I can’t find my original posting but would not have replied in this manner if Canada hadn’t been mentioned.
You really can't do numbers like that and not account for waning immunity. I had covid 15 months ago and I have to assume I have little to no immunity from that and nothing against the Delta variant. For now I depend on the vaccine and others to get vaccinated. I was tested for antibodies a few months after I recovered and the result was negative. The test was about 75% accurate at the time so I don't know but you can't assume because someone had covid they are immune to anything.
Sometimes I think I had it easy. Being in the trial made all close to me unafraid. I have a distant cousin or two that hold out, but as a whole the people I see often are all vaccinated. I made it my goal to help as many vaccinate as possible too so often in my group so many were getting shots the first week possible. I did have to tell a cousin that there will be no visiting until all are fully vaxxed but as a whole it was easy.Our discussions also included protecting their reluctant grandparents. We wanted to do our best to not be the ones infecting them if it happened.
Ultimately, all boomers on my side of the family got the vax except for one aunt we may never see again, and another in FL who her and her husband posted some horrible things and ultimately jumped to "social media that doesn't censor" as they have gone into the deep end of crazy conspiracy.
DWs side had some reluctants, but we persuaded them by insisting we wouldn't see them until they were vaxed. It may not have been the only factor, but it contributed. A little tough love there.
Socially, we still only unmask indoors with those we know have been. I've got some neighbors who I suspect aren't vaxed based on their only recent removing of a blue and white flag, but I keep a distance. They think they caught it in March of last year, so must be immune. Never a test, mind you, but they were pretty sick, so they must have had it.Unknown if their technically adult kids got vaxed on the QT.
I may be misunderstanding because I'm not an expert on biology or how the immune system works. However, my understanding is that the long term immunity does not rely on antibodies that keep floating around in your blood stream. What I gather is that your t-cells "learn" to recognize the virus and produce antibodies when you are infected.
True but we have no measure of that. The testing has shown a drop and a vulnerability to Delta so you can't count infected/recovered as immune. There simply is no data to decide how many, how much and if any immunity exists across the recovered. Some are yes, but to try to put a number on it is a futile exercise until more data is developed.
149 confirmed reinfections
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With Delta circulating we may see an uptick, too early to tell. We are very much in a wait and see how we do mode.
WHO is a global organization with a tough job - getting wealthy nations to care about what happens to people in less fortunate ones.
I posted the quote because it applies to the US since we seem to have 1) forgotten about the children and 2) assumed the pandemic is over.
Yes. THiS!
So everyone knows Mark Burnett and his most popular reality entertainment, Survivor and The Apprentice. Both represented a pretty cutthroat view of life. However, he had another project which pre-dated those...EcoChallenge. That one showed the dangers of ego and hubris, pushing too hard / powering through and ignoring the signs of your body breaking down, not carrying about the weakest member of your team and being willing to carry their burden at times, and the way nature and the course didn't care about your feelings and could eat you alive. It presents the type of mindset you need to face a pandemic vs how humans usually act, pretty well, actually. What is presumed to be strength can be a weakness and what seems like weakness can be exactly what a particular moment requires.
When you first posted I was beyond irate on what was happening on targeting Asians in NYC. Your first post which resulted in 5M views, 76K replies really did evolve into an interesting discussion on corona virus , WDW etc.
No you’re not wrong, it really is that simple.
It's not just the US. It wasn't controlled anywhere except for isolated Island/Continent countries. Some countries had lower spread due to a unified and strict response but it's not like any country stopped the virus in its tracks using mitigation measures that didn't involve a vaccine.