Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[Touchdown]

What was the previous reinfection rate for chicken pox?

Do you know what shingles is?

there is no reinfection risk with chicken pox because it never leaves your body. That virus is a member of the Herpes family, and herpes, my friend, is forever .

 

[GoofGoof]

It's not a hard decision, it's an unpopular one, there's a difference. All of those clubs, bars, businesses relying on large group gatherings have financial records, pay taxes and payroll. If the public health need demands they all be closed for some amount of time, the answer is to just pay them to be closed. Pay the guy that owns the bar as if the government came in and exclusively reserved the entire place. Have him pay his workers as if they worked the hours, pay the suppliers for the product that would have been used. Pay them all as if they did the work, but require they stay home instead. As we don't want them competing in the market with others, just replacing the consumer purchaser with government to consume the supply. It still creates edge cases where not everyone does well. What about someone who only opened a bar last month? Or, even worse, the guy who was opening next month but hasn't yet? Or the guy thinking about opening. Somewhere there is a line, and people on the line are going to lose. But, it's not hard to make the line smaller and minimize the people, just unpopular.

I don’t disagree that the approach you describe is a good way to handle it, but there is strong resistance to that too. There’s a lot of resistance to even extending unemployment benefits let alone bailing out small businesses. I agree that if we can safely get 90% of the economy going then it’s acceptable for the government to carry the 10% that are left. It’s in everyone’s best interest. I think the main resistance you would get is from the instant gratification crowd. They say they want those businesses open for the sake of the owners and the economy but it’s really more about wanting to do what they want to do.

I also think that if we had a better national plan to keep the virus more in check involving testing and tracing and education of consumers we would be in a much better place from both a public health standpoint and economically. Instead we get political rhetoric, Covid denial, deep state conspiracies and pushing drugs that are proven to be ineffective. It’s sad that we are in the place we are right now. Not all that shocking, but still sad. There’s still time to make up for lost time and do better. I just don’t think the plan should be give up now and just hope for a vaccine. It almost seems that is the approach some would prefer.

 

[GoofGoof]

From the article:
Dr. Mina said mitigation generally aims for an R of just above one, while suppression aims for an R of below one.

Some epidemiologists and economists argue ramped-up testing could enable the economy to reopen safely without a vaccine. Mr. Romer estimates the U.S. could restore $1,000 in economic activity for every $10 spent on tests.

I just wanted to highlight how important this point is. We had some discussions here about what plan B should be if a vaccine never pans out. We could get to a reopened economy without a vaccine if we had a large enough investment in testing and just as importantly public buy in. We can’t have a portion of the population believing that we are doing too much testing already. Everyone has to buy in. We seem to have gotten mostly there on masks. Even though there are a large number of people who still doubt masks are effective most have agreed to wear them when required in order to be able to go to a store or a doctors appointment or to WDW.

 

[mellyf]

A Seminole county high school has a confirmed case, families of the students that were in close contact have been notified. I'm not really sure how people expected school to go well.

Honestly, I'm not sure most people care if it goes well. They either think it's not going to happen to their kid, or they're keeping their kid out. School staff is not an area of concern for most people.

I should add that I teach upper elementary. We started back this week. My students have been amazing with their masks. I have a couple that struggle, but they do well with reminders. They're also really working hard at trying to be mindful of social distancing when we go outside for our mask breaks. I love being with my students, and I know they're happy to be back. I have almost half that are remote, so we're able to be spaced far enough apart in class. It's sad too though, because usually the first week is about scavenger hunts and getting to know our classmates, and working in small groups to build teams. Yes, we're doing those things in different ways, but it's not the same.

 

[Chip Chipperson]

Do you know what shingles is?

there is no reinfection risk with chicken pox because it never leaves your body. That virus is a member of the Herpes family, and herpes, my friend, is forever .

I've had shingles twice already and it's no fun - especially when you have an outbreak on Christmas Day. Luckily, I caught it early both times and kept it under control with antivirals.

 

[Castmbr]

I live near Ohio State, so this made local news. Not too much different than other campuses, sadly. But I'm glad to see the University taking action. Thousands/tens of thousands of students are paying good money for an education, their right to that education shouldn't be taken away by a few that cannot follow the rules.

Ohio State University Suspends 228 Students For Violating Covid-19 Guidelines

As Covid-19 cases continue to increase nationwide, colleges and universities have had to make difficult decisions about the fall semester.

www.forbes.com

Obey or the authoritarians will pounce

 

[Andrew C]

Fears of ‘spillover’ to vulnerable in Europe as Covid-19 surges among young

France recorded a new post-lockdown record of new Covid-19 cases on Sunday; the virus has also bounced back in Spain, Italy and Germany. Death rates remain low as the virus is mainly circulating among…

www.france24.com

 

[Castmbr]

 

[Kevin_W]

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Woah, that's funny! I haven't seen anything like that on this thread!

Checking the math - 0.02% of the US population would be 60,000 dead, or about 1/3 the amount already killed by the disease in the US. There are a range of mortality projections, but the low end of those projections is 5-10x higher than that.

 

[GoofGoof]

Woah, that's funny! I haven't seen anything like that on this thread!

Checking the math - 0.02% of the US population would be 60,000 dead, or about 1/3 the amount already killed by the disease in the US. There are a range of mortality projections, but the low end of those projections is 5-10x higher than that.

Funny how accounts get banned and “new” accounts pop up that only post in Covid threads.

 

[JoeCamel]

Funny how accounts get banned and “new” accounts pop up that only post in Covid threads.

I have to wonder the motivation. Seems a lot of work just to post on a fan site where no one will be swayed by anything anyone else posts.
What is the payoff?

 

[DisneyDebRob]

I have to wonder the motivation. Seems a lot of work just to post on a fan site where no one will be swayed by anything anyone else posts.
What is the payoff?

The payoff is somewhere in their mind they are getting back at the system and getting their point out there still. Makes no sense to me but I guess to them it does.

 

[jmp85]

Testing Data for State from previous day

Total FL Residents Tested: 58,143
Positive: 3,327
Negative: 54,816

Percent Positive: 5.72 %

 

[DCBaker]

Numbers are out - (the data files are not being released as early as they used to be)

 

[Castmbr]

Woah, that's funny! I haven't seen anything like that on this thread!

Checking the math - 0.02% of the US population would be 60,000 dead, or about 1/3 the amount already killed by the disease in the US. There are a range of mortality projections, but the low end of those projections is 5-10x higher than that.

I can see that the very sensitive still have no sense of humor. I consider this forum just above twitter , not quite 6 feet under but 3 feet under.

 

[GoofGoof]

Numbers are out - (the data files are not being released as early as they used to be)

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Good to see testing going back up.

 

[Kevin_W]

Funny how accounts get banned and “new” accounts pop up that only post in Covid threads.

Yep, just checked the post history.

I can see that the very sensitive still have no sense of humor. I consider this forum just above twitter , not quite 6 feet under but 3 feet under.

So why make an account a month ago just to post in this and similar thread, then?

 

[techgeek]

Can you imagine the drama if WDW had to send out emails like this: ?

 

[Castmbr]

So why make an account a month ago just to post in this and similar thread, then?

Thanks Pedigree Kevin

' Best way to learn and understand how the other side thinks is to jump into the cesspool sometimes. I am intrigued at what goes on here especially when a differing opinion is expressed.

After hearing that most of my dept was on the furlough chopping block, I though "Maybe some of these forums might have decent information" ....LOL. Just thirsty drama in an echo chamber.

 

[_caleb]

I can see that the very sensitive still have no sense of humor. I consider this forum just above twitter , not quite 6 feet under but 3 feet under.

With over 170K people dead, probably not the best material for jokes.

Also, asking you as a former CM, do you think the flippant attitude about the virus that you demonstrate with posts like these would affect a CM's ability to comply with and enforce public health protocols in the parks?