On layoffs, very bad attendance, and Iger's legacy being one of disgrace

[mkt]

I still have 2.5 weeks in Northern Europe slated for August...but who am I kidding?

This year's trip was:

2 days in London
10 days in Scandinavia. Fly London to Oslo, buy beater car (we had arranged for a lifted AWD Hyundai H1 diesel van for about $400 that still worked well enough for a 10 day road trip), then road trip through Norway, Sweden, and Denmark.
1 more day in London

 

[Lilofan]

Look at the upside. He got to see the world for free thanks to Disney.

If he sold his passes it's more lucrative

 

[mkt]

Sadly....I’m familiar with that story (modified)

“No means NO!”...except if work for Disney and somebody is stressed out cause it’s 93 degrees and they laid $10,000 for the week.

I felt really bad for the female character performers who'd get groped and wouldn't do a thing about it.

 

[mkt]

If he sold his passes it's more lucrative

Going price back then was $30 for a comp or maingate entrance (per entrance) That was an easy way to supplement income - some CM's I know did that for extra grocery money.

 

[Miss Bella]

Again.. go back to the original post. The poster claimed "But I also reject the notion that everyone should trade in pursuing their dreams in favor of something they don't enjoy just because it is a safer choice"

Just because it's your dream - it doesn't negate reality. Dream jobs aren't necessarily practical... as the other poster who mentioned their art passion so simply illustrated.

Many people let 'dreams' cloud their judgement and get burned. That is on the individual.... now burn me at the stake for saying people have the responsibility to look before they leap.

My parents always told me you don't need to like your job, but you need to make enough money to do the things you like. I envy people that can do their dream job and make good money at it. Most of us work to live not live to work. That being said I do get a lot of satisfaction from being able to pay my bills, save money, and take vacations.

 

[Piebald]

This year's trip was:

2 days in London
10 days in Scandinavia. Fly London to Oslo, buy beater car (we had arranged for a lifted AWD Hyundai H1 diesel van for about $400 that still worked well enough for a 10 day road trip), then road trip through Norway, Sweden, and Denmark.
1 more day in London

My wedding in Italy this year (May) was canceled. The venue I dont believe has returned the money to my in laws. We had also planned on maybe a Japan trip in October.

It was very sad canceling my vacation around April when it became clear the world was going to hell and there would be no wedding. We punted it to next May but havent even taken a second to plan further. Its just not worth the effort right now.

We travel a lot so this has been very difficult for my fiancees mental health. I know it sounds extremely first world problems but planning trips and traveling for her is really something she loves. And now...well we've essentially been home for 4 months and counting.

 

[Stevek]

I got up and almost got away. A few manager types stopped me in the middle of the showroom to find out what happened. I also didn’t have keys to either car, so I’m not sure what my plan would have been had they not stopped me

I got up, was in my car driving away and the salesman ran to catch me. Appreciated the effort but as I told him, you should have made that effort when we were sitting across from each other at the desk.

 

[Miss Bella]

A lot has happened in the last few weeks..what’s your thoughts on this now?
(Seriously)

Nothing that's happened over the last few weeks gives me any clue to what's going to be happening a year from now. It really is a long way off. I know the world cannot survive with everything closed off forever. I try not to let my mind go through all the doom and gloom scenarios.

 

[asianway]

Yes.

To this day, I have a memory burned in my head of one of my colleagues. This was in 2003. He was a character performer, and worked in Disney Character Events, which are the character performers who appear in press, do events off site and travel a lot for the company.

One day I worked an event with him, and he mentioned that with his per diems from traveling, and on average working 60 hours per week the previous year, he earned $43k.

43 grand... for basically giving your life away to the company. And he was already maxed out at the top of the pay scale.

No thanks.

DCE shifts are usually one or two sets, get the 4 hour minimum, and are the plumb assignments. They did well

 

[mkt]

The venue I dont believe has returned the money to my in laws.

We've had to proceed with chargebacks on everything, since airlines and hotels were dragging their feet.

So far, the only pending chargeback is from American Airlines. We already have our money back, but they have until August 5 to respond. Hopefully they don't, and I win the dispute by default.

 

[mkt]

DCE shifts are usually one or two sets, get the 4 hour minimum, and are the plumb assignments. They did well

He was full time DCE in a good height range and traveled a lot for the company. I only ever saw him doing things in the parks once or twice, plus one year he got cast in the Christmas parade.

 

[mkt]

Have you ever been NDA'd as part of a layoff?

Not a traditional NDA, but there was a non disparagement clause in the agreement I signed to get my severance from my previous employer.

 

[asianway]

He was full time DCE in a good height range and traveled a lot for the company. I only ever saw him doing things in the parks once or twice, plus one year he got cast in the Christmas parade.

So....he would get paid 8 hours on the road, get lodging covered, and work maybe 2 hours?

 

[mkt]

So....he would get paid 8 hours on the road, get lodging covered, and work maybe 2 hours?

I think travel time + actual work (with the 4 hour minimum call time), with per diem, and Disney provided lodging. I did a few OT van driver shifts to pick them up at MCO, and they were usually pretty chill.

 

[disneyflush]

A lot has happened in the last few weeks..what’s your thoughts on this now?
(Seriously)

Can I chime in? Not old guard but been here for a few years. Feel like its becoming apparent that we'll never get 100% rid of this Covid19 or the mutations from it because its (a) so contagious and (b) its too early to tell if you can build immunity/get it more than once. I think we can probably make the assumption that a therapeutic will be developed at some point in next 12-18 months, hopefully, and some of the fear will scale back around it. The long-term effects of having it and recovering are still super murky. The therapeutic will ease the liability concerns from the park standpoint and the mask requirement will be lifted. Things like temp checks will likely stick around for 2-3 years for the security optics (much like current bag check stations) at the gate. My concern is more the economic dominoes that will continue to fall at a more exaggerated pace as this continues. Using the Fed as a piggy bank doesn't work forever. 43% of households missed their home payment last month. How much disposable income will be left to head down to the mouse next year with, likely, increasing prices to try and make up for the missed revenue now. Business/convention travel has been forced into an absolute reckoning and I think we've found a lot of value/cost savings in Zoom meetings and calls that continue indefinitely. Old business methods that support behemoths like Coronado Springs will never go back to what they were. A lot of jobs that were lost will not come back. I think some of the gluttony has been trimmed from the American mindset (not all of it or even a significant portion of it but enough to make an impact) and the price gouging displayed the last decade is going to undergo a sanity check for quite a few families. The America in 6 months is going to be substantially bleaker than the one now being propped up by stimulus checks and packages.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

My parents always told me you don't need to like your job, but you need to make enough money to do the things you like. I envy people that can do their dream job and make good money at it. Most of us work to live not live to work. That being said I do get a lot of satisfaction from being able to pay my bills, save money, and take vacations.

I’ve never worked to work a day in my life. I’m not sure what that feels like but I imagine it’s miserable.

I suppose I’m lucky but it’s been incredibly easy for me to get jobs in the fields that I’m passionate about and enjoy.

 

[Phil12]

I’ve never worked to work a day in my life. I’m not sure what that feels like but I imagine it’s miserable.

I suppose I’m lucky but it’s been incredibly easy for me to get jobs in the fields that I’m passionate about and enjoy.

Me too!

 

[flynnibus]

And there it is people, another person who doesn't care and thinks he's brilliant for not doing so.

"there's no work here" -- Move
"I don't like my boss.." -- Look for another job
"I've been making the same money for 5 years" -- What have you done to increase your value? Are you doing the same exact job? Have you pursued advancement? If not, and think you're being denied, have you started to look elsewhere?

OR take the position of "my boss owes me more" (while they do the same exact job).

Sorry, Truth bus just pulled up.. If your job can be replaced by someone else doing the same output in less than 2 weeks - do not expect your income to grow simply because you are good at treading water.

 

[Miss Bella]

"there's no work here" -- Move
"I don't like my boss.." -- Look for another job
"I've been making the same money for 5 years" -- What have you done to increase your value? Are you doing the same exact job? Have you pursued advancement? If not, and think you're being denied, have you started to look elsewhere?

OR take the position of "my boss owes me more" (while they do the same exact job).

Sorry, Truth bus just pulled up.. If your job can be replaced by someone else doing the same output in less than 2 weeks - do not expect your income to grow simply because you are good at treading water.

You make a lot of good points.

 

[Lilofan]

I’ve never worked to work a day in my life. I’m not sure what that feels like but I imagine it’s miserable.

I suppose I’m lucky but it’s been incredibly easy for me to get jobs in the fields that I’m passionate about and enjoy.

A successful manager knows how to delegate to get the work done through his team. Just don't forget to recognize them!