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News Tron coaster coming to the Magic Kingdom
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lazyboy97o
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They should have built TRON Lightcycle Power Run in Disney’s Animal Kingdom because Marv is a dog.
Marc Davis Fan
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When I cover the Tron building in that photo with my thumb, Space Mountain looks HUGE. And then...
doctornick
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I think people are sometimes far too rigid on being "in theme" for these parks. It's funny because I'm one of those who will argue to the end of time that Zootopia has no place in DAK but I think Mystic Manor is a solid fit. Why?
Not every attraction has to slavishly relate to the main theme of the park. DAK is about animals and nature and man's interaction with them. And the park does a fantastic job relating to that. But it also is about discovery and man's sense of adventure and that is where Mystic Manor fits in. The ride really draws on man's desire to want to explore and experience - and sadly often plunder - the different places of this planet. Furthermore, while I think each land needs to have at its core the mission of the park as a whole, it is more important for individual attraction to be harmonious with each land's theme and story.
So, yes, I would argue that a Mystic Manor that is properly incorporated into Asia (or Africa, could work there too) would be a great addition and reasonable with the park and land's environments.
Plus there's a monkey.
(I know I'm continuing dragging this thread off topic, but it's so much more interesting and fun than talking about COVID-19 or how Kathleen Kennedy has killed Star Wars for the millionth time...)
Animaniac93-98
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How about Animal Kingdom gets its own unique dark ride, and Hong Kong retains its one truly great attraction as an exclusive?
Animaniac93-98
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TRON demonstrates man's relationship with nature by showing how many would rather live inside their computer than go outside.
TrainsOfDisney
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That would be ideal. In a perfect world, each Disney resort property could have its own Mystic Manor. Could be really cool.
SilentWindODoom
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Everyone dunked on this, and I first saw the message this morning. I've had it rattling in my head for a while and thinking of it now... I don't know.
I'd never thought of Space Mountain in terms of forced perspective. I suppose I took it at face value as a conical structure with the ribs coming together naturally making it appear as it does and the spires being at the size that wouldn't look goofy. It's big. I don't think it as fake big. I think of it as big. Perhaps it's a matter of it not trying to look like anything. It's its own thing.
But in terms of ruining the effect, the building looks like a giant box. I don't see any windows or doors and the HVAC has been hidden by a parapet. Instead, it looks like a big box. There's nothing much to establish scale. When I look at the Soarin' building, I don't find that the Hotel du Canada looks smaller. I find that the building looks friggin' huge.
But that doesn't really matter because the show building is set back so that from looking through the pictures and street view it appears that the only time it will be visible is on the turn the bus makes into the bus stop and the express monorail coming in. That's most guests, but it's still an off-stage moment.
On-stage and from around the rest of Seven Seas Lagoon, it appears the backward position of the building will cause it to be hidden by Space Mountain itself. What you will see instead is a large white canopy which is scaleless. There's not really a good comparison that will cause its size to be judged by anything but what you feel. It will be like a large white mountain range behind Space Mountain. The only scale marker I see is the Tron sign that was visible in early art. Will it be there, or will it be placed on the ground instead? That remains to be seen.
The biggest problem is the fairgrounds sightlines. I was shocked looking at street view pictures from inside the park how well Space Mountain is hidden. Tron, on the other hand. It's going to be hard to not notice that.
RSoxNo1
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I would love to see a family friendly DAK dark ride of non-Dinosaur extinct animals.
doctornick
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Or even one of Dinosaurs really. It would be cool if they had as part of the Dino Institute that they have a "zoo" of dinos that they are rehabilitating in the present that they brought back from the past. A more sedate ride where you could really see and enjoy the animals (AAs).
But sure also other extinct animals would be good too.
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Surferboy567
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Every time I see more on this attraction the more excited I get. I can’t wait to experience the Grid.
solidyne
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I've heard of glass-half-full, but this? Well done!
Sorry for the sarcasm. I understand your point about an abstract shape having no point of reference for scale, but it's the flat-out size, not the specific scale ratio (if that makes sense). Now if they could theme it to mountains...
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Disgruntled Walt
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I would love to see a land devoted to mythical creatures like dragons and unicorns. They could design an awesome trackless ride to fit this theme. Plus there's all those plans from 20-some years ago. Just sayin...
SilentWindODoom
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I've heard of glass-half-full, but this? Well done!
Sorry for the sarcasm. I understand your point about an abstract shape having no point of reference for scale, but it's the flat-out size, not the specific scale ratio (if that makes sense). Now if they could theme it to mountains...
Well, if it's not about scale, then it's not about forced perspective.
But, actually... I was shocked to see this. I decided to look at how the buildings would look from across Seven Seas Lagoon. Using this image as a reference for the size of the show building compared to Space mountain and using this image as a reference for the size of the show building compared to the canopy, it's actually extremely surprising how short the canopy really is. It just looks huge because there's not much around it and most of the surrounding area is so close that the show building is hidden behind it from most angles. And I was doubly shocked when I realized just how friggin' huge the trees around the park are. Perhaps Space Mountain isn't as bit as I imagined it. Looking at that, seeing the related heights, it appears that this is how it will appear:
Side Note: While looking at the two pieces of concept art we have to try to figure stuff out, I found something. The original art has a building between Tron and the Peoplemover Track.
Anyone know what this is or was going to be? It's not a part of Tron in Shanghai. There's a theatre there in its place. There's retail right nextdoor in the old arcade which is still visible in the art. The bathrooms are right around the corner. It doesn't appear there was any need for a backstage area that was removed by the new construction. And expecially interesting to me is that there's a new set of stairs shown on the right, which appears to be a replacement for the emergency exit stairs for the Peoplemover that currently exist where this new building is. So there was a lot of thought put into the addition of this building in this piece of art.
It's not in the new one, but the new one is really weird in a lot of ways and I'm sure at this point the plan for the area doesn't look like either of these pieces. I just wonder what the heck this portion of the original plan was.
It isn’t. That’s why it stood in isolation for 45 years. The new development will spoil the forced perspective and make the actual size more obvious.
The gravity building roof is only 145 ft above ground level.
lazyboy97o
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Not even, the box does not break 100' above grade.
Not according to the original elevation blueprints.
lazyboy97o
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28,600 mm