On layoffs, very bad attendance, and Iger's legacy being one of disgrace

[Brer Oswald]

A completely unscientific survey on where guests are visiting from right now.

I didn’t even touch that screen before the pandemic

 

[eliza61nyc]

Orlando is built around travel. Even the chamber of commerce - known internationally as the “we’re all gonna be rich!” Pep rally squad - admits that Orlando cannot survive without tourism.

With roots in New Orleans, my family found that out after Katrina

 

[dreamfinder912]

The plan was to have lowered capacity, but they were expecting to max out that capacity. They're not even coming close, which is why attendance is a serious problem.

I'm only on page 29 of now 79 so I know it's been said before and it will likely be said again somewhere before this post, but AP availability is garbage. I'm sure they'd hit closer to the target numbers if they released dates to APs. Give all the wiggle room to your resort guests up to say 1 week before their visit. and then dump their excess into the AP slot, and the parks will fill with people who would love to go and face no out of state restrictions but can't because the park passes just aren't there.

 

[MerlinTheGoat]

Wow, also does this guy have something against Disney or something after that video about Iger and Disney?

I don't think he actually knows or cares much about Disney beyond perhaps the Marvel and Star Wars IPs. I'm not certain. But I can say it isn't Disney specific by any stretch and he targets a broad spectrum of people, companies etc. I can't really elaborate further because it's extremely political and involves other words and topics inappropriate for this site (I don't enjoy going to the politics section either). Even my previous post is stretching it and I won't be surprised if it's deleted.

 

[MickeyLuv'r]

Orlando is built around travel. Even the chamber of commerce - known internationally as the “we’re all gonna be rich!” Pep rally squad - admits that Orlando cannot survive without tourism.

Okay, #1, WDW isn't technically located in Orlando proper. It is located in Bay Lake and and Lake Buena Vista, FL. Universal is in Orlando. So if we are going to talk about the Orlando economy, but want to talk about WDW, then we need to clarify what area we're talking about: Orlando proper, or the Orlando area.

#2. People who work for WDW covers a broader living area.


Here's the breakdown according to the Orlando business website:
Leisure& Hosp 20.4%
Professional & business services 18.7%
Education & Health 11.9%
Retail Trade 11.2%
Gov't 9.8%
Construction 6.6%
Finance 5.7%
Manufacturing 3.7%
Wholesale Trade 3.3%
Transportation 3.2%

Fortune 1000 Companies Headquartered in Orlando: Publix, Darden, Harris, Wyndham, Tupperware.
Some Fortune 500 companies with operations/major manufacturing operations in Orlando: Lockheed Martin (5000+), Northrop Grumman, Aerojet Rocketdyne (1000+), Thales, L3Harris, leidos (500+), Blue Origin , Kaman ( no number = the number of area employees was not specified on website)

Additional companies with facilities in Orlando : Mitsubishi (500+), AAA (500+), Electronic Arts (500+), Accenture (100,000+), Acredo (1000+), ADP (50,000), Advent Health (50,000+), Publix (10,000+), HCA healthcare (10,000+), University of Central FL (5,000+),Holiday Retirement (5,000+), Goodwill (5,000+), Darden (5,000+), Siemens (1000+)

WDW (50,000+) Universal (10,000+) Seas World (5,000+)

The area is also looking to become a hub for Advanced Manufacturing: Amcor (packaging) AMD (semicondiuctors), FARO (3D measurement and imaging), Regal Boats, Siemens (all kinds of stuff- power), VOXX (electronics)

To clarify, the website listed # of employees by range, I gave the low end #'s. So 100,000 is really 10,000-50,000 employees and 1,000 is really 1,000-5,000 employees.

 

[PhotoDave219]

State political pressure isn’t why they are open. They planned on having Disneyland open now, and that wasn’t because of state political pressure. It is the economic pressure of operating a business that lost their biggest sources of revenue that caused them to open and is keeping them open.

Thanks for playing, we've some lovely parting gifts for you.....

 

[PhotoDave219]

I joined this conversation mid-stream and did not make any comment whatsoever about evictions or COVID.

You had this reputation when I left four years ago. You're still the same. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[CaptainAmerica]

You had this reputation when I left four years ago. You're still the same. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Spell it out, be specific.

 

[Animaniac93-98]

You had this reputation when I left four years ago. You're still the same. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[Lilofan]

Okay, #1, WDW isn't technically located in Orlando proper. It is located in Bay Lake and and Lake Buena Vista, FL. Universal is in Orlando. So if we are going to talk about the Orlando economy, but want to talk about WDW, then we need to clarify what area we're talking about: Orlando proper, or the Orlando area.

#2. People who work for WDW covers a broader living area.


Here's the breakdown according to the Orlando business website:
Leisure& Hosp 20.4%
Professional & business services 18.7%
Education & Health 11.9%
Retail Trade 11.2%
Gov't 9.8%
Construction 6.6%
Finance 5.7%
Manufacturing 3.7%
Wholesale Trade 3.3%
Transportation 3.2%

Fortune 1000 Companies Headquartered in Orlando: Publix, Darden, Harris, Wyndham, Tupperware.
Some Fortune 500 companies with operations/major manufacturing operations in Orlando: Lockheed Martin (5000+), Northrop Grumman, Aerojet Rocketdyne (1000+), Thales, L3Harris, leidos (500+), Blue Origin , Kaman ( no number = the number of area employees was not specified on website)

Additional companies with facilities in Orlando : Mitsubishi (500+), AAA (500+), Electronic Arts (500+), Accenture (100,000+), Acredo (1000+), ADP (50,000), Advent Health (50,000+), Publix (10,000+), HCA healthcare (10,000+), University of Central FL (5,000+),Holiday Retirement (5,000+), Goodwill (5,000+), Darden (5,000+), Siemens (1000+)

WDW (50,000+) Universal (10,000+) Seas World (5,000+)

The area is also looking to become a hub for Advanced Manufacturing: Amcor (packaging) AMD (semicondiuctors), FARO (3D measurement and imaging), Regal Boats, Siemens (all kinds of stuff- power), VOXX (electronics)

To clarify, the website listed # of employees by range, I gave the low end #'s. So 100,000 is really 10,000-50,000 employees and 1,000 is really 1,000-5,000 employees.

Nice facts but everything revolves around WDW and tourism central Orlando whether directly working for Disney and tourism partners or indirectly.

 

[Animaniac93-98]

Nice facts but everything revolves around WDW and tourism central Orlando whether directly working for Disney and tourism partners or indirectly.

I would think in this example, both transportation and construction rely heavily on hospitality.

 

[Animaniac93-98]

It's unfortunately a recurring theme here with @CaptainAmerica and several others.

Thank you to those calling this out. It's usually in poor taste, but especially now given the global depression that's happening.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Okay, #1, WDW isn't technically located in Orlando proper. It is located in Bay Lake and and Lake Buena Vista, FL. Universal is in Orlando. So if we are going to talk about the Orlando economy, but want to talk about WDW, then we need to clarify what area we're talking about: Orlando proper, or the Orlando area.

#2. People who work for WDW covers a broader living area.


Here's the breakdown according to the Orlando business website:
Leisure& Hosp 20.4%
Professional & business services 18.7%
Education & Health 11.9%
Retail Trade 11.2%
Gov't 9.8%
Construction 6.6%
Finance 5.7%
Manufacturing 3.7%
Wholesale Trade 3.3%
Transportation 3.2%

Fortune 1000 Companies Headquartered in Orlando: Publix, Darden, Harris, Wyndham, Tupperware.
Some Fortune 500 companies with operations/major manufacturing operations in Orlando: Lockheed Martin (5000+), Northrop Grumman, Aerojet Rocketdyne (1000+), Thales, L3Harris, leidos (500+), Blue Origin , Kaman ( no number = the number of area employees was not specified on website)

Additional companies with facilities in Orlando : Mitsubishi (500+), AAA (500+), Electronic Arts (500+), Accenture (100,000+), Acredo (1000+), ADP (50,000), Advent Health (50,000+), Publix (10,000+), HCA healthcare (10,000+), University of Central FL (5,000+),Holiday Retirement (5,000+), Goodwill (5,000+), Darden (5,000+), Siemens (1000+)

WDW (50,000+) Universal (10,000+) Seas World (5,000+)

The area is also looking to become a hub for Advanced Manufacturing: Amcor (packaging) AMD (semicondiuctors), FARO (3D measurement and imaging), Regal Boats, Siemens (all kinds of stuff- power), VOXX (electronics)

To clarify, the website listed # of employees by range, I gave the low end #'s. So 100,000 is really 10,000-50,000 employees and 1,000 is really 1,000-5,000 employees.

Oh good god...

You aren’t seriously this bored, are you Mayor Dyer?!?

This has been battled for decades...since roughly 1964...the modern Orlando was built by travel and is tied to it. It’s the “trunk” of the tree. Because it “branched” out...doesn’t mean it doesn’t depend on it.

This is the same argument made by ever sleepy town that is home to a gigantic university.

The city council pushes ordinances to make money off the kids and then when pushed that they need them say “this town would exist without _____ University”

Yeah...it would be lucky to have an Arby’s.


This is nonsense. Orlando is crushed in recessions because travel is cut immediately and heavily. And here it comes.

Not the end of the world...but don’t lie to yourself.

Oh...and they’re medical companies? In Florida?
Really an “upset” to get those in town, huh?

...I need a drink. You need a couple.

 

[Sir_Cliff]

A completely unscientific survey on where guests are visiting from right now.

Well I guess at least a decent amount of people are still visiting from Cuba!

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

A completely unscientific survey on where guests are visiting from right now.

I love it...it’s a “scientific” as were gonna get under the circumstances.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Guy I'M A #@&$ING CAST MEMBER. But yeah I totally hate cast members. Holy hell you guys are oblivious.

What kind of beer? I’ll send you a case.

Gotta get you calmed down, hulk

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

A surprising number of people that do have high paying jobs are hopelessly incompetent.

I work in an architectural/engineering firm...

You think I doubt you?

 

[ElvisMickey]

I'm only on page 29 of now 79 so I know it's been said before and it will likely be said again somewhere before this post, but AP availability is garbage. I'm sure they'd hit closer to the target numbers if they released dates to APs. Give all the wiggle room to your resort guests up to say 1 week before their visit. and then dump their excess into the AP slot, and the parks will fill with people who would love to go and face no out of state restrictions but can't because the park passes just aren't there.

I decided to play around with the app a little while ago. According to the availability calendar, there is no availability for APs tomorrow. However, if I try to reserve a spot for the Magic Kingdom, it’s letting me. Now, I know that tomorrow is a little bit of a different day with the storm rolling in, but I also wonder if they’re beginning to open things up for AP holders last minute if the demand isn’t there.

 

[Brer Panther]

I remember when it was new. The water effects really bothered me for some reason.

I remember being miffed that Mickey and Goofy didn't come along on Donald's magical adventure through musical numbers from various Disney movies.

 

[mwf5555]

FYI, layoffs have commenced at WD P&R.

I’m not able to disclose more at this time. But anyone with peeps at Team Disney can find out what’s up.

Team Disney FL? Can you at least hint how the cast are being notified that are still on furlough (like me)? Phone call? email? certified mail? text? thanks for more anxiety...