic animals and have them move and feel natural.

Well don't know if I agree with that. But I appreciate your opinion.

Lion king is still my favorite animated movie of all time. I've just never been so disappointed in a film. It's no secret I don't like the remakes. But this was way below even my low expectations. When you are remaking something as great as the Disney Renaissance films, I judge them against the original.

To bring it back to Mufasa, I was burned with lion king so I won't see it on the theater. But I will watch when it comes to D+. I hope it's not just a animation show piece. Because I think this is the direction they should go with these remakes. Tell new stories in these universes.

 

[MisterPenguin]

I don’t really think of it as animation. For me, animation is as much an aesthetic as it is a technique. And Mufasa strives to look like-action.

How would you characterize the ultra-realisting paintings of the Renaissance?

 

[LittleBuford]

How would you characterize the ultra-realisting paintings of the Renaissance?

They're really not that realistic if you look at them properly.

 

[MisterPenguin]

They're really not that realistic if you look at them properly.

The animal characters in the CGI films aren't that realistic when delivering lines.

 

[DCBaker]

D23 will be hosting advanced screenings of Mufasa: The Lion King for Gold Members on December 16.

Complimentary tickets go on sale on December 5 at 10am PT / 1pm ET.

Listed below are the cities the screening will be in, each linked to the page where tickets will be available.

• Los Angeles, CA
• Orlando, FL
• New York, NY
• Chicago, IL
• Dallas, TX
• Washington, DC
• Boston, MA
• Atlanta, GA
• Denver, CO
• Portland, OR
• Las Vegas, NV
• St. Louis, MO
• Miami, FL

Full details at the link below:

D23 Gold Member Advance Screenings - Mufasa: The Lion King - D23

Get ready, D23 Gold Members, to feel the rhythm of the Pride Lands with an exclusive advance screening of Mufasa: The Lion King!

d23.com

 

[LittleBuford]

The animal characters in the CGI films aren't that realistic when delivering lines.

The CGI animals in Wicked are likewise very fake-looking. I still wouldn’t think of them as animated, even if they technically are. I’m not interested in changing your perception; I’m merely sharing my own perspective.

 

[Disney Irish]

The CGI animals in Wicked are likewise very fake-looking. I still wouldn’t think of them as animated, even if they technically are. I’m not interested in changing your perception; I’m merely sharing my own perspective.

So just curious, why the distinction? If you acknowledge they're animated why can you not accept them as animated? Do you consider any Pixar film animated even though they are CG?

 

[LittleBuford]

So just curious, why the distinction? If you acknowledge they're animated why can you not accept them as animated? Do you consider any Pixar film animated even though they are CG?

If you're talking about the animals in Wicked, because they feature in a live-action film and are designed to look live-action. You'd be hardpressed to find anyone who would discuss them as animated characters, even if they technically are that.

I acknowledge that Mufasa is different in that it is entirely CG even if it strives to look live-action. Whether it's technically animated or not matters much less to me, personally, than the way it looks. I realise others disagree.

I'm somewhat surprised you're asking about Pixar. The distinction I've been drawing (!) is an aesthetic one, and since Pixar films emphatically don't try to look photo-realistic, I perceive them immediately as what they are: animated.