I wrote months ago on here that the government needs to provide individuals with a cash incentive to get vaccinated. Biden encouraged states today to offer $100 payments to those getting vaccinated. I don’t believe that’s enough of an incentive. Pay people $500 or more, and maybe you’ll see the number of vaccinated individuals rapidly move upward.
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Vegas Disney Fan
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Does that include cutting checks to those of us responsible enough to get vaccinated months ago? Or are we just bribing, and rewarding, the irresponsible?
Virtual Toad
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Thanks for stepping up to help solve the problem. We appreciate your community spirit and concern for your fellow man.
There has been a significant increase in hospitalized children, many seriously.
Chomama
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CDC mask decision followed stunning findings from Cape Cod beach outbreak
The CDC's mask decision followed stunning findings from a Cape Cod beach outbreak. The viral load of vaccinated beachgoers changed what we know about the delta variant.
abcnews.go.com
from a Wall Street Journal column ( https://www.wsj.com/amp/articles/cd...side-effects-hospitalization-kids-11626706868 )
“A tremendous number of government and private policies affecting kids are based on one number: 335. That is how many children under 18 have died with a Covid diagnosis code in their record, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Yet the CDC, which has 21,000 employees, hasn’t researched each death to find out whether Covid caused it or if it involved a pre-existing medical condition.”
“My research team at Johns Hopkins worked with the nonprofit FAIR Health to analyze approximately 48,000 children under 18 diagnosed with Covid in health-insurance data from April to August 2020. Our report found a mortality rate of zero among children without a pre-existing medical condition such as leukemia.
DisneyDebRob
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Paywall?
BuddyThomas
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Translation - the unvaccinated refuse to wear masks indoors so now the vaccinated have to. My patience with these people is reaching a breaking point. Here’s a portion of an article I just read and it is exactly how I feel. I can’t post the whole thing due to political content:
“Compassion should always be the first reaction to vaccine hesitation. Maybe some unvaccinated people have trouble getting time off work to deal with side effects, maybe they are disorganized, maybe they are just irrationally anxious. But there’s no getting around the truth that some considerable number of the unvaccinated are also behaving willfully and spitefully. Yes, they have been deceived and manipulated by garbage TV, toxic Facebook content, and craven or crazy politicians. But these are the same people who keep talking about “personal responsibility.” In the end, the unvaccinated person himself or herself has decided to inflict a preventable and unjustifiable harm upon family, friends, neighbors, community, country, and planet.”
Talking about the CDC data used to make this guidance change.
Here are the slides of an internal CDC document WaPo obtained -
BuddyThomas
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Just rewarding the irresponsible.
Here in NY, they have been giving away free subway and commuter train tickets, free museum, theatre, and concert tickets, entering people into lotteries where they could win thousands of dollars, and paying for college. My own company is giving away 5 prizes of $15,000, and you’re entered to win if you get vaccinated. Since I was vaccinated in April, I get none of the above. Grrrrr.
Chomama
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Thanks and sorry about the paywall
ImperfectPixie
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This is why I say tax the hell out of them. They don't deserve a "prize" for doing what they should have to begin with. It's like giving a kid who spit in the teacher's face a candy bar.
Or telling a kid that they need to do x number or chores in order to get their allowance, then giving them even more than their allowance even though they never did the chores.
Chomama
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Internal cdc docs
1) “the war has changed”
2) delta is as transmissible as the chicken pox
3) acknowledges their own communication/messaging issues
4) this new variant is basically a sh-t storm
I feel like... it's a $100, I'm not crying that I won't get it. If it gets shots in arms, I'm alright with it.
Let's get this done.
BuddyThomas
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So true. People in other countries that do not have enough vaccine for their populations must really be thinking that we are totally insane.
ImperfectPixie
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I don't think it will at all...it's not enough.
And as the parent of 2 autistic children who has faced many challenges similar to this, rewarding bad behavior is NOT the way to go. They'll just expect even more when it comes time for boosters.
ImperfectPixie
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If they really want to drive it with cash, they need a decreasing reward, not getting better the longer you wait.
Give everyone who started vaccination by 7/31 or 8/7 $500. Payable only when you’ve completed all doses. Then reduce it $100 (or $50 if you’re being generous) every week. Keep going after $0, charge people who wait longer a tax penalty, maybe $1,000 max. If you get 15 weeks of ignoring this, you’re already lost.
Carrot, follow through incentive, and stick all in one. With a sense of urgency built in. We would see vaccinations spike the first two weeks.
Give everyone who started vaccination by 7/31 or 8/7 $500. Payable only when you’ve completed all doses. Then reduce it $100 (or $50 if you’re being generous) every week. Keep going after $0, charge people who wait longer a tax penalty, maybe $1,000 max. If you get 15 weeks of ignoring this, you’re already lost.
Carrot, follow through incentive, and stick all in one. With a sense of urgency built in. We would see vaccinations spike the first two weeks.
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