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Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

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correcaminos

correcaminos

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Heppenheimer said:
That infertility scare comes up with every new vaccination, and it is nothing more than deliberate misinformation propagated by anti-vaxxers. They know even the suggestion causes an emotional reaction that it is very difficult to counter with data-based narratives (I experienced this first-hand in clinic last week). Their marks then share these baseless worries via social media. It steamrolls until it hits someone who has experienced difficulties conceiving, which she then retrospectively attributes to receiving the vaccine, and voila, we now have now passed the social media burden of "proof".

This is how it starts... 1. "How do we know that the vaccine won't cause X? "(planted by anti-vaxxer in bad faith)

2. " I'm worried about X, maybe I shouldn't get the vaccine until they can prove it doesn't cause X. I should share this." (mark of the anti-vaxxer)

3. "Oh, I've had X and I also had the vaccine. The vaccine must have caused X! I should share this online!"

4. "Vaccines cause X!" (says Facebook)

I've dealt with this kind of misinformation at least once a week for the past three months.
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This is so true! Started with "huh my period was xzy instead of xyz like usual" never mind that covid is stressful and getting vaccinated is an emotional thing or that they were finishing a stressful time as they were finishing graduate work/degree or that we're mid 40s. Nope, the only choice was vaccine alone and infertility issues. The bad seed is planted and highly educated can be suckered in.

DisneyCane said:
After you explained some of these issues and gave examples a few months ago, I definitely can understand the hesitancy for some. Having never seen the type of things you described where I live or in the healthcare setting where my wife works in South Florida, I had no idea that those kind of things were happening.

I just hope that as more and more people are vaccinated, that more people will get over their hesitancy. Hopefully they will realize that they are getting the same exact vaccine as white people and it really isn't a care setting where they would be treated differently. It's just somebody giving an injection.

It is disheartening to me that there are people who elect to remain vulnerable to COVID because of this type of experience based hesitancy. It's different than people who believe kooky things like tracking nanobots, DNA modification and infertility as their reason to be hesitant. For the latter group, I could care less what happens to them. For the former group, I don't feel that any mitigation measures should be in place to protect them because they do have the opportunity to get vaccinated but I care that they aren't getting vaccinated and wish they would.

As I said a few months ago, I personally convinced a Jamaican man in his 60's that the vaccine was safe. He was very hesitant but I convinced him that he shouldn't be. A lot of my persuasiveness was that he has a lot of respect for my wife and I was able to use her as an example and to give him some facts. I just hope that more people like him can find somebody they trust to push them over the edge towards getting the shot(s).
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Yeah it's tough to overcome. Some try to point to medical trials for both Blacks and Latinos, but it's really a systemic issue. I always worry about my MIL who has an accent with ESL for her. My husband also spoke Spanish first, but he has no noticeable accent. His brother has a very proper accent since he was forced to do speech therapy due to his speaking Spanish first. But both of them at least don't suffer their parent's issues with language barriers. It's not fun causing a stink to get a social worker on your side, but I've done it. When you fight a system so much why would one trust it?

I'm just lucky to have enough STEM access in my life with an engineering father that I have faith in science. I don't need Windex or Vicks to fix it (watch Into the Heights for that reference).

might be why I still have patience in people with this. Trusting medical world is a big ask for some. Huge. I have faith we'll get there... paciencia y fe

I am so glad you got through them. Knowing someone going through it always helps. It's why I've been vocal about my trial experiences. Seeing a trusted person helps I think. Though it's slow going sometimes.
ImperfectPixie said:
The important thing is that they quickly and openly corrected themselves, as any reputable news source does.
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Absolutely! And the poor person just misspoke. Can you imagine trying to get all the info our correctly all the time? So stressful.
 
James J

James J

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lewisc said:
Are the UK numbers for fully vaccinated or does it include those who only received the first shot. I think UK is still extending the intervel between shots
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The time between shots is now 8 weeks in the UK - it was previously 12.
 
KrzyKtty

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KrzyKtty said:
Poor daughter ended up in tears on the way home. She asked why Ft. Moultrie wasn't open yet, and I told her I wasn't sure, but maybe the virus. So she ended up telling me very happily that she couldn't wait for her 9th birthday (next June) when the virus would be all gone. When I explained how that wasn't a thing, she was not a happy camper LOL. She has words for those not getting vaccinated in droves LOL.

Told her that she would be by that point though, and she would still have fun in WDW next summer. (Fingers Crossed).
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What was really weird about this is the entire thing was unprompted LOL. Right out of left field!
 
James J

James J

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carolina_yankee said:
Have we seen numbers on AstraZeneca compared to Pfizer with regard to Delta? I think those are the two the Brits are using. I could see the disparity if AZ is not as good against Delta as mRNA vaccines, plus the UK is further along with Delta than we are. We are mostly mRNA, which can help.
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We're using AstraZeneca, Pfizer and Moderna. Pfizer was the first to be used here last December, followed quickly by AZ. Then Moderna was introduced more recently.

We ordered the same amount of AZ and Pfizer but I don't really know who has had which shot, apart all under 40's getting Pfizer or Moderna.
 
Horizons '83

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Trauma said:
They can sit in line for a stick up their nose but not a needle in their arm.

Irony.
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To be fair, that's a bit apples to oranges though. Discomfort of a swab vs. whatever people conjured in their minds that the vax will do to them. 3rd arms, being uploaded to Bill Gates harddrive, etc. (For the record I am vax'ed)
 
correcaminos

correcaminos

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TJ Vazquez said:
To be fair, that's a bit apples to oranges though. Discomfort of a swab vs. whatever people conjured in their minds that the vax will do to them. 3rd arms, being uploaded to Bill Gates harddrive, etc. (For the record I am vax'ed)
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Truth. Though having done both on the same day more than once, I'll take the shot :p
 
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