News Tron coaster coming to the Magic Kingdom

celluloid

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I love seeing Disney billboards while on my way to Disney.

I don't want to derail the thread, but I have a question... are there billboards for Disney all over Florida, or just in Orlando?

Growing up around Southwest Florida and visiting, I can say not often. It is to remind and get your dollars when you are close to to advertise the offerings in the parks that you are not visiting. The closest I saw in SWFL was at one point an billboard for Food and Wine about a decade ago.
 

Giss Neric

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To be honest, if they were choosing to bring a ride here from Shanghai, I would rather choose their Pirates instead of Tron but of course many will be mad if they replaced their beloved classic iconic ride to a more technically advanced ride with screens.

Tron is not thrilling at all except for the launch. It's still fun but it's a family ride. I'm sure a huge majority of Disney regulars will still find it scary.
 

BubbaisSleep

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To be honest, if they were choosing to bring a ride here from Shanghai, I would rather choose their Pirates instead of Tron but of course many will be mad if they replaced their beloved classic iconic ride to a more technically advanced ride with screens.

Tron is not thrilling at all except for the launch. It's still fun but it's a family ride. I'm sure a huge majority of Disney regulars will still find it scary.
The other side of the park desperately needs something new & exciting, especially in the Adventureland area. I wouldn't be totally upset with 2 pirate rides and an expanded Pirate's land. That side of the park is just way too gentle which sucks that the two roller coasters are next to each other. Indiana Jones, Shanghai's pirates, or something new but thrilling needs to happen.
 

Surfin' Tuna

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60 seconds of coaster. Give or take a second. How much is this costing again?
Do you mean dollars or sight lines sacrificed? Or do you mean what happened to the ruined Tomorrowland when someone put this in the wrong park? What cost, sir, do you mean?

Am I sounding too negative tonight?
 

Giss Neric

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Do you mean dollars or sight lines sacrificed? Or do you mean what happened to the ruined Tomorrowland when someone put this in the wrong park? What cost, sir, do you mean?

Am I sounding too negative tonight?
I think most if not all the exorbitant amount of money spent in Tron was in the queue, the facade, and the effects inside the showbuilding. If you remove all that, this will just be a mediocre coaster found anywhere else.
 

Surfin' Tuna

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I think most if not all the exorbitant amount of money spent in Tron was in the queue, the facade, and the effects inside the showbuilding. If you remove all that, this will just be a mediocre coaster found anywhere else.
It's a fun little ride and could be enjoyable with no wait. It was just put in the wrong park, although not cloning it would be have been preferred. For the numbers this thing is costing they could have come up with a better, original ride. They could have also fixed Space Mountain and the rest of Tomorrowland. If you consider everything, I think mediocre is too kind for the project as a whole.
 

October82

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Three brake runs. No one is discounting a final brake run that every coaster needs. But three in a span of less than two minutes is oddly paced and much more than most launch coasters with such a short durration.

Objectively against your claim, are multiple rides in the same state. Going from just the average time a ride starts in durration after the chian, most large coasters at regional parks are still longer even not counting their pauses.

If you are excited about it that is fine. Facts are facts.

Not commenting on what it does or doesn't do for pacing, but the three brake runs are required to achieve the capacity needed for a Disney park. Most coasters aren't located in parks with ~20 million gate clicks/year.
 

Giss Neric

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It's a fun little ride and could be enjoyable with no wait. It was just put in the wrong park, although not cloning it would be have been preferred. For the numbers this thing is costing they could have come up with a better, original ride. They could have also fixed Space Mountain and the rest of Tomorrowland. If you consider everything, I think mediocre is too kind for the project as a whole.
Agree. I'm more excited for Cosmic Rewind to be honest and the Raptor coaster at Universal. Those two looks like it will pack a punch in terms of thrill.
 

celluloid

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Not commenting on what it does or doesn't do for pacing, but the three brake runs are required to achieve the capacity needed for a Disney park. Most coasters aren't located in parks with ~20 million gate clicks/year.

I am aware of what block brakes do and I imagine others here know as well. You can have many block brakes and still have good design is what a point would be. Nothing personal but your point about 20 clicks is irrelevant. Between people who do not like coasters, not making Tron a priority ride at a Disney Park, not in good health, mean far less will ride the coaster than will ride it who enter. Space Mountain for exmaple, gets a surprising low amount of ridership compared to the gate clicks, is in the same park, and that ride features the good design from decades ago.

Back to the commentary on pacing and design
More block brakes are actually needed for constant dispatching of a very short coaster with so many trains on the track for safety, so that is the point. If it is known that they are going to be needed, than you know it is effect on the ride experience. You have a coaster that is already short, that launches for its main thrill but short, dampened even more by three brakes needing to be there because it is in fact so short with more dispatched amount of trains wanted from the stations. Space Mountain was the first computer block braked coaster, has more of them to keep those multiple small trains going and maintains its thrills for the durration and was built over 40 years ago.
Hagrids Magical Creature Motorbike Adventure is in a high volume park changes directions, keeps the thrill and utilizes some for other elements. Even with its kinks, it manages to have a constantly load platform and multiple launches throughout the ride, seven I believe. RocknRollercoaster puts its block brakes as skims past large elements such as launch and loop or corkscrews.
 

_caleb

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It feels very short when you are on it...the brakes in the show building ruin the experience. and having the ride split into three sections heightens the feeling of shortness... The Launch, The Canopy run, The show building. The don't flow together, they are like three acts. Sure the Canopy is cool...and it is exciting to see the coaster zoom outside, but from a storyline standpoint, it makes no sense and sort of takes you out of the world of tron..you are outside, then braking hard, then dropping into the show building with too many brakes. It is a beautiful ride, and a fun idea, it is just too short...
I still remember the photo you posted of yourself on TRON in Shanghai. Looked like you were having fun! But your points about the ride being short and the weird transitions between indoor/outdoor portions kind of make me disappointed and I haven’t even ridden it yet!
 

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
Between people who do not like coasters, not making Tron a priority ride at a Disney Park, not in good health, mean far less will ride the coaster than will ride it who enter. Space Mountain for exmaple, gets a surprising low amount of ridership compared to the gate clicks, is in the same park, and that ride features the good design from decades ago.

But isn't there always a line for SM? That means that there are always more people who want to ride it than the ride's capacity can handle, no?
 

Bocabear

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I still remember the photo you posted of yourself on TRON in Shanghai. Looked like you were having fun! But your points about the ride being short and the weird transitions between indoor/outdoor portions kind of make me disappointed and I haven’t even ridden it yet!
I never said it wasn't fun... The launch is very fun...and the pictures are taken at launch... Parts of the attraction are great...ride length and excessive braking take away from the overall experience...Perhaps a better ending would end it on a high note instead of a long empty hallway back to the station (Rock n Roller Coaster). Since in the ride, you won against the other team, it could be more of a celebration of victory instead of nothingness...it would help enforce the story...Maybe the queue will tell a better story than the Chinese version ( I don't speak Chinese, so it is probable that I missed quite a bit)... If it tells you anything, Tron was a walk-On the evening we were there but still big lines for Pirates Of The Caribbean ( which moves HUGE volumes of people).
 

_caleb

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I never said it wasn't fun... The launch is very fun...and the pictures are taken at launch... Parts of the attraction are great...ride length and excessive braking take away from the overall experience...Perhaps a better ending would end it on a high note instead of a long empty hallway back to the station (Rock n Roller Coaster). Since in the ride, you won against the other team, it could be more of a celebration of victory instead of nothingness...it would help enforce the story...Maybe the queue will tell a better story than the Chinese version ( I don't speak Chinese, so it is probable that I missed quite a bit)... If it tells you anything, Tron was a walk-On the evening we were there but still big lines for Pirates Of The Caribbean ( which moves HUGE volumes of people).
Thanks for sharing your experience with those of us who haven’t had the chance to visit!
 

celluloid

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I never said it wasn't fun... The launch is very fun...and the pictures are taken at launch... Parts of the attraction are great...ride length and excessive braking take away from the overall experience...Perhaps a better ending would end it on a high note instead of a long empty hallway back to the station (Rock n Roller Coaster). Since in the ride, you won against the other team, it could be more of a celebration of victory instead of nothingness...it would help enforce the story...Maybe the queue will tell a better story than the Chinese version ( I don't speak Chinese, so it is probable that I missed quite a bit)... If it tells you anything, Tron was a walk-On the evening we were there but still big lines for Pirates Of The Caribbean ( which moves HUGE volumes of people).

It would have been a perfect opportunity to have it be a dueling coaster where you are always seeming to win or a racing dueling coaster. The iconic scene was a dueling race after all.
This would have of course cost more but it could have been a better capacity and ride experience not only with the pacing, but with the dynamic and kinetic energy of a other light cycle train.
 

lazyboy97o

Well-Known Member
It would have been a perfect opportunity to have it be a dueling coaster where you are always seeming to win or a racing dueling coaster. The iconic scene was a dueling race after all.
This would have of course cost more but it could have been a better capacity and ride experience not only with the pacing, but with the dynamic and kinetic energy of a other light cycle train.
But you see, a roller coaster track costs tens of millions of dollars and this attraction costs hundreds of millions of dollars. The math just doesn't work. Right?
 

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