You realize NYC alone has 30x more deaths than the entire state of Florida?
Yes, but it is early in Florida with this spike. Check back in 3 months.
You realize NYC alone has 30x more deaths than the entire state of Florida?
First someone has to feel sick enough to get tested which can take up to 2 weeks. Then they have to wait for results which can take approximately 5 days. Then they have to get sick enough to be hospitalized which can take another 1-3 weeks...give or take. Then they have to become Ill enough to result in a death which can take another week or two.
You realize NYC alone has 30x more deaths than the entire state of Florida?
So, you're saying we haven't seen an uptick in deaths yet because of 2 weeks before wanting to get the test, 1 week for result, 3 weeks to go to hospital...
That's a stretch for sure.
The median age is lower and we have more experience and better treatments available. The mortality rate will be lower. Just as there are side effects not as obvious as a result of having the virus, there are also side effects of our response to the virus. It’s time to reopen. For the hundreds of thousands who rely on Disney for work, directly or indirectly, the parks can’t reopen quick enough.Two issues with this...
1) We aren't going to see deaths related to this spike for at least another couple weeks. First someone has to feel sick enough to get tested which can take up to 2 weeks. Then they have to wait for results which can take approximately 5 days. Then they have to get sick enough to be hospitalized which can take another 1-3 weeks...give or take. Then they have to become Ill enough to result in a death which can take another week or two. Granted some cases result in death much faster than this... some slower...so I'm speaking on what's been common as far as time period from point of testing to an unfortunate resulting death. Keep in mind..there are many of those dying after "recovery" of stroke and heart attack due to the thickening effects this has on the blood.
2) It's not just the deaths that are serious..it's the long term, and possibly permanent illness/damage this can create on the human body. There are many reporting kidney damage, neurological damage, heart damage, lung damage among many other serious issues after "recovery". The majority of these people were healthy up until that point and now suffer from potentially life long illness or injury. To me that's just as serious as death. It's a loss of quality of life... as well as a huge financial change for them as well.
No its not at all. Do you really think someone tests positive for this and then dies the next day...or even a week or two after? That's not how these things work in a typical sense. It takes time to attack the body drastically and thoroughly enough to result in a death. It doesn't happen over night.
My only advice is don’t rush back to wdw unless you’re a local. There is no reason anyone should be traveling to FL right now and potentially bring it back to their communities.
HA! 3 months.Yes, but it is early in Florida with this spike. Check back in 3 months.
Not quite accurate.You realize NYC alone has 30x more deaths than the entire state of Florida?
There will literally never be contact tracing to that degree in the USA. The right to privacy has been very broadly interpreted in the past and HIPAA, which came decades after that explicitly protects medical information.I don't think so. The core element of the Shanghai opening was the contract tracing/clean bill of health app that meant you couldn't get a park entry unless you could show "green" on the no contact with COVID screening. WDW (and the U.S.) doesn't have anything like that and is not likely to have such a level of contract tracing in 2020.
Maybe they have, but we'll never know as the official numbers from China are a cynical deception coming from a corrupt communist dictatorship, that nobody in there right mind believes.
No again, the numbers coming out of China are a steaming pile of BS, so we'll never know the truth.
Then why is there no significant increase in the number of hospitalizations?The change in the median is only useful if case numbers were mostly stagnant. It is another disingenuous narrative and metric being peddled. Cases have increased nearly 10-fold in the last month.
Yes PROPORTIONALLY younger demographics have increased, but older demographics have also increased by a significant multiplier as well, just not as insane.
Like symptoms at time of testing (which they don't publish), this is just another means of massaging data.
The reality is significantly more symptomatic at risk population are being diagnosed today than a month ago. Like 4-5x more. But that doesn't sound good.
Why? If the procedures they are putting in place were determined to be safe with 1,000 new cases per day in the state then why don't they work with 9,000 new cases?At this point they really should delay reopening.
Medical information can be shared with public health agencies without an authorized release. HIPPA allows for this, for the express purpose of tracking epidemics.There will literally never be contact tracing to that degree in the USA. The right to privacy has been very broadly interpreted in the past and HIPAA, which came decades after that explicitly protects medical information.
Exactly. We're supposed to believe that after a day with 12 new cases they are triggered to lock down a city?
Then why is there no significant increase in the number of hospitalizations?
Or, as in the overwhelming majority of cases, they experience little to no symptoms and get better and go on with their lives.No its not at all. Do you really think someone tests positive for this and then dies the next day...or even a week or two after? That's not how these things work in a typical sense. It takes time to attack the body drastically and thoroughly enough to result in a death. It doesn't happen over night.
But not before potentially and inadvertently infecting a number of others, including elderly and the more vulnerable.Or, as in the overwhelming majority of cases, they experience little to no symptoms and get better and go on with their lives.
And short of forcing everyone to isolate themselves in a bubble, there is nothing that can be done about it. People that are determined to be infected, isolate for 14 days and move on.But not before potentially and inadvertently infecting a number of others, including elderly and the more vulnerable.
Why? If the procedures they are putting in place were determined to be safe with 1,000 new cases per day in the state then why don't they work with 9,000 new cases?
It was pretty much guaranteed that there would be some people who had the virus at WDW. Why does it matter that there might be more? With the level of contagiousness of this virus, if the procedures aren't going to work, it would have led to a major increase in cases within a few days starting at the lower level.
This spike is clearly related to people not social distancing. They wouldn't have closed bars if they didn't have data showing bars to be an issue. They wouldn't be begging people not to have private gatherings if they didn't have data showing there is spread happening at gatherings.
At WDW there will be social distancing in place, there will be a requirement to wear a mask and there will be temperature screenings to screen for symptomatic people who are going to be the most contagious. With respect to the way WDW will operate, it doesn't matter if 100,000 people per day are getting infected at bars.
Where are you seeing this??Temp check and/or cool down tents are going up at WDW. Its full steam ahead. WDW will open.
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