Disney’s Mufasa - the lion king

DisneyWarrior27

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Before her return as Princess #Tiana in her upcoming followup to #ThePrincessAndTheFrog whether it’s a Disney+ series or turns into a film sequel, here’s Anika Noni Rose singing 1 of the new songs by Lin-Manuel Miranda from Disney’s #MufasaTheLionKing, in theaters December 20: .

This song is Milele, sung in the film by Mufasa’s biological mother.

This song is so soothingly strong that I’m utterly shocked Disney didn’t submit this in the songs of #MufasaTheLionKing they chose to submit for the awards circuit, which I feel is a disrespectful L of a choice towards Anika after all she’s done for The Walt Disney Company on Disney’s part that I hope they change course on ASAP.

I also hope Disney doesn’t further disrespect the legacy of the Disney Princess Tiana and all that Anika has brought to the character and that they further respect her moving forward by turning her Paperman-style animated Disney+ series #Tiana into a fully theatrical, fully 2D/hand-drawn animated film sequel to #ThePrincessAndTheFrog for a theatrical release on Thanksgiving Weekend 2029.

We’ll see…
 
wtyy21

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MisterPenguin

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wtyy21 said:
Mufasa's director Barry Jenkins seems to settle the debate whether this film and 2019 The Lion King is live-action or animation. According to him, this film along with 2019 TLK, is a animated film and with his statement, Inside Out 2 has yet to become the highest grossing animated film all-time until Labor Day Weekend in September (contrary to Disney claim). https://screenrant.com/mufasa-lion-king-movie-live-action-or-animated-barry-jenkins-response/
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We'll see if Disney changes its tune.
 
erasure fan1

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MisterPenguin said:
We'll see if Disney changes its tune.
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I think they should, not that they care what I think. But there is nothing live action about either film. At least Dinosaur used real life environments with cg over the top. And if I remember it was not considered animation because of that. Heck, I would have classified it as animation just to have the top grossing animated film at nearly 1.7bil. That might never get beat.
 
Disney Irish

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In reality does it matter if its classified as "live-action" or "animation". Someone is going to be upset either way, because its not seen as real animation by some and its not seen as real live-action by others, so Disney should classify it however they want since they are damned if they do and damned if they don't.
 
erasure fan1

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Disney Irish said:
In reality does it matter if its classified as "live-action" or "animation". Someone is going to be upset either way, because its not seen as real animation by some and its not seen as real live-action by others, so Disney should classify it however they want since they are damned if they do and damned if they don't.
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No it really doesn't. At least if they classify it as animation, they have a monster record for highest grossing animated film. Plus, as far as I can tell, the don't actually classify it in any category. As far as I have seen, more think it's animation than live action. So instead of being damned by both sides, only the minority side has an issue.

My question would be, why would anyone think it's not animation? It's a different style sure, but it's no less animation than frozen or toy story.
 
Disney Irish

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erasure fan1 said:
No it really doesn't. At least if they classify it as animation, they have a monster record for highest grossing animated film. Plus, as far as I can tell, the don't actually classify it in any category. As far as I have seen, more think it's animation than live action. So instead of being damned by both sides, only the minority side has an issue.

My question would be, why would anyone think it's not animation? It's a different style sure, but it's no less animation than frozen or toy story.
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Except IO2 already surpassed that so it doesn't really matter in that regard either. This is why this whole conversation on its classification, especially now, is meaningless.

The biggest issue I've seen is that some purists don't want to classify it as animation because they feel it takes away from the art form, which I think is BS.

So to me who cares what its classified as at this point, call it animated, live-action, or some other category, it made a whole truck load of money for Disney, that is all that matters at the end of the day. So if it makes some people feel better to not call it animation, so be it.
 
erasure fan1

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Disney Irish said:
Except IO2 already surpassed that so it doesn't really matter in that regard either. This is why this whole conversation on its classification, especially now, is meaningless.
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Lol, I didn't realize it passed it. Just barely, but it did. I will say neither deserves it but oh well.
Disney Irish said:
The biggest issue I've seen is that some purists don't want to classify it as animation because they feel it takes away from the art form, which I think is BS.
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To that I would say then no cg animation should be animation. I'm not saying you think it's not animation. It's like saying a photorealistic painter isn't an artist but Picasso is? It just makes little sense to me.
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So to me who cares what its classified as at this point, call it animated, live-action, or some other category, it made a whole truck load of money for Disney, that is all that matters at the end of the day. So if it makes some people feel better to not call it animation, so be it.
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Great, in that case we can all agree to classify it as crap. 😜
 
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Disney Irish

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erasure fan1 said:
Lol, I didn't realize it passed it. Just barely, but it did. I will say neither deserves it but oh well.
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Yep it did, $36M more to be exact. So whether its TLK or IO2 Disney has the title on either front, so again doesn't really matter.

erasure fan1 said:
To that I would say then no cg animation should be animation. I'm not saying you think it's not animation. It's like saying a photorealistic painter isn't an artist but Picasso is? It just makes little sense to me.
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I agree, which is why this whole thing is silly.

erasure fan1 said:
Great, in that case we can all agree to classify as crap. 😜
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Well don't know if I agree with that. But I appreciate your opinion.
 
erasure fan1

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LittleBuford said:
I don’t really think of it as animation. For me, animation is as much an aesthetic as it is a technique. And Mufasa strives to look like-action.
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For me, aesthetic really means very little. I feel stop motion to CG to 2d hand drawn to photo realism equal. If it's all made with one or any combination of techniques, it's an animated film in my book. And really, I think it's much harder and takes more skill to make photo realistic animals and have them move and feel natural.
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Well don't know if I agree with that. But I appreciate your opinion.
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Lion king is still my favorite animated movie of all time. I've just never been so disappointed in a film. It's no secret I don't like the remakes. But this was way below even my low expectations. When you are remaking something as great as the Disney Renaissance films, I judge them against the original.

To bring it back to Mufasa, I was burned with lion king so I won't see it on the theater. But I will watch when it comes to D+. I hope it's not just a animation show piece. Because I think this is the direction they should go with these remakes. Tell new stories in these universes.
 

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