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EPCOT Figment, well, to be replaced by Figment
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Homemade Imagineering
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The post that Joshua is responding to here is Dan’s post, where he states how he thinks the announcement of imagination and Mexico are both imminent, due to the fact that they are officially part of the permanent model in the odyssey. I thought I’d just share this with all of you... what do you guys think of this?
AdventureMP4z
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Hollywood 1939
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Obviously the best case scenario is rebuilding the original attraction, but really how feasible is that? There are so many questions I'd have. How well-documented is the original ride? Not just big things like props but also little details like the mural and paint/mirrors in the lobby. Lighting. How the props behave (like the indicators on the Dreamfinder's flying machine).
How many of the props would have to be recreated and how many are archived? It seems like it would cost more than the initial build to gut and redo the ride in its original state. And unless a "money is no object" attitude is taken I can't see that happening.
How many of the props would have to be recreated and how many are archived? It seems like it would cost more than the initial build to gut and redo the ride in its original state. And unless a "money is no object" attitude is taken I can't see that happening.
Homemade Imagineering
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I agree, but what I can see happening is an original attraction similar to mystic manor starring both dreamfinder and figment, figment and inside out, or figment, dreamfinder, and inside out in one attraction. These are my predictions. Now I don’t necessarily want an IP like inside out in imagination, but considering the current management, that scenario is unfortunately quite possible...
If you look on Disney Dan’s twitter he still thinks figment will be replaced by Inside out, so he obviously has no inside information. Could he be making a lucky guess about it being imminent? We’ll see, hopefully it does happen October 1st. For me, I would be surprised if they announced something else at the moment with all the knee jerk budget cuts that have been happening.
There's another possibility: They were included as a possible or even definite update... that was later canceled or put on hold.
If this was a MK Experience showcase, we'd be seeing a new Main Street Theater on display...
Mike S
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Brain dead move of the year if they announce these now and not at D23 when they had the perfect opportunity to do it.
DoleWhipDrea
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That model is the same model that was at the D23 Expo. At first glance, one would assume every model on there indicates a change/update for the 40th anniversary, since most of the model showcases a spot where that would happen - however, this is not actually the case. The model also has a few things like Test Track featured which are not getting any sort of changes. Of course, the model isn’t the entirety of EPCOT, either, so it feels a bit misleading.
It would be odd to announce updates on October 1st when D23 was just a little over a month ago. That was Disney’s press junket. It would make more sense for the changes to be staggered so that Future World isn’t entirely construction walls...not to mention relocating all of the displaced CMs from things being closed and finding new spots for them when attendance isn’t what Disney was expecting in wake of SWGE. That being said, the mention of Figment at the D23 presentation was huge, and the overall reaction to the presentation was mixed. The Expo was the week before SWGE opened in Orlando and it didn’t exactly meet Disney’s expectations with crowds. When Disney doesn’t get an immediate big reaction on a big investment, the executives get nervous and often have knee-jerk reactions. Maybe Disney is learning what most guests come to the parks for and wants to speed that process along while getting back some good will from the fans.
I would advise no one get their hopes up, just keep an eye on things.
It would be odd to announce updates on October 1st when D23 was just a little over a month ago. That was Disney’s press junket. It would make more sense for the changes to be staggered so that Future World isn’t entirely construction walls...not to mention relocating all of the displaced CMs from things being closed and finding new spots for them when attendance isn’t what Disney was expecting in wake of SWGE. That being said, the mention of Figment at the D23 presentation was huge, and the overall reaction to the presentation was mixed. The Expo was the week before SWGE opened in Orlando and it didn’t exactly meet Disney’s expectations with crowds. When Disney doesn’t get an immediate big reaction on a big investment, the executives get nervous and often have knee-jerk reactions. Maybe Disney is learning what most guests come to the parks for and wants to speed that process along while getting back some good will from the fans.
I would advise no one get their hopes up, just keep an eye on things.
Surferboy567
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Didn’t they announce MMRR for DL on a random day when they could of done it at the expo?
WEDway Inc & Company LLC
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Yes, they announced it on April 19th, 2019.
Homemade Imagineering
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Yeah I agree, I felt that people got their hopes up a bit too much for a d23 announcement, ( including myself ) and we were ultimately disappointed that nothing was announced. Let’s avoid that disappointment this time around, and just like you said, “keep an eye on things.” Keep in mind, something will be announced eventually, just maybe not right now.
Homemade Imagineering
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Well, I guess we will see what happens tomorrow... my guess is absolutely nothing, but hey, you never know
♂. On a side note, happy birthday Epcot and Walt Disney World!!!
♂. On a side note, happy birthday Epcot and Walt Disney World!!!
DCLcruiser
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They released some awesome new EPCOT Forever merchandise today and it includes Figment.
Back to an older post, keep buying Figment merchandise! We were at Disney Springs and DHS in September and picked up this beauty:
I wonder if it's actually limited to 95. Better be for $150
Back to an older post, keep buying Figment merchandise! We were at Disney Springs and DHS in September and picked up this beauty:
I wonder if it's actually limited to 95. Better be for $150
Mike S
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A little different when comparing the big Epcot makeover to a single ride addition.
Homemade Imagineering
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True, especially when that same ride is just being duplicated at another park.
Surferboy567
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Forgive me but have we had a discussion about the rainbow thing in the model? What’s that all about...seems like an announcement should of happened if they showed it ON A MODEL.
Homemade Imagineering
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First off, on the model, the various pavilions have giant objects lying outside of them that show what can be found inside of the pavilion( take for example the giant guitar and maracas on the outside of the Mexico pavilion, or the buildings on the roof of the play pavilion). Now, I totally see where you are coming from here, but I’m not to sure if it’s anything significant. Disney didn’t mention a thing about the current state that imagination is in, so therefore one might say that they aren’t proud of its current state, so when tasked with finding something iconic to adorn the building, they chose the rainbow tunnel since fans love it, and it’s probably the most iconic structure to have ever come out of imagination. With that being said, just because they haven’t announced anything yet, presumably because they haven’t had the time to discuss imagination with all of the other EPCOT projects underway, that doesn’t mean that they don’t have an idea of what they want to do with the pavilion. Maybe the current plan is to bring it back, as we know it was definately one of the proposals floating around WDI at some point, so I wouldn’t be surprised if that is their plan. Thoughts on this anyone?
Haymarket2008
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I would venture to guess that Figment/Dreamfinder is at the top of the pile. For a number of reasons: it is easy fan service, the one project die hard Disney fans have been clamoring for, and a guaranteed success in regards to merchandising and promotion.
Also the notion that the Imagination pavilion is a part of World Celebration, a “land” dedicated to what makes Epcot great and human connection makes me think it is a natural fit. Inside Out does NOT fit Nature or Celebration. The two attractions within it are SSE and (an updated) Imagination. Two inherently Epcot attractions worthy of the land they inhabit.
Also the notion that the Imagination pavilion is a part of World Celebration, a “land” dedicated to what makes Epcot great and human connection makes me think it is a natural fit. Inside Out does NOT fit Nature or Celebration. The two attractions within it are SSE and (an updated) Imagination. Two inherently Epcot attractions worthy of the land they inhabit.
Homemade Imagineering
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Yeah I totally agree. Plus bringing back imagination would really make a huge difference in the way fans feel about the “IP invasion” happening at Epcot right now, since it would bring a bit of a balance to Epcot’s original attraction lineup compared to IP based attractions. I hope Disney sees this as a way to redeem themselves, as this is the absolute prime opportunity to do the right thing!!