On layoffs, very bad attendance, and Iger's legacy being one of disgrace

FettFan

FettFan

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HauntedMansionFLA said:
Because Ken and Barbie with kids are competing against their friends on who can have the most lavish “magical” family vacation with staged photos on over The Facebook / Instagram pages. One family trying to outdo the other family.
A family I know asked if it’s worth it and I said no. I explained all of the planning and crowds levels.
They had a great time at Holiday World in Santa Claus, Indiana. Better water park and three if the best wooden roller coasters. Better quality at the fraction of the cost.
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I know if I were a millionaire right now, I would totally invest in starting a decent regional theme park here in Louisiana.
While my last trip was fun enough, it was more because of the people I was with than the Walt Disney World experience as a whole.
 
tirian

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wdwmagic said:
I've been told the property as a whole is profitable right now, but just, and is improving for the most part.

Some areas are performing better than expected, others are below - particularly EPCOT. This shouldn't really come as a surprise, as the park operated as a park-hop due to its limited headline attractions. All attention is on the Studios for most guests, and of course MK is always a popular choice.

Here is a photo walk around EPCCOT yesterday, around midday. Shots are not designed to emphasize high or low guest numbers, just the view as it happened.

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Walk-through of EPCOT July 29 2020

Walk-through of EPCOT July 29 2020
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Numbers are not in the hundreds, but way below the 10,000+ goal. I'm told some type of attendance driver is being looked at.
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It’s one heck of an NBA contract propping up the resort. ;)
 
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Sirwalterraleigh

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tirian said:
It’s one heck of an NBA contract propping up the resort.
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That’s why both sides were so adamant about that bubble for the start.

Disney pays a multi billion dollar contract from one department...and “collects” the costs/fees and throws that in P&R.

Completed legal number skewing. Smart.
 
tirian

tirian

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Sirwalterraleigh said:
That’s why both sides were so adamant about that bubble for the start.

Disney pays a multi billion dollar contract from one department...and “collects” the costs/fees and throws that in P&R.

Completed legal number skewing. Smart.
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Exactly. I don’t know how much money it really brings in, though.
 
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RSoxNo1

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wdwmagic said:
I've been told the property as a whole is profitable right now, but just, and is improving for the most part.

Some areas are performing better than expected, others are below - particularly EPCOT. This shouldn't really come as a surprise, as the park operated as a park-hop due to its limited headline attractions. All attention is on the Studios for most guests, and of course MK is always a popular choice.

Here is a photo walk around EPCCOT yesterday, around midday. Shots are not designed to emphasize high or low guest numbers, just the view as it happened.

www.wdwmagic.com

Walk-through of EPCOT July 29 2020

Walk-through of EPCOT July 29 2020
www.wdwmagic.com www.wdwmagic.com

Numbers are not in the hundreds, but way below the 10,000+ goal. I'm told some type of attendance driver is being looked at.
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How much of this is a function of the NBA and MLS money? I have to imagine that's anchoring this whole thing.
 
RSoxNo1

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PhotoDave219 said:
We're on a secret email list. We get our marching orders from Michael Eisner.
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I'm about 70% sure that @pheneix is Michael Eisner.

In all seriousness, I know he's been a long time poster here but if you look back at the threads that @pheneix has posted in, he shows up when things are bad. I don't think it negates the content of the original post or subsequent discussion, but there is an agenda to the posts.
 
MerlinTheGoat

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tirian said:
Lol, I just didn’t know whether I would break forum rules by posting links. I will DM you too, but anyone else can simply search YouTube for “Fire Bob Iger” and “Disney Rumors.”
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The only results I found were from Clownfish TV and Geeks+Gamers. Just a tip for those unfamiliar with them, these chuds are part of the obnoxious "Fandom Menace" group that have been spamming the same videos about how Kathleen Kennedy has been fired for the last 3 years, and that Brie Larsen has somehow taken over Marvel and is trying to destroy it. This will have been one of the only legitimate rumors these morons ever reported on, just figured i'd warn people in case they're tempted to fall down the rabbit hole and watch more of their content.
 
Rosso11

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UNCgolf said:
Those states (mainly New Jersey, New York, Pennsylvania, and Ohio) are definitely a significant portion of the WDW base, but I doubt they're the majority. Not that it really matters -- I'm actually curious about this now, though, and wonder if there's a breakdown somewhere of visitors by state.
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If I’m remembering correctly and since you’re curious these were the top 5 out of state visitors when I worked at Disney. But this was well over a decade ago, actually closer to 2 decades now, so it might have changed somewhat but I doubt much.
1. New York
2. New Jersey
3. Massachusetts
4. Connecticut
5. Texas
 
EricsBiscuit

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Sirwalterraleigh said:
Not have a park they let rot for 25+ years that’s entirely dependent on meat market festivals with food booths and 80’s bands?
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Woah woah woah! Hold your horses. I remember the first time I saw Starship as a young bootstrapping whippersnapper and I loved it. I have been a fan ever since. Mickey Thomas has been singing “nothing’s gonna stop us” at WDW since before it was cool 😎.
 
Sirwalterraleigh

Sirwalterraleigh

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RSoxNo1 said:
I'm about 70% sure that @pheneix is Michael Eisner.

In all seriousness, I know he's been a long time poster here but if you look back at the threads that @pheneix has posted in, he shows up when things are bad. I don't think it negates the content of the original post or subsequent discussion, but there is an agenda to the posts.
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I gotta follow this guy...

Let me know when you get to 88% sure on the dial, Marty McFly
Rosso11 said:
If I’m remembering correctly and since you’re curious these were the top 5 out of state visitors when I worked at Disney. But this was well over a decade ago, actually closer to 2 decades now, so it might have changed somewhat but I doubt much.
1. New York
2. New Jersey
3. Massachusetts
4. Connecticut
5. Texas
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Swap Pennsylvania for Connecticut and you’re about right...

Ontario, southern Canada
Illinois
Massachusetts
Maryland
Virginia
Ohio
Michigan


...basically the Atlantic seaboard and the rust belt are the heavy hitters.

And exactly why Disney is in some trouble here in Florida. Neither the virus nor the political tinge put on it is breaking their way.

They know it.

Or if they’re watching:
1. You KNOW it
2. I KNOW it
3. Best get on those discounts ASAP.
 

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