Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[Miss Bella]

Do you think it’s unreasonable to want you to miss your vacation right now so a dangerous disease can be controlled, the economy can recover, and other people AND YOU can take the vacations they want?

If I thought WDW remaining closed would eradicate Covid I might agree with you. Theres been no evidence that theme parks are dangerous.

 

[Andrew C]

Rugged individualism usually went hand-in-hand with the personal obligation to protect the vulnerable. That’s kind of the point of almost every western ever made.

This is shown everyday in society. Whether it gets reported or not.

 

[Miss Bella]

On that note, anyone think there will be protestors on opening day protesting the park opening?

Oh wouldn’t that be ironic.

 

[mickey0825]

Do you think it’s unreasonable to want you to miss your vacation right now so a dangerous disease can be controlled, the economy can recover, and other people AND YOU can take the vacations they want?

But when is that?? Is that 3 months from now??? 6 months from now? a year?? two years??? Three years???? I believe we have to start living our lives

 

[Casper Gutman]

Wait a minute...youre actually comparing driving drunk to visiting Disney World during this time? This is why these debates are inane...people just say the most ridiculous things when they have no other rational response. Youre now comparing committing a crime to making an educated decision on if you want to go to WDW...why dont you just say we tell people you cant murder one another..Just moronic

You realize that someone who engages in risky behavior right now - like going to WDW - is endangering others, right? The argument is very similar to drunk driving and not at all like murder. A murderer intentionally inflicts injury on someone else. A drunk driver can delude themselves that they are only risking themselves - after all, they’re alone in the car right? Or if anyone else is in the car, they know the risks. It’s a personal choice!

 

[mickey0825]

You realize that someone who engages in risky behavior right now - like going to WDW - is endangering others, right? The argument is very similar to drunk driving and not at all like murder. A murderer intentionally inflicts injury on someone else. A drunk driver can delude themselves that they are only risking themselves - after all, they’re alone in the car right? Or if anyone else is in the car, they know the risks. It’s a personal choice!

The drunk driving argument is used over and over again....making a conscious choice to get behind the wheel drunk is a ridiculous comparison to someone making a decision to go to WDW.

 

[Casper Gutman]

But when is that?? Is that 3 months from now??? 6 months from now? a year?? two years??? Three years???? I believe we have to start living our lives

We don’t know exactly. But if everyone acted responsibly, it would be a lot sooner. It could have been now. If we were in South Korea - or any number of other nations - going to a theme park would be much less reckless. We can do it. But we have to behave differently.

Everyone wants normalcy. I want normalcy. But these aren’t normal times. These are “entire bookshelves in the history section” times. These are “what did you do during that time, grandpa?” times. We don’t get normalcy until we acknowledge that. A lot of people haven’t.

 

[Casper Gutman]

The drunk driving argument is used over and over again....making a conscious choice to get behind the wheel drunk is a ridiculous comparison to someone making a decision to go to WDW.

Why?

 

[Andrew C]

We don’t know exactly. But if everyone acted responsibly, it would be a lot sooner. It could have been now. If we were in South Korea - or any number of other nations - going to a theme park would be much less reckless. We can do it. But we have to behave differently.

Everyone wants normalcy. I want normalcy. But these aren’t normal times. These are “entire bookshelves in the history section” times. These are “what did you do during that time, grandpa?” times. We don’t get normalcy until we acknowledge that. A lot of people haven’t.

Are you done with the shaming, lecturing and “you do realize” statements now? Pretty sure you made your point that anyone going to WDW is a selfish person who is endangering the lives of others.

 

[mickey0825]

We don’t know exactly. But if everyone acted responsibly, it would be a lot sooner. It could have been now. If we were in South Korea - or any number of other nations - going to a theme park would be much less reckless. We can do it. But we have to behave differently.

Everyone wants normalcy. I want normalcy. But these aren’t normal times. These are “entire bookshelves in the history section” times. These are “what did you do during that time, grandpa?” times. We don’t get normalcy until we acknowledge that. A lot of people haven’t.

Again, you can't compare a nation like South Korea to ours...its comparing a town in Idaho to New York City...it makes no sense...it's apples and oranges....If you are that scared, stay in your home...no one will infect you...Many are taking this very seriously, acting responsibly and going on with their lives. They wear masks, socially distant, and quarantine if needed...that is their choice and following all the medical recommendations....its everyone's choice. No one gets to dictate that

 

[TeriofTerror]

Random question: Are any of you Agatha Christie fans? This conversation keeps reminding me of The Mirror Crack'd from Side to Side. I would describe it as a cautionary tale to anyone who would recklessly expose others to an infectious disease.

 

[Casper Gutman]

Again, you can't compare a nation like South Korea to ours...its comparing a town in Idaho to New York City...it makes no sense...it's apples and oranges....If you are that scared, stay in your home...no one will infect you...Many are taking this very seriously, acting responsibly and going on with their lives. They wear masks, socially distant, and quarantine if needed...that is their choice and following all the medical recommendations....its everyone's choice. No one gets to dictate that

Can we compare the entirety of the EU to the USA?

 

[lazyboy97o]

Again, you can't compare a nation like South Korea to ours...its comparing a town in Idaho to New York City...it makes no sense...it's apples and oranges....If you are that scared, stay in your home...no one will infect you...Many are taking this very seriously, acting responsibly and going on with their lives. They wear masks, socially distant, and quarantine if needed...that is their choice and following all the medical recommendations....its everyone's choice. No one gets to dictate that

This is just bullocks. The comparison is between the US and the rest of the developed world. More people in more places. The US is the outlier. What is happening here is not just the way things are, they are an exception and a bad one at that.

 

[milordsloth]

These are “what did you do during that time, grandpa?” times.

I think going to opening day of wdw during a pandemic will be a great story to grandkids

 

[Miss Bella]

You realize that someone who engages in risky behavior right now - like going to WDW - is endangering others, right? The argument is very similar to drunk driving and not at all like murder. A murderer intentionally inflicts injury on someone else. A drunk driver can delude themselves that they are only risking themselves - after all, they’re alone in the car right? Or if anyone else is in the car, they know the risks. It’s a personal choice!

I might get behind shutting things down as long as it included Costco, Walmart, Target, grocery stores and every other big box store. Until someone can prove to me that standing in line for a ride at WDW is more dangerous than standing in line at Costco I'll never be behind these arbitrary shutdowns.

 

[Miss Bella]

Can we compare the entirety of the EU to the USA?

Many countries in Europe have more deaths per 100k than the US.

 

[Casper Gutman]

I might get behind shutting things down as long as it included Costco, Walmart, Target, grocery stores and every other big box store. Until someone can prove to me that standing in line for a ride at WDW is more dangerous than standing in line at Costco. I'll never be behind these arbitrary shutdowns.

Do you consider going to a theme park to be as essential as buying food to eat? Also, how many hours over how many days do you stay in Costco? More or less time then your average vacation? Do you fly to Costco and stay in a hotel?

 

[Miss Bella]

Do you consider going to a theme park to be as essential as buying food to eat? Also, how many hours over how many days do you stay in Costco? More or less time then your average vacation? Do you fly to Costco and stay in a hotel?

WDW has been closed and cases are rising so we know it's not being caused by WDW.

 

[Casper Gutman]

Many countries in Europe have more deaths per 100k than the US.

This is true but isn’t really relevant to how fast covid is spreading right now and, thus, whether it is responsible to reopen theme parks right now.

 

[Miss Bella]

This is true but isn’t really relevant to how fast covid is spreading right now and, thus, whether it is responsible to reopen theme parks right now.

If WDW opens and cases remain constant then case closed.