News Splash Mountain retheme to Princess and the Frog - Tiana's Bayou Adventure

[GoneForGood]

I'm struggling to understand this. No-one is being asked to accept either version of the ride as real or realistic. They both involve landscapes that don't look as they should and animals that talk.

I was never claiming that. I said I found the storyline of the new attraction hard to grasp. Because It doesn't quite make sense to me.

 

[LittleBuford]

I was never claiming that. I said I found the storyline of the new attraction hard to grasp. Because It doesn't quite make sense to me.

You referred to being a native of where the attraction is supposed to take place, which is why I thought your objections were geographical. My apologies for misunderstanding.

 

[GoneForGood]

You referred to being a native of where the attraction is supposed to take place, which is why I thought your objections were geographical. My apologies for misunderstanding.

No worry

 

[GimpYancIent]

Well, there's always Avery Island. It's about 160 feet above sea level. That could count as a "mountain" -- in Lousiana at least. The Tabasco tie-in would make a great kiosk in the exit area.

Would Tabasco consider being a sponsor?

 

[ᗩLᘿᑕ ֊ᗩζᗩᗰ]

Would Tabasco consider being a sponsor?

Hmm. Their branding game is pretty strong so I don't see why they wouldn't. I'm sure all Disney would have to do is ask.
Hit it hard with a couple of shots of Tabasco and it's the bee's knees - Frog Tiana

 

[owlsandcoffee]

I have very low expectations for this. It's incredibly frustrating that in the company's desperate bid to be politically correct, they've managed to a) destroy a good work of art b) insult their black audience by just going "here it's a black character now, happy?" c) make their one ride starring a black character a shoddily-done rush-job, not commensurate with the previous work, making non-racist fans resentful of it.

(Edit, just check below. But in short, I'm being a bit of a jerk here and we need to wait for the ride to be done)

 

[James Alucobond]

It's incredibly frustrating that in the company's desperate bid to be politically correct, they've managed to a) destroy a good work of art b) insult their black audience by just going "here it's a black character now, happy?" c) make their one ride starring a black character a shoddily-done rush-job, not commensurate with the previous work, making non-racist fans resentful of it.

Are you from the future?

 

[owlsandcoffee]

Are you from the future?

If I'm wrong about it, I will quote myself and call myself a ding-dong.

 

[James Alucobond]

If I'm wrong about it, I will quote myself and call myself a ding-dong.

Was mostly just curious about who won the World Series in 2026 so that I could get my bet in now.

 

[doctornick]

I don't agree. The draw is the drop, not the old animatronics of possums.

For some maybe, but most people who love Splash are into it because of the fantastic show scenes and music. If the ride were otherwise the same but was a boat ride like Pirates and didn’t have the big drop, I’d expect it to be almost as popular.

Heck, there’s people who ride Splash despite the drop - my father for one who won’t do any thrill ride at WDW but will ride Splash just to enjoy the show (and get white knuckle scared during the drop). He also goes through the ToT queue and bails at the ride.

 

[DCLcruiser]

Do you work for the Disney Channel? Or Disney Marketing?

I wish. I did minor is marketing, but no, I work in wealth management. I think I would lose my love for Disney if I worked for the company. I stayed away from the College Program for that reason.

 

[DCLcruiser]

For some maybe, but most people who love Splash are into it because of the fantastic show scenes and music. If the ride was otherwise the same but was a boat ride like Pirates and didn’t have the big drop, I’d expect it to be almost as popular.

Heck, there’s people who ride Splash despite the drop - my father for one who won’t do any thrill ride at WDW but will ride Splash just to enjoy the show (and get white knuckle scared during the drop). He also goes through the ToT queue and bails at the ride.

I agree that a lot of nostalgic guests love the song/show scenes, but the draw of Splash Mountain for a new guest is the drop. They probably don't even know that a show scene is part of the deal.

I will also argue that an equally catchy song, plus equally compelling AA, but with a different IP would have been just as popular for all these decades.

Which is why I don't fear the IP change.

 

[GoneForGood]

I agree that a lot of nostalgic guests love the song/show scenes, but the draw of Splash Mountain for a new guest is the drop. They probably don't even know that a show scene is part of the deal.

I will also argue that an equally catchy song, plus equally compelling AA, but with a different IP would have been just as popular for all these decades.

Which is why I don't fear the IP change.

Admittedly, You are absolutely correct.

 

[Ghost93]

Admittedly, You are absolutely correct.

Yeah I remember when I first rode Splash Mountain I thought all it would be was a drop and was surprised to discover how long the ride was.

 

[doctornick]

I agree that a lot of nostalgic guests love the song/show scenes, but the draw of Splash Mountain for a new guest is the drop. They probably don't even know that a show scene is part of the deal.

I will also argue that an equally catchy song, plus equally compelling AA, but with a different IP would have been just as popular for all these decades.

Which is why I don't fear the IP change.

I would agree that an "equally catchy song, plus equally compelling AA, but with a different IP" would be just as popular. I have zero faith in current WDI's ability to achieve that, though, which is why I expect this new ride to be a downgrade from what is currently there. Note: This is not about PatF but on the skill of the current WDI folks; I'd sure Tony Baxter could design a fantastic PatF ride.

The quality of show in Splash is truly fantastic as good as any of the elite Disney ride. I don't think modern Disney would be able to build a HM or POTC equivalent nowadays either. I'm sure that the PatF Splash will be decent, but it's a tough lightening in a bottle thing to get a ride like Splash.

 

[LittleBuford]

I have very low expectations for this. It's incredibly frustrating that in the company's desperate bid to be politically correct, they've managed to a) destroy a good work of art b) insult their black audience by just going "here it's a black character now, happy?" c) make their one ride starring a black character a shoddily-done rush-job, not commensurate with the previous work, making non-racist fans resentful of it.

Have members of Disney’s Black fanbase said they feel insulted, or is that just an assumption on your part?

And how can you condemn it as “a shoddily-done rush-job” when they haven’t even started work on it yet?

 

[LittleBuford]

Are you from the future?

You said it more pithily and effectively than I did.

 

[999th Happy Haunt]

I agree that a lot of nostalgic guests love the song/show scenes, but the draw of Splash Mountain for a new guest is the drop. They probably don't even know that a show scene is part of the deal.

I will also argue that an equally catchy song, plus equally compelling AA, but with a different IP would have been just as popular for all these decades.

Which is why I don't fear the IP change.

The drop pulls you in to the ride for the first time, but the great show scenes and songs keep you coming back. I know people that get emotional over hearing Zip-A-Dee-Doo-Dah because of Splash.

With the shoestring budget this project is rumored to have being spread over both coasts, it’s hard for me to imagine the new show scenes being as good as Splash or anywhere near the animatronic count Splash currently has. We also already know the song selections possible for the attraction, and in my opinion none of them even come close to Zip-A-Dee-Doo-Dah or even have the quintessential Disney feel that How Do You Do and Laughing Place have.

Which is why I fear the IP change.

 

[GoneForGood]

Have members of Disney’s Black fanbase said they feel insulted, or is that just an assumption on your part?

And how can you condemn it as “a shoddily-done rush-job” when they haven’t even started work on it yet?

I have mentioned it, there's a few complicated reasons. Don't I won't discuss here. But I do NOT speak for everyone of my background.
As for the ride, I'll wait to see the finish project before saying anything final on it.

 

[champdisney]

I guess we're going to be getting one new piece of concept art for this retheme every 14 months along with a sit down and chat video until a 2026 debut?