India. India happens. So, unless you want a world where the stench of a funeral pyre endlessly burns, stop with the nonsense. If you want honest discussion, try a different angle. There’s actually plenty of lively debate in this thread, but very few have a tolerance for adolescent, nonsensical arguments.
That’s not really what he said, and yes to both.
No. India doesn’t happen. Not in a 1st world country with 1st world healthcare.
I have a question for you, you want mandates because it’s easier for you to make customers wear masks at your store that way. Weight of the law and all that. Fine.
I objected to your word "weird." Of course, you can't predict which one exactly. But I will say that when I first heard weird virus and China, I immediately knew which west coast cities were at risk. People who study human migrations would be able to generate lists of travel corridors that needed surveillance. Then know what cities have increased visitors from the UK, Brazil, India or wherever. Us not knowing, doesn't mean that somebody doesn't know. But that will not be the type of info that makes it into the news because if it went to Buffalo and not Detroit or Seattle not Los Angeles, people would be crucified. We know the governor of Michigan has been taking things more seriously than most states, until the state Supreme Court did a run-around. I don't think health officials in Michigan were nearly as surprised as the residents of Michigan. There is far more info out there to those who need to know it. The rest of us are supposed to trust in people who have better access, but instead people took the absence of a problem at a specific moment, as proof that nothing would happen in the future.
Personal opinion, especially having no experience with Israel personally. The biggest difference in a sea of perceived differences is Israel’s mandatory service to the country. It causes a deep-seeded sense of teamwork to be a part of something like military service. In no way does it cause people to think in lock-step, but it does foster a sense of “greater good.” Perhaps it has something to do with Israel’s relatively low adult vaccine hesitancy. The large amount of people in the US military and its supporting industries during WWII earned them the monicker of our greatest generation. I’m sure they didn’t all support every cause together, but they knew how to treat each other and work toward a goal. Fast forward to today and even service to our country via the armed forces has been an attempted use of political posturing. So, in short, our current socio-political state is the deck we’re given, and what a few posters (myself included) are resigned to observe in their fellow American. We just have to try and bring along as many as possible to end this pandemic in the best way the US likely can.
What makes us inferior? A very vocal and ignorant part of the population who continues to barf anti-science and anti-expert rhetoric.
NYC metro last spring would like a word. Italy and Spain might need a translator, but would join the conversation, too. Without the relatively harsh mitigation enacted there it was quickly spiraling in that direction.
I live here. We were never India. Never even close.
Regionally, between area's with some restrictions on travel between them, herd immunity can happen at different rates.
I think the more appropriate question may be, what makes us more complicated than other nations? To compare the US to Israel is not at all an apples to apples comparison. Even if adjusted for size an population, you are comparing one of the most strict nations to enter and exit vs a 48 state (continental US) nation with 48 different governing bodies open to one another. Possibly, you could compare the US with the EU as a whole, but I'm not sure what sort of travel they have been allowing between each nation either, but when you see the up and down cases from France, Italy, Spain, Greece and so forth you get a better grasp of a group of bordering areas all dealing with similar struggles as the US has.
Temper temper.... I simply asked a question and you're telling me that asking a question is nonsense? No need to go full tilt totalitarian.
You’re trying to prove what exactly? While the red state/blue state explain some of the national numbers by far the biggest driver is age, if you’re >35 around 50% have been vaccinated, 16-34 around 30%. We need to get the young adults to do their part.