Figgy1
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Thank you for clarifying
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Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion
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ParentsOf4
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An important milestone, the CDC reports that 80% of those 65 or over have received at least one shot.
pixie225
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NY now has 26.42 percent of population fully vaccinated. 39.61 with 1 dose. https://covid19vaccine.health.ny.gov/covid-19-vaccine-tracker
Now with Pfizer saying a booster might be needed (https://www.wsj.com/articles/annual...ots-likely-needed-pfizer-ceo-says-11618520527) an informal survey taken by our local cable news station shows everyone surveyed said they would take the booster. No big deal.
Now with Pfizer saying a booster might be needed (https://www.wsj.com/articles/annual...ots-likely-needed-pfizer-ceo-says-11618520527) an informal survey taken by our local cable news station shows everyone surveyed said they would take the booster. No big deal.
LovePop
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I updated my covid death rate by age chart to see senior numbers better:
Basically, the numbers look dramatically worse the older a person gets, and it's much more worth it for older people to get the vaccine than younger people, being that 80% of those died from covid are over 65. What's more, this is likely true every year from now on, with the odds getting worse the older a person gets. And if a person starts getting the vaccine, they should likely need to be diligent about getting it every year, just like the flu shot. And, maybe a person should get the flu shot too, if they are going to get the covid vaccine anyway.
Basically, the numbers look dramatically worse the older a person gets, and it's much more worth it for older people to get the vaccine than younger people, being that 80% of those died from covid are over 65. What's more, this is likely true every year from now on, with the odds getting worse the older a person gets. And if a person starts getting the vaccine, they should likely need to be diligent about getting it every year, just like the flu shot. And, maybe a person should get the flu shot too, if they are going to get the covid vaccine anyway.
GoofGoof
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Don’t be surprised if your flu shot is an mRNA one in the not too distant future. When Pfizer and BioNTech first partnered it was to develop an mRNA based flu shot that could be manufactured much faster and cheaper than the traditional flu shots. This would allow them to start manufacturing many months later into the Summer and have a much better chance of picking the right strands of flu to add to each year’s vaccine. They obviously switched gears quickly when Covid hit, but now that the technology was proven it should make other mRNA based vaccines easier to get through testing and trials.
disneygeek90
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Johnson & Johnson may look into that if they’re able to get going again. They love a 2 in 1If they could just combine the flu shot and covid shot into one shot - we'd be golden!
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Chi84
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CDC Identifies Small Group of Covid-19 Infections Among Fully Vaccinated Patients
Breakthrough cases represent 0.008% of the fully vaccinated population and are in line with expectations because the approved vaccines in the U.S. are not 100% effective.
www.wsj.com
disneygeek90
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But they almost definitely will A. Not die B. Not be hospitalized and C. Not have a super severe case.I don’t know if anyone has posted this yet. CDC report from today says that 0.008% of fully vaccinated people have been infected with COVID. Their takeaway from this is that the number is a reminder that vaccinated people are at risk and should continue to take precautions. It’s worrying to consider what number will be acceptable to the CDC in order to loosen restrictions on vaccinated people.CDC Identifies Small Group of Covid-19 Infections Among Fully Vaccinated Patients
Breakthrough cases represent 0.008% of the fully vaccinated population and are in line with expectations because the approved vaccines in the U.S. are not 100% effective.
Sorry but idk how I’m supposed to maintain concern for literal years when I have a .008% of getting covid post vaccine and a probable .000000001 chance of dying from it.
GhostHost1000
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that is major problem in my opinion because no one knows where the line is going to be drawn and those of us that are vaccinated are going to have to be restricted of normal life because of others who don’t get vaccinated.
take Disney as an example - most of us would love to see it back to normal...but when will it be? There will always be a risk so when does life become normal again or does it not
Tom P.
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Their takeaway from that data is total and complete garbage. And I'll stop there for fear of running afoul of the no politics rule.I don’t know if anyone has posted this yet. CDC report from today says that 0.008% of fully vaccinated people have been infected with COVID. Their takeaway from this is that the number is a reminder that vaccinated people are at risk and should continue to take precautions. It’s worrying to consider what number will be acceptable to the CDC in order to loosen restrictions on vaccinated people.CDC Identifies Small Group of Covid-19 Infections Among Fully Vaccinated Patients
Breakthrough cases represent 0.008% of the fully vaccinated population and are in line with expectations because the approved vaccines in the U.S. are not 100% effective.
GhostHost1000
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There will always be a risk. At some point we have to get back to normal. People are getting tired of being held back because of those who won’t get vaccinated and all the doom and gloom we see in the news (like people that get the shot may get covid so we should just masks and hide forever?). There’s a risk of riding a Disney bus to the park or riding a roller coaster etc. as well but I’ll take the risk and it’s my decision.I don’t know if anyone has posted this yet. CDC report from today says that 0.008% of fully vaccinated people have been infected with COVID. Their takeaway from this is that the number is a reminder that vaccinated people are at risk and should continue to take precautions. It’s worrying to consider what number will be acceptable to the CDC in order to loosen restrictions on vaccinated people.CDC Identifies Small Group of Covid-19 Infections Among Fully Vaccinated Patients
Breakthrough cases represent 0.008% of the fully vaccinated population and are in line with expectations because the approved vaccines in the U.S. are not 100% effective.
GoofGoof
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I don’t see an issue. We just aren’t there yet. No use worrying about a “what if” that hasn’t happened yet. If the government says we can never return to normal then the government will be replaced. We all get a vote, even in Georgia...just bring your own bottle of water
I’m vaccinated so I don’t need to wear a mask, but I understand why they aren’t just removing all public restrictions yet. If we reach the point where the vast majority of people are vaccinated and community spread is way down I’m confident the restrictions will be gone. For Disney all of the CMs haven‘t had a chance to be vaccinated yet. If they just removed all the Covid rules including masks to appeal to the vaccinated in society they would be putting some of their own workers at risk. Once everyone has had the chance to be vaccinated then that’s not an issue anymore. Those workers will be deciding to take their own risk. It’s a month or 2 before we can officially say anyone who wanted the vaccine had their shot. IMHO that is when the majority opinion is society as a whole will turn in favor of removing restrictions, including distancing and masks at WDW. Right now the majority still agrees with keeping restrictions but that will change soon.
GhostHost1000
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I think it will change soon as well. Maybe by JuneI don’t see an issue. We just aren’t there yet. No use worrying about a “what if” that hasn’t happened yet. If the government says we can never return to normal then the government will be replaced. We all get a vote, even in Georgia...just bring your own bottle of water
I’m vaccinated so I don’t need to wear a mask, but I understand why they aren’t just removing all public restrictions yet. If we reach the point where the vast majority of people are vaccinated and community spread is way down I’m confident the restrictions will be gone. For Disney all of the CMs haven‘t had a chance to be vaccinated yet. If they just removed all the Covid rules including masks to appeal to the vaccinated in society they would be putting some of their own workers at risk. Once everyone has had the chance to be vaccinated then that’s not an issue anymore. Those workers will be deciding to take their own risk. It’s a month or 2 before we can officially say anyone who wanted the vaccine had their shot. IMHO that is when the majority opinion is society as a whole will turn in favor of removing restrictions, including distancing and masks at WDW. Right now the majority still agrees with keeping restrictions but that will change soon.
LovePop
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Maybe Disney can slow down on the deep cleaning now:
www.theatlantic.com
I've always thought that. Given that covid is a respiratory disease similar to the flu, it can't be spread by touching so easily. Instead of wasting time and money cleaning surfaces excessively, it's better to focus on ventilation and filtering air.
"Deep Cleaning Isn’t a Victimless Crime
The CDC has finally said what scientists have been screaming for months: The coronavirus is overwhelmingly spread through the air, not via surfaces."
Deep Cleaning Isn’t a Victimless Crime
The CDC has finally said what scientists have been screaming for months: The coronavirus is overwhelmingly spread through the air, not via surfaces.
www.theatlantic.com
I've always thought that. Given that covid is a respiratory disease similar to the flu, it can't be spread by touching so easily. Instead of wasting time and money cleaning surfaces excessively, it's better to focus on ventilation and filtering air.
GhostHost1000
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More good news *facepalm* I’ve had rough side effects all week from my 2nd shot
Pfizer CEO: ‘Likely’ Third Coronavirus Shot for Fully Vaccinated People Will Be Necessary and one each year
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/...or-fully-vaccinated-people-will-be-necessary/
Pfizer CEO: ‘Likely’ Third Coronavirus Shot for Fully Vaccinated People Will Be Necessary and one each year
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/...or-fully-vaccinated-people-will-be-necessary/
Kevin_W
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To be fair, the percentages will be higher because people haven't been vaccinated all that long yet, so cases will go up. But I get your point, those are good numbers, not bad ones.
GoofGoof
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I can’t promise the government in every state will follow logic and common sense, but I am confident public sentiment will shift and businesses like WDW and retail chains will follow public sentiment as much or more than the government. By the Summer we will see a major shift.
correcaminos
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Then it goes on to say we have robust at 6 and could be fine at a year or longer... we don't know. But yeah let's report this now when we still worry about getting people with their first round. I hate the news sometimes....
“We need to be careful about that six-month number. The study only went out as far as six months. We know for sure it’s effective for six months, but highly likely that it will be effective for considerably longer period of time,” he said during an appearance on The Mehdi Hasan Show.
“So the good news is that it’s at least six months. Hopefully a lot more. But in direct answer to your question, if it turns out a year or a year and a half, we very well may need to get booster shots to keep up the level of protection,” he added
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