What method would you suggest that hasn’t already been tried? They can’t be bribed (lotto,) they can’t be reasoned with, and we have made it as hassle free as possible. The rabbit has rejected the carrot and you think any stick is too cruel yet it’s wrong just to allow them to die. This is not a thought experiment, this is the real world and any solution will be messy, either start selectively restricting their freedom, forcibly vaccinate, or watch them die. Each solution has its problems, and like it or not it’s clear the most politically expedient one is let them die, and we have a history in this country of always choosing the most politically expedient option.
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Why do we keep saying they can’t be bribed.
This is just false.
In the last two days I alone have bribed 5 family members.
How can you not see the difference between a lotto you are not going to win and a guaranteed financial reward?
LittleBuford
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Again, I’ll defer to the experts on this one. They seem to think empathy rather than stigmatisation is the way to go.
Science | AAAS
Well that’s a cute idea.Again, I’ll defer to the experts on this one. They seem to think empathy rather than stigmatisation is the way to go.
Science | AAAS
science.sciencemag.org
Im sure we are going to have a sudden groundswell of empathy in this country.
It might happen
Anicdotal evidence. A stimulus will likely only convince a portion of the 25% who are just not sure, the rest will try to obtain it via fraud (which will be extremely simple given proof is a paper card) or simply forgo it.
Slpy3270
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Children aren't protected as long as the vaccine isn't cleared for them!
mf1972
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my wife & i both work in a hospital. we were vaccinated back in december/january. our hospital recently announced mandatory vaccinations for all employees by 10/1. there are people we know in our departments who refused to get it, & are not happy with the announcement. i’ll admit it’s a touchy issue but it came as no surprise. it’s also mandatory to get the flu shot every year as well.
i understand why people are hesitant to get it & try not to judge, but it’s a shame when there’s so much misinformation out there.
although it’s currently not as bad in our hospital as it was months ago as far as the number of positive cases, it doesn’t hurt to use a little caution. i’ve told people in the past what u see on tv does no justice when u see it face to face.
on that note, i personally hope more people would just get vaccinated.
i understand why people are hesitant to get it & try not to judge, but it’s a shame when there’s so much misinformation out there.
although it’s currently not as bad in our hospital as it was months ago as far as the number of positive cases, it doesn’t hurt to use a little caution. i’ve told people in the past what u see on tv does no justice when u see it face to face.
on that note, i personally hope more people would just get vaccinated.
ImperfectPixie
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Each state knows exactly who has been vaccinated and who hasn't. All I needed to do was enter my name and contact info to enter the lottery in our state. We forgot my son's vaccination card when we went for his second shot, but it didn't matter...they just looked him up.
Slpy3270
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Just because you may be fine doesn't mean the people you spread it to will. And even full vaccination is no guarantee you won't spread it to others, especially if you're dealing with the delta variant.
They are protected by their young healthy immune system and something else that had been protecting them since the beginning. Severe disease in children thankfully remains rare.
Some states do, you live in one and so do I but not every state has a vaccine registry, and the federal government doesn’t either.
ImperfectPixie
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That should have been set up while the vaccines were in trials. Pathetic that it wasn't.
WOW who could have predicted this?
You mean to tell me vaccine passports work?
What a silly idea, let’s just mask and social distance again to slow the spread for the next 12 years.
Yes... amazing, if you require people to get vaccinated in order to participate in public venues, most will actually get vaccinated.
On the other hand, if there is no perceived consequence of not getting vaccinated (with many still believing Covid is not concerning), more people will forego the vaccines.
If you truly enforced vaccine passports, there would be zero need for masking or mitigation within passport venues.
So I’ll take “How do we get out of the giant mess” for $300 please Alex…..
GimpYancIent
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It's France! Not exactly trend setting.
willtravel
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California woman first to face federal charges over fake COVID immunizations, vaccination cards
A homoeopathic doctor in California became the first person in the United States to face federal criminal fraud prosecution over fake COVID-19 immunization and falsifying coronavirus vaccine cards.
www.foxnews.com
I understand this is on just vaccine and card, but there will be problems with fake passports also. May help but.......
We can't let the perfect be the enemy of the good.California woman first to face federal charges over fake COVID immunizations, vaccination cards
A homoeopathic doctor in California became the first person in the United States to face federal criminal fraud prosecution over fake COVID-19 immunization and falsifying coronavirus vaccine cards.
I understand this is on just vaccine and card, but there will be problems with fake passports also. May help but.......
willtravel
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Didn't help in Ohio.
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