mikejs78
Well-Known Member
It’s almost as if the entire point of TLJ is that idolizing the past and expecting it to repeat exactly (like Rey, Finn, Luke, and the fans all did) is as foolish as trying to completely erase the past and ignore it’s effect on the present (like Kylo). Why, what an appropriate thematic approach for a film trying to follow up one of the most beloved trilogies of all time. It resonates both on the level of the characters themselves and as a meta-commentary on the film itself.
But no, the angry internet commentators are probably right. It’s just trolling. Rey should have been Luke’s daughter, Del Toro should have had a heart of gold, Kylo should have been redeemed, and Snoke should have been Yoda’s naughty brother.
The story was set up for the reveal that the past DOESN’T repeat exactly. That’s the point. Luke even tells viewers in the trailer; “This is not going to go the way you think.”
To survive, the heroes - and the series - need to find their own way, while still respecting the spirit of what went before.
This is why I think, with the passage of time, TLJ will be looked at much more favorably. The themes present in it, and the way those themes are presented, tells a compelling story that sets the Star Wars franchise to go in new, interesting directions.
but that is how TLJ ends THE PAST DOES REPEAT. At the end all we are left with is a small rebellion who has to now defeat a evil empire. 'we have to stop the bad guys" TLJ is wheels spinning the movie. If they wanted to do something different have it end when kylo offers rey his hand. or have her join him and end it. no at the end the twist is kylo really didnt really change sides he just took control of the new order and wants to hunt down the rebels. the move starts and ends the same. it is not deep or creative. it is a hot mess and pretentious.
Well, most storytelling for any kind of action movie is we have to stop the bad guys. That's a little simplistic.
The rebels were not devistated in empire. They were down but not out. Here, the resistance is decimated - practically wiped out. Down to a handful in a galaxy that's become indifferent. But there's a spark of hope that remains and always will remain, even in the darkest hour.
These are different themes than empire. While there are a few common elements, the thematic presentation is quite different.