WDW is like BMW.
It's gotten more expensive, somehow sells more, and is somehow a lot worse than it was a decade ago, and that was worse than it was two decades ago.
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On layoffs, very bad attendance, and Iger's legacy being one of disgrace
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WDW is like BMW.
It's gotten more expensive, somehow sells more, and is somehow a lot worse than it was a decade ago, and that was worse than it was two decades ago.
Tom Morrow
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Very few CM's intend to stay frontline, they just end up stuck in it much longer than they were hoping for and assuming.
What happens is CMs get sucked into the toxic culture of WDW's leadership and promotional methods. It's hard to escape because when you've busted your a-- for several years, do you give up and start over? Or do you tough it out because next year might be your big break? It's a very tough cycle to break out of, and it's not always as easy as "well, just do something else/get a different job."
But this stuff is not appropriate for this thread or these times. We're talking about an unprecedented global event that nobody could have thought to prepare for, and no one facing hardships because of it should be criticized for not being prepared for it.
TrainsOfDisney
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This... and this is not at all unique to Disney.
bryanfze55
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Don't worry... there are plenty here that would jump in and tell you that they've been visiting Disney since 2007 and it's the greatest thing ever... you're just being nostalgic
Doesn't matter how many examples you give... They thought them being wowed was as good as it gets.
As someone who didn’t visit until 2015 and has been wrongly labeled as a “pixie-duster” before, I’ll say that I’m certain both Disneyland and WDW (but especially WDW) peaked long before I set foot in either.
The problem is, even if Disney falls so far short of what it could and should be - we live in a world of relativity rather than absolutism, and every other theme park on American soil pretty much sucks.
One would perhaps think that lifers like former execs Al Weiss and George Kalogridis who started working in Disney as teenagers and rose up all the way to the role of WDW President would reverse the decline.
WDI exec Joe Rohde has survived many layoffs. Someone he reports to likes him.
Some forget that office and clerical could be part of the " restructuring " too. If anyone is part time, they would consider getting any work extremely lucky. Not all front line staff are working and are still collecting unemployment ( if they successfully applied online) due to some resorts and others areas still closed or hardly open.
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Tom P.
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No one could have prepared specifically for COVID-19, that's true. But there are certain good general preparations one can be responsible enough to make that will change the outcome of most any crisis.
I'm talking about things like having a sizeable emergency fund, avoiding excessive debt, etc. If someone had minimal debt and 3 months worth of expenses in the bank as an emergency fund, they would have done a lot better when COVID-19 hit than one who has debt up to their eyeballs and no emergency fund.
MrPromey
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When Universal opened here in FL, they didn't come even remotely close... Now days, it feels like they're starting to give Disney a run for their money in part because they've really stepped up their game... and sadly in part, because Disney's apparently decided to meet them in the middle.
MrPromey
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Maybe he's how someone above him tries to maintain credibility.
dreamfinder912
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I hope so, because as much as people view local AP as "cheap" we're all that's willing to go right now. So if you want people in your parks buying your $8 pretzels, let us in.
It depends on the severance agreement on how present you will see it. If they were with the company long enough for that, they can absolutely have an agreement that they not work in the industry for the time. After notice, the employee typically has 21 days to decide if they agree to the terms or not. 7 days after signature to revoke. If you want to look at freelancers on LinkedIn for the more wet behind the ears crowd, you can do that too.
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Joe Rhode has been with the company for decades and in his stature and porftfolio, his severence would be large and likely outweigh the benefit vs many others without having to negotiate. They want to get through the bad time, but not lose more over it.
DDLand
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Your “logic” is pretty recognizable!
I have 2 adult kids working Disney corporate and neither have heard of anyone layed off recently. They both feel that there only a very select few that have any idea what the plans are and they are changing their minds by the hour. The uncertainty is stifling, both are not resigning their leases and just working remotely from "home" until they can get a sense of whats going to happen.
I have to give props to the CEO of Southwest who has been brutally honest about the airline being in "Intensive Care" but is not planning on any layoffs at least through the rest of the year. I wish Disney would be more transparent.
I have to give props to the CEO of Southwest who has been brutally honest about the airline being in "Intensive Care" but is not planning on any layoffs at least through the rest of the year. I wish Disney would be more transparent.
I know someone at Southwest. That's correct on what he advised. Staff are expecting layoffs beginning 2021. "Only a select few" is nice way of putting it. When the smoke clears, Disney will be a whole new organization.
I just pray there isn’t a meaningful second spike. Yes, we had a trip and a cruise cancelled. Disappointing but hey. If Orlando has to go through this all over again, or worse, I don’t want to think what will happen, if it’s either well managed or mismanaged.
I would expect lay-off announcements starting October 1, based solely on that date being when airlines who took government $$$ couldn't lay anyone off until. I have a friend at Delta (where I used to work several years ago) who said they have 17k who took an early out package. Management could be looking for an additional 10k in involuntary layoffs beyond that.
Southwest basically called out their competitors that are planning layoff begining Oct 1 and that they will NOT be doing lay offs until they end of the year. They pride themselves on never having done a layoff which is unheard of in the airline industry.
www.foxbusiness.com
Southwest CEO: No layoffs, furloughs on Oct. 1
In a letter to employees obtained by FOX Business, Southwest chairman and CEO Gary Kelly vowed that the airline will not furlough or layoff any of its employees on Oct. 1.
www.foxbusiness.com