A dark sense of humor at its core, is still a sense of humor. So sometimes, that is what can keep one going. Never lose it as it can be the one thing no one can take away. (I know at that point you know this but I wanted to echo what you said)
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A dark sense of humor at its core, is still a sense of humor. So sometimes, that is what can keep one going. Never lose it as it can be the one thing no one can take away. (I know at that point you know this but I wanted to echo what you said)
Heppenheimer
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Military readiness. Even if they're only sick enough to stay home, you can wipe out an entire unit's training or refurb schedule in a day if COVID rips through them.
It could be a disaster if this happened during a deployment.
Jedijax719
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That's scary and extremely disturbing! If it can do all of that, then it's a race between replication and binding of antibodies. The worry is that there will be new variants that result in rendering current vaccinations useless (this is what happens with the flu every season). If it were a seasonal issue (new strains every season) then problems can be mitigated through new vaccines each year or twice a year. However, if it spread THAT quickly, then it can mutate quickly as well. The silver lining right now is that the breakthrough cases are still rather low and are hardly resulting in hospitalizations. That's good news. Hopefully this peaks and peaks very soon.Pretty good write-up on the situation:
'The sky is not falling': Provincetown outbreak shows vaccines work, even against Delta
A combination of high vaccination rates and renewed masking appears to have significantly slowed growth of the Provincetown cluster just as that cluster was making national news.www.yahoo.com
This section confirms what I thought:
If it is able to take root, the Delta variant appears to replicate with disturbing speed, so that “the viral load of vaccinated and unvaccinated persons infected with SARS-CoV-2 is also similar,” said the CDC study. While breakthrough infections remain rare, when they do happen, they will almost certainly lead to heightened transmission.
So breakthrough infections are still rare but when they happen the viral load is much more likely to be high enough to infect others with Delta.
Harris County, Texas reported over 4000 cases today which is more than the entire state of Texas reported for most of June and July. Texas is following Florida's "example".
GoofGoof
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My company is headquartered in Houston so I’ve heard it’s getting worse there. We are still doing OK but we are returning to masks for everyone at all facilities nationwide. I’m kinda hoping they see what these other major companies are doing and require the vaccine to come into work.
For all the doom and gloomers who are all but saying they want stay at home suggestions reinstated for all:
www.nytimes.com
If you're vaccinated you are still quite safe to participate in life. If not, go get your d**n shot right now. But if you're vaxxed there is no need to stay inside your house and panic post hyperbole on Disney fan forums to spook each other
Vaccinated People May Spread the Virus, Though Rarely, C.D.C. Reports (Published 2021)
The agency cited an outbreak in Provincetown, Mass., in which most of the infected were immunized. An internal C.D.C. document paints an even more harrowing picture.
If you're vaccinated you are still quite safe to participate in life. If not, go get your d**n shot right now. But if you're vaxxed there is no need to stay inside your house and panic post hyperbole on Disney fan forums to spook each other
CarolinaSoprano
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Hi guys. I was posting last week while on our 10 day trip to WDW. My group is all vaccinated. I was happy with the no masks and waited to go until they dropped them. So we went. Had a fantastic time at the parks and the Yacht Club. Well we were home for 3 days and me and my husband started getting sick. My symptoms are headache, sore throat, runny nose and excessive sneezing (odd). My kids 14 and 12 have zero symptoms thank god. I am not mad at Disney for no masks nor myself for going. Just wanted to put it out there that for anyone going soon well, good luck. Even with masks you will be packed in like sardines with strangers in many many circumstances. The masks are NOT a guarantee. My vaccine did work though, as I do not need medical attention in any way. Just a miserable/annoying 4 days so far hanging on the couch. Just wanted to share my experience.
Clamman73
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You could’ve picked up RSV.
GoofGoof
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Did you wear a mask just indoors or all of the time while you were there?
Flugell
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Hope you and your husband soon feel better.
Have you been tested? Those are frequent symptoms of Delta variant according to English guidance. I hope that you don’t feel ill enough to but understanding how many vaccinated get ill is important data!
Take care.
A fun work around would be to let them know they will have to show it before boarding to return to Florida.
CarolinaSoprano
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I (we) did not wear a mask at all except the skyliner and bus. I was talking in general. There is no way even with masks that this highly contagious variant will stay contained. People will still get sick unfortunately.
CarolinaSoprano
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No we did not go get tested. Just don’t feel the need I guess. We do not need medical attention. We are all just hanging out for the rest of the summer at home before school starts so no work or interacting with people etc. for a while. And we are ok! Just annoying symptoms and waiting to feel 100% again.
GoofGoof
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Sorry, I thought you meant you wore a mask and it didn’t help. I agree masks are not 100% but if you are wearing a mask and an infected person is too and you have contact you are still less likely to be infected. I don’t know how much less likely but it at least helps some, even against Delta.
ImperfectPixie
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I live in MA not far from where the Cape starts (and grew up not far from where I live now), so yes, you could say I'm familiar.
(To be honest though, I've never visited. I've been to towns relatively close, but not actually P-Town. Living so close to the Cape and experiencing the traffic the summer people bring with them every year makes the Cape lose a lot of its draw.)I looked it up, and Bear Week was thankfully suspended (it was supposed to take place 7/10-7/18). Visitors from out of town and out of state were almost definitely the cause, there's been no doubt about that in my mind at all - P-Town's entire population is just under 3000 people, and on the whole, MA cases were WAY down and had been holding pretty steady. The scene at P-Town is the stuff of legends...when I saw that was where the outbreak happened...the partying popped into my head right away. I wouldn't be at all surprised if there were much smaller clusters of new cases along the coast because people flock to the beaches, and young people in particular throw some pretty epic parties on the 4th (I *may* have attended a few in my day, lol). If there's anything a lot of people in MA like, it's their booze (and now their weed, too
).My concern since seeing the new information isn't really for the vaccinated (though we're definitely upping how careful we're being), it's mostly for those who haven't gotten their shots yet...particularly kids like our 10-year-old. MA is (so far) only recommending masks in school for grades k-6 in the fall, and I know from extended school year that recommendations don't do squat - my kid has been the only one wearing a mask on his bus, and he says there are only a couple of kids masking up at school.
Disney Experience
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Lol. Technically they are returning from abroad and entering the country, federal law could apply.
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GoofGoof
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We got the notification this afternoon our district is going back to masks for everyone no matter what the vaccination status. The county recommended all districts adopt that guidance from the CDC.I live in MA not far from where the Cape starts (and grew up not far from where I live now), so yes, you could say I'm familiar.
I looked it up, and Bear Week was thankfully suspended (it was supposed to take place 7/10-7/18). Visitors from out of town and out of state were almost definitely the cause, there's been no doubt about that in my mind at all - P-Town's entire population is just under 3000 people, and on the whole, MA cases were WAY down and had been holding pretty steady. The scene at P-Town is the stuff of legends...when I saw that was where the outbreak happened...the partying popped into my head right away. I wouldn't be at all surprised if there were much smaller clusters of new cases along the coast because people flock to the beaches, and young people in particular throw some pretty epic parties on the 4th (I *may* have attended a few in my day, lol). If there's anything a lot of people in MA like, it's their booze (and now their weed, too
My concern since seeing the new information isn't really for the vaccinated (though we're definitely upping how careful we're being), it's mostly for those who haven't gotten their shots yet...particularly kids like our 10-year-old. MA is (so far) only recommending masks in school for grades k-6 in the fall, and I know from extended school year that recommendations don't do squat - my kid has been the only one wearing a mask on his bus, and he says there are only a couple of kids masking up at school.
ImperfectPixie
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Are you in MA? (Sorry...I can't remember if you've said or not.)
GoofGoof
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No PA.
Incomudro
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The effectiveness of the vaccinated wearing the damned cloth in real world situations is unknown.
We can just as well argue that the unvaccinated, and those who cannot get the vaccine for various reasons - should wear n95's.
Jedijax719
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The articles about the Cape Cod issue have been confusing and, in some cases, contradictory. But the parts that are consistent state that a majority of those who tested positive were vaccinated. We don't know the percent of TOTAL people who actually tested positive (or at least I haven't read that), just the % OF the positive cases that were vaccinated. That's the part that is confusing. What % of THAT population was vaccinated to start with? I'd say. being in Massachusetts, a majority of the total were vaccinated. It would be easy to read it and interpret it as "vaccinated people caught it more readily than unvaccinated" which, of course, would be untrue.
Seems the delta strain was already heavily abundant within that group during the July holiday and spread like wildfire. The key term thrown around in articles is "viral load" which also keeps popping up here. Close-knit gatherings in large numbers would keep that viral load high. Throw in a lot of drinking, touching, kissing, etc. that goes on in a party town and-boom-there ya go.
Anomaly? We'll have to see. Hopefully yes.
Seems the delta strain was already heavily abundant within that group during the July holiday and spread like wildfire. The key term thrown around in articles is "viral load" which also keeps popping up here. Close-knit gatherings in large numbers would keep that viral load high. Throw in a lot of drinking, touching, kissing, etc. that goes on in a party town and-boom-there ya go.
Anomaly? We'll have to see. Hopefully yes.
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