GoofGoof
Premium Member
You need to stop. It’s completely disrespectful and unnecessary.
-
The new WDWMAGIC iOS app is here!
Stay up to date with the latest Disney news, photos, and discussions right from your iPhone. The app is free to download and gives you quick access to news articles, forums, photo galleries, park hours, weather and Lightning Lane pricing. Learn More -
Welcome to the WDWMAGIC.COM Forums!
Please take a look around, and feel free to sign up and join the community.
Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion
- Thread starter Parker in NYC
- Start date
-
- Tags
- coronavirus covid covid-19
- Status
CaptainAmerica
Well-Known Member
It's directly from the CDC. COVID is much more dangerous than the flu for the elderly and much much less dangerous than the flu for children.
Similarities and Differences between Flu and COVID-19
Learn about similarities and differences between flu and COVID-19.
www.cdc.gov
Chomama
Well-Known Member
I really wasn’t trying to start a debate. I understand the known risks to my kids. We don’t need to keep going. I don’t want to make this thread any more contentious than it already is.It's directly from the CDC. COVID is much more dangerous than the flu for the elderly and much much less dangerous than the flu for children.
Similarities and Differences between Flu and COVID-19
Learn about similarities and differences between flu and COVID-19.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
And my kids get a flu shot. And my son was hospitalized with the flu last year with a fever of 107.5 and extreme dehydration. And my daughter has pediatric epilepsy. And my other son was in the pediatric icu with a respiratory virus. I have 4 kids and they attend 3 different schools. They would like to be able to go to school with a mask off and see their friends in other home rooms and play sports again and have sleepovers. Schools aren’t changing the rules any time soon and this mama would rather not have to worry about my kid having a long term issue from getting covid as a kid. We don’t know what we don’t know and I don’t want to put them at risk if I don’t have to. Just like they get the flu shot.
Well...booyah
You shouldn’t have said anything...you were owned.
But you deserve it here...going down the road of “covid isn’t a concern for ______”
It’s been a year...the blank is still empty
oceanbreeze77
Well-Known Member
EXACTLY.Schools aren’t changing the rules any time soon and this mama would rather not have to worry about my kid having a long term issue from getting covid as a kid. We don’t know what we don’t know and I don’t want to put them at risk if I don’t have to. Just like they get the flu shot.
This virus impacts the respiratory system, cardiovascular system, nervous system, possibly the reproductive system, and other systems in Adults, we don't know what impact it may have on kids (who are still developing these systems) later in life.
giantgolfer
Well-Known Member
Just because you don’t give a flip about other people around you, doesn’t mean we aren’t allowed to worry about our own children’s health.
Parents work hard to keep their children healthy, whether it’s a common cold or COVID-19. You’re gonna have to realize that, as crazy a thought as you think that is.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
“...there’s nothing wrong with a parent not wanting their child to get covid...or to get vaccinated”
- The Silent Majority
2021
- The Silent Majority
2021
correcaminos
Well-Known Member
Moderna is also further behind than Pfizer-BioNTech. Moderna just fully enrolled and Pfizer-BioNTech did end of last year IIRC. So there might be a delay on which. J&J being a more "normal" vaccine has some looking at it differently so it could be ready by Sept https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news...s-03-03-21/h_35ba20bf305e14ecf885d3c653172c2f
I had to click through 2 links for the definition, but got to this:It's directly from the CDC. COVID is much more dangerous than the flu for the elderly and much much less dangerous than the flu for children.
Similarities and Differences between Flu and COVID-19
Learn about similarities and differences between flu and COVID-19.
“Children younger than 5 years old–especially those younger than 2– are at high risk of developing serious flu-related complications.”
It’s not like that risk is a hard line either where 6 is totally fine or at 18 you’re an adult for COVID risk now. But, what is a hard line is under 12 has a long way to go until approved for a vaccine.
Lots of parents can have legit concerns for kids. Especially parents of 5 to 12 year olds who are much farther from vaccination. Even 12 to 16 have a longer wait than a 20 year old.
Chomama
Well-Known Member
It would be great to have at least the beginnings of a rollout for kids when school starts next year. Taking teenagers out of the spreading group would likely help to slow things down and keep more flared from happening in the next year. I know my kids’ schools will not remove masks and distancing until the covid rates are significantly lower and herd immunity has arrived or is close - and I am in a state that has not done much to mitigate the spread. I know there are people that are unconcerned about kids and covid. I just don’t really care to find out if they are correct or not! We have a vaccine. Let’s use it.
Tom P.
Well-Known Member
I will probably come back and expand on this thought when it's not midnight. But I watched Biden's speech in its entirey. And it was easily the worst presidential speech I have seen in my lifetime. By a mile. And, yes, I'm including the utter horsesh*t we had to listen to day in and day out from Trump.
It is clear Biden knows nothing about leadership. Nothing about how to motivate and inspire a nation. In a time where there is truly light at the end of the tunnel, and people are desperate to hear some positive news, the leader of the free world just came out and crapped all over everything. After an uplifting and inspiring PSA from most of the living former presidents, inspiring people to get vaccinated and looking forward to a return to normal, Biden struck an absolute dreary and depressing tone, devoid of any hope.
If Biden truly wants people to get vaccinated, he is approaching this in exactly the wrong way. And he's going to cause more people to skip the vaccine, feeling there is no real point.
It is clear Biden knows nothing about leadership. Nothing about how to motivate and inspire a nation. In a time where there is truly light at the end of the tunnel, and people are desperate to hear some positive news, the leader of the free world just came out and crapped all over everything. After an uplifting and inspiring PSA from most of the living former presidents, inspiring people to get vaccinated and looking forward to a return to normal, Biden struck an absolute dreary and depressing tone, devoid of any hope.
If Biden truly wants people to get vaccinated, he is approaching this in exactly the wrong way. And he's going to cause more people to skip the vaccine, feeling there is no real point.
1HAPPYGHOSTHOST
Well-Known Member
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
Biden is really old...Reuters just broke the story. He’s Francois Mitterrand.
Anyway...I’m curious - being a renowned presidential historian you are - how would you like it to be framed? Honest question.
oceanbreeze77
Well-Known Member
He literally said everyone will be eligible in less than 2 months for the vaccine and that we will most likely get to celebrate 4th of July with our family and friends having fun and doing the things we used too....... so depressing...../s
His tone has to be solemn. We lost over half a million people within a year when we really could have avoided a lot of deaths. It is a solemn moment for our nation. A moment for reflection. Today I felt sadness as I remember what I did this day last year down to the second. A year ago everything changed. We lost so much. Not just lives, but jobs, our livelihood, we lost a whole year of time. We have endured a lot this year and now we can be hopeful, but we are allowed to feel sad.
This speech made me feel like our president was with us in our suffering but also with us in our hopeful race to the end.
MrHappy
Well-Known Member
I’d take a return to full and normal menus....looking at you Liberty Tree.
You can take your opinion to the political thread. There will be members that will disagree with you.
I might think he’s slow walking on the 4th, but I did think he struck a hopeful tone and I find it so refreshing to hear the President actually support vaccinations. We desperately need everyone to do our part and it was great to see the PSA with all but one of the living former presidents urging the same.
Today's Covid19 breakdown from the NY Times has some good news for most of the US and some bad news for the States that joined Governor Cuomo's lead. Florida is down to 22 cases per 100,000 and now there are only 5 states with cases in the 20's. However, Delaware had a huge spike and now has 30 cases per 100,000, joining RI which increased from 30 to 31, NY which improved from 37 to 36 and leading the pack NJ which again increased from 38 to 39. Back to good news the number of states in single digits increased from 4 to 6 and California is now at 10.
4 states in the 30's
5 states in the 20's, all 20 to 23
36 states in the 10's
6 states in single digits
Improvement but not fast enough. I have no idea what happed in Delaware which reported 798 cases yesterday and a 7 day average of 291, something is wrong there. But NJ is a complete disgrace being 69.6% higher than DC and 77.3% higher than Florida. I just did a quick calculation and if yesterday's 798 cases was removed, Delaware's average for the other 6 days is 20.2 per 100,000. It will be interesting to see what the number is today and if yesterday was a fluke then Delaware could drop to the 10's in another 7 days.
4 states in the 30's
5 states in the 20's, all 20 to 23
36 states in the 10's
6 states in single digits
Improvement but not fast enough. I have no idea what happed in Delaware which reported 798 cases yesterday and a 7 day average of 291, something is wrong there. But NJ is a complete disgrace being 69.6% higher than DC and 77.3% higher than Florida. I just did a quick calculation and if yesterday's 798 cases was removed, Delaware's average for the other 6 days is 20.2 per 100,000. It will be interesting to see what the number is today and if yesterday was a fluke then Delaware could drop to the 10's in another 7 days.
Last edited:
- Status