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Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

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Lilofan

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Nubs70 said:
For small business owners with life savings and financial future at risk, how did it feel when the government declared your business "Not Essential"?
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You are aware of the term " flattening the curve "? Govt deeming business non essential while drastic and hurtful for small businesses is part of the flattening the curve.
 
lazyboy97o

lazyboy97o

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bryanfze55 said:
COVID-19 is always going to be with us. It’s way too transmissible of a virus for “zero COVID” to be a realistic goal. I think smallpox is the only virus that has been totally eradicated. People will have to make their peace with that.
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Rinderpest, which infects cattle, has also been eradicated along with two of the three types of polio. A few other diseases have been eliminated from the US and other parts of the world, meaning while they are still out there they are not circulating in the US.
 
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mmascari

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Lady Liberty said:
Maybe you weren't referring to my post but I want to clarify when I said that CV19 will never be fully gone I wasn't suggesting that anyone not get vaccinated. I think that all who can get vaccinated, should get fully vaccinated. Please don’t think or suggest that what I said had any other meaning than that the virus is here to stay just like the flu and we all have to learn to live with it. This may require yearly vaccinations just like we get the flu shot annually.

I’m not sure why a comment about women who are pregnant getting the vaccine was taken so harshly, please explain. Please enlighten me what the second part of the sentence is supposed to be. For me there was no “second part”.
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I don't know if it was you or not. It's a theme of many posters and talking points. Which creates a communication problem. Someone who repeats the first part of a talking point, and leaves out any additional nuance or context isn't communicating well. They're repeating the the talking point part, and with no other information present, the assumption everyone else hears is the rest of the talking point.

So, "COVID will never go away, so there's no sense getting a vaccine" is a talking point and perspective of "vaccine hesitancy". It's a bad take and stupid, up there with "it's not 100% so why bother making anything even a little better". Then, someone will later post just "COVID will never go away" with not other information. Even if they don't mean it with the rest of that statement, it's too late. The rest is what everyone hears. A communication problem. Either they really did mean the rest of that, "so why bother", or they're not communicating what they really mean and everyone is getting a message they didn't intend.

Likewise, all the pregnant and fertility talking points are "we don't know the impact the vaccine will have on pregnancy or fertility, so don't get the vaccine". Leaving off the second part implies that the post is being coy but that's what they really mean. A communication problem again. Since the statement is completely false.

Unless that's what someone really means, which is a bad take and incorrect for both.

Lady Liberty said:
Maybe there are so many no vaxers because of those who were so against the vaccines when they first came out. If you look back a few months and remember who the people were that said they would never get the vaccine you will see that those same people are now in prominent positions and are now pushing the vaccine. Interesting how in a few months time they have changed their minds and want everyone to get vaxed. I guess this is a perfect example of being careful of what you say because it can come back and bite you.
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This take completely drops all the nuance and twists the facts incorrectly too. This is not what happened at all. It does however match with the original communication problem above of not saying the end but just implying it. So, maybe it was you then. Or, you're communication to everyone that there are "concerns and implications and LOTS of reasons to not get the vaccine", but being coy about it to not actually say those things outright.

There's tons of posts like "oh you should get the vaccine, but there's all these concerns and issues and you should TOTALLY do your own research first and make sure that none of those is an issue to you specifically". They're all junk. All a way to put a veneer of "get a vaccine" on a message that is really the reverse. The number of reasons to not get the vaccine is amazingly small and applies to very few people. All of whom are very aware of their restrictions and not doing some random internet search to learn about an issue.
 
TrainsOfDisney

TrainsOfDisney

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Nubs70 said:
For small business owners with life savings and financial future at risk, how did it feel when the government declared your business "Not Essential"?
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It felt completely accurate. What I do is 100% non essential. Between unemployment and SBA I was fine. Work came right back when everything opened up.

If things close down again, my work will return again. It’s really quite simple.
 
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bryanfze55

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lazyboy97o said:
Rinderpest, which infects cattle, has also been eradicated along with two of the three types of polio. A few other diseases have been eliminated from the US and other parts of the world, meaning while they are still out there they are not circulating in the US.
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It’s largely scientific consensus that COVID-19 will become endemic. The likely outcome is what we should prepare for rather than the desired outcome.
 
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drizgirl

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TrainChasers said:
It felt completely accurate. What I do is 100% non essential. Between unemployment and SBA I was fine. Work came right back when everything opened up.

If things close down again, my work will return again. It’s really quite simple.
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It wasn't simple when my husband's unemployment took more than 6 months to show up. There were TONS of people in the same boat.
 
GoofGoof

GoofGoof

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KrzyKtty said:
Sitting here for my son 7th grade orientation, and there are easily over a thousand parents and kids packed into this multipurpose room 🤣🤣. No mask requirement. Pretty sure I saw more people wearing a mask at Universal studios Orlando. 🤷
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My kids are going into middle school and high school this year. Both have an orientation next week. In both cases they uninvited parents and are limiting it to just kids so they can do better distancing. Masks are required for all kids and staff at all times as they will be once school starts. It’s crazy to me that after all this time people don’t get it.
 
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