On layoffs, very bad attendance, and Iger's legacy being one of disgrace

[flynnibus]

Some cast I've met enjoy working for Disney, young, middle age, and elderly. Everyone has a story and a reason to work in the happiest place on earth. Ex-cops that I met love working in the parks.

For many... it's a great alternative compared to their others. I mean.. would you want to be a security guard walking around a commercial warehouse or be one at the MK? If you are going to be a cashier... would you want to work in a place where people are seeking happiness, or be one at the DMV?

But those people are also making choices that the job they have chosen can be made to work for their needs. If it doesn't, it should be on them to do something about it.

 

["El Gran Magnifico"]

I watched a video a week or so back of a woman who was employed by a regional airline. She took the job a decade ago knowing that the pay was not great - but the benefits it provided her and her family (discounted/free airfare) were what led to that decision. Her husband had a good paying job and the incremental revenue she made helped.

Fast Forward a decade and she is now divorced. Trying to sustain herself off of the income she made the decision to take a decade ago. Her job requirements haven't changed. She is not being asked to do "more".

But she feels that because her personal situation has changed it is now the responsibility of her employer to bridge the gap. Sorry, but that's just wrong. And that's not the way it works.

 

[Miss Bella]

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I see your point, but I also see his.

Neither would I, but the dense talking points about economics have been going on this site for years and it more often than not comes across as blatant disdain for people of a lower income bracket, including those who keep WDW running on a day-to-day basis.

Thankfully, most people on this site can see past that and know better. We didn't really need this thread to devolve to that point.

I guess we just interpret it differently. I read it as if you are not happy with your wage and job move on and do something else. It seems like common sense.

 

[Lilofan]

I don't think that's what they are saying at all. I think a lot of the Disney employees, but I've never considered working a ride in the magic kingdom to be a career.

To each his own. Some choose to make a career in their current position, more power to them. Keep making the magic!

 

[Animaniac93-98]

I read it as if you are not happy with your wage and job move on and do something else. It seems like common sense.

As has been discussed previously, life is often not that simple.

Saying "it's common sense" is easy to do from a distance, with a different income and living situation. It's not really helpful, and depending upon the source, sounds condescending.

 

[Animaniac93-98]

I'm not hear to debate the usual talking points.

I'm just tired of the same posters chiming in to say "well ACTUALLY, the RATIONAL response is to..." every chance they get. It was never called for in this thread, where the focus was on the big picture of corporate Disney's response to all of this.

 

[mkt]

If you are going to be a cashier... would you want to work in a place where people are seeking happiness, or be one at the DMV?

DMV employees get government benefits and higher wages than Disney CM's... so.

 

[Miss Bella]

As has been discussed previously, life is often not that simple.

Saying "it's common sense" is easy to do from a distance, with a different income and living situation. It's not really helpful, and depending upon the source, sounds condescending.

Doesn't Disney pay for college or help pay for college. That seems like a really good perk for someone working there.

 

[flynnibus]

DMV employees get government benefits and higher wages than Disney CM's... so.

by that logic - all the CMS should shift to being garbage men too... but we know life shouldn't just be about what position gives you the best wages

 

[mkt]

I guess we just interpret it differently. I read it as if you are not happy with your wage and job move on and do something else. It seems like common sense.

It's not that simple, especially in a city like Orlando, where wages across almost all professions are kept low. The job I do now would literally pay me $20k less/yr if I were to do it in Orlando. A four hour drive away in the same state.

After taxes, that more than covers the difference in cost of living.

 

[mkt]

by that logic - all the CMS should shift to being garbage men too... but we know life shouldn't just be about what position gives you the best wages

Haven't you been arguing about people that want to earn more should get better jobs?

 

[mkt]

Doesn't Disney pay for college or help pay for college. That seems like a really good perk for someone working there.

They had tuition reimbursement when I worked there, but it didn't apply to most CM's.

 

[DVCakaCarlF]

To each his own. Some choose to make a career in their current position, more power to them. Keep making the magic!

With the understanding that their income will be less than?

 

[Miss Bella]

It's not that simple, especially in a city like Orlando, where wages across almost all professions are kept low. The job I do now would literally pay me $20k less/yr if I were to do it in Orlando. A four hour drive away in the same state.

After taxes, that more than covers the difference in cost of living.

I would love to live in Florida, but I won't because I'd have to take a pay cut. We moved out of California to a state with a lower cost of living and a comparable income for my husband. It made life a lot easier.

 

[flynnibus]

Haven't you been arguing about people that want to earn more should get better jobs?

No, I said if people aren't happy with their job - it's on them to do things about it. Not for customers to take pity on them... not for bosses to pay people differently based on their personal lifestyle preferences, etc.

Someone brought up an example of people that do prefer to work for Disney... I acknowledged that's fine because they've made those decisions about what is important to them, and if they can make it work for them, great. If they can't... it's still on them to do something about it.

 

[Miss Bella]

They had tuition reimbursement when I worked there, but it didn't apply to most CM's.

Disney offers to pay full college tuition for hourly workers

The Walt Disney Co. will now offer to pay full tuition for hourly workers who want to earn a college degree or finish a high school diploma, the company announced Wednesday.

www.tampabay.com

I thought it was a new program they started in 2018.

 

[The Mom]

Don’t be afraid to get up and walk. Last year I nearly bought an Audi A6, but when they started to play with the numbers at the F&I office, I got up and walked.

They had already detailed the Audi and moved my license plate and personal belongings over. I made them put everything back.

The internet has made it easier to do this - especially if you're willing to drive a little bit to get a lower priced car in an area with lower overhead for the dealer. The dealers know that you can can look up the "real" price of car, add a reasonable profit for them, and come up with a reasonable price. I also do not finance - through the dealer. I have a "car" CD and use a secured loan for 1/2 of the cost - so I'm getting it at very low interest rate, and the money gets put back into my CD - minus a tiny bit of interest. I only "finance" for 2 years at a time.

I have always been ready to walk if the dealer tries any last minute stuff.

 

[mkt]

Disney offers to pay full college tuition for hourly workers

The Walt Disney Co. will now offer to pay full tuition for hourly workers who want to earn a college degree or finish a high school diploma, the company announced Wednesday.

www.tampabay.com

I thought it was a new program they started in 2018.

They expanded it to cover hourlies in 18. Before then IIRC, it was mostly for salaried and professional CM's.

 

[Lilofan]

With the understanding that their income will be less than?

Personal choices people make and some have second jobs.

 

[mkt]

With the understanding that their income will be less than?

Some CM's have alternate sources of income, a few come from money and don't need to work, some are masters of budgeting and coupon clipping, some jump on every OT shift possible, and others make it work with this + government aid that they qualify for.

And many combinations of this.