The only results I found were from Clownfish TV and Geeks+Gamers. Just a tip for those unfamiliar with them, these chuds are part of the obnoxious "Fandom Menace" group that have been spamming the same videos about how Kathleen Kennedy has been fired for the last 3 years, and that Brie Larsen has somehow taken over Marvel and is trying to destroy it. This will have been one of the only legitimate rumors these morons ever reported on, just figured i'd warn people in case they're tempted to fall down the rabbit hole and watch more of their content.Lol, I just didn’t know whether I would break forum rules by posting links. I will DM you too, but anyone else can simply search YouTube for “Fire Bob Iger” and “Disney Rumors.”
If I’m remembering correctly and since you’re curious these were the top 5 out of state visitors when I worked at Disney. But this was well over a decade ago, actually closer to 2 decades now, so it might have changed somewhat but I doubt much.Those states (mainly New Jersey, New York, Pennsylvania, and Ohio) are definitely a significant portion of the WDW base, but I doubt they're the majority. Not that it really matters -- I'm actually curious about this now, though, and wonder if there's a breakdown somewhere of visitors by state.
Woah woah woah! Hold your horses. I remember the first time I saw Starship as a young bootstrapping whippersnapper and I loved it. I have been a fan ever since. Mickey Thomas has been singing “nothing’s gonna stop us” at WDW since before it was cool .Not have a park they let rot for 25+ years that’s entirely dependent on meat market festivals with food booths and 80’s bands?
I gotta follow this guy...I'm about 70% sure that @pheneix is Michael Eisner.
In all seriousness, I know he's been a long time poster here but if you look back at the threads that @pheneix has posted in, he shows up when things are bad. I don't think it negates the content of the original post or subsequent discussion, but there is an agenda to the posts.
Swap Pennsylvania for Connecticut and you’re about right...If I’m remembering correctly and since you’re curious these were the top 5 out of state visitors when I worked at Disney. But this was well over a decade ago, actually closer to 2 decades now, so it might have changed somewhat but I doubt much.
1. New York
2. New Jersey
They’re nothing since grace retiredWoah woah woah! Hold your horses. I remember the first time I saw Starship as a young bootstrapping whippersnapper and I loved it. I have been a fan ever since. Mickey Thomas has been singing “nothing’s gonna stop us” at WDW since before it was cool .
Actually, WDW opened during a time of widespread social unrest - against the war in Vietnam.I've spent the last few weeks wondering if there's also another component at play driving uncertainty in the travel market... as if Covid wasn't enough.
Never in WDW history has there been a time of widespread social unrest. It went mostly unnoticed due to the parks still being closed, but in early June WDW operations were modified by adjusting hours at the just-reopened Springs to respect the Orange county curfew in response to ongoing protests. If the parks had been open, highly visible adjustments in hours probably would have to have been made.
Without making this line of discussion overtly political, I think it's fair to say that we are all currently operating under a very heightened sense of uncertainty with regards too many issues here in America that have yet to be fully resolved. Covid is amplifying and precipitating some of these issues, but even without it there may have been measurable disruption already due to significant events of the past few months. Agree with it or not, one can not consider everything 'perfectly fine' with the American tourism industry - especially its international standing and stability - when key tourist destinations in our nations capital and other well-recognized cities continue to make dramatic international headlines with very graphic pictures involving protests and unrest.
WDW itself can probably itself be considered a well protected bubble from this 'real world' issue, I highly doubt any significant protest would have been allowed to occur on property... but the decisions and discussion regarding Splash and other socially 'awkward' attractions proves that the Walt Disney company considers these issues highly significant. Their motivations in 'doing something' are not only because of key personal ambitions to be on the right side of history, but are also likely driven by very real business motivations in telegraphing that Disney World is not really part of the "America" you're currently seeing in those uncomfortable pictures. As always, they would like to sell it as a safe place, both physically and culturally.
If Covid didn't happen, I believe there still would have been a softening of international travel specifically in response to the protests... and possibly a very rapid pull back in some segments of domestic and business travel as well. As we inch closer to certain key dates in our democratic process, I think there are very real questions on a lot of peoples minds over what exactly could happen, how some of this is going to play out, and possibly how close to home you'd prefer to be when it might. I don't know how this would have translated to summer vacation attendance at the parks, or if it would have made little more than a blip on fall & winter resort bookings... Frankly, it's uncharted territory just as much as Covid is.
If I’m remembering correctly and since you’re curious these were the top 5 out of state visitors when I worked at Disney. But this was well over a decade ago, actually closer to 2 decades now, so it might have changed somewhat but I doubt much.
1. New York
2. New Jersey
How much of this is a function of the NBA and MLS money? I have to imagine that's anchoring this whole thing.
I was shocked when they reopened Epcot. Shocked. You can look at my post history where I incorrectly predicted Epcot would remain closed for the next year. Bringing that park back online was utter madness. It is in terrible shape, and COVID has nerfed the nightlife and other cool experiences. The glue holding Epcot afloat vanished. Right now Epcot is only cannibalizing the other parks.Not have a park they let rot for 25+ years that’s entirely dependent on meat market festivals with food booths and 80’s bands?
A couple businesses that might be helping Walt Disney World right now...Disney is straight up using quantum math to claim this operation is profitable. It is not. We all see the deserted theme parks and lack of guest spending. Yet, there's many Disney spinsters trying to tell us that what we see isn't really what we see. They're good at that. Look at the failed opening of Galaxy's Edge and the continued online bickering over "how bad it did."
Despite other "insiders" (not a dig at Steve *at all* cause I have my own "alternative" connects claiming the same) saying attendance is not in the hundreds," I mean... we see what these parks look like. You can certainly pull the entire day's chart and find that a few thousand ppl wandered thru the gates. They don't stay long. By 4pm every park is lucky to still have a thousand in park. On most days. its rotten luck!
They got hotel occupancy in the teens yet their transit system is getting worked like the 4th of July every day because of COVID ops. By Disney's own math alone -- baking transportation costs into room rates -- they really screwed this.
I'm not really here... Nice to see you too.
Wait...how did they "push splash merch" on the ebay resellers?? That's not how it works. When they opened the ebay sellers just went in and bought everything up because Disney made the splash refurb announcement so ebay resellers knew splash merch would be hot. How is that Disney pushing it on them? Sure Disney made sure to have plenty of Splash Merch stocked up due to the announcement but it's not like Disney themselves announced a Splash Mountain sale merch or something. So can you please explain your statement?
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