Star Wars: Rise of the Resistance

[SWGalaxysEdge]

Word for Word from my DL source regarding the RotR "floor ripup" - they asked around.

"Here’s the 411 for you, dlr never had the concrete ripped out, the issue they had was the rebar and filler materials interfered with the rfid tags, the installer couldn’t drill down deep enough to install them per specs, the unload area was also too bumpy for the vehicles and had to be redone "

 

[britain]

Word for Word from my DL source regarding the RotR "floor ripup" - they asked around.

"Here’s the 411 for you, dlr never had the concrete ripped out, the issue they had was the rebar and filler materials interfered with the rfid tags, the installer couldn’t drill down deep enough to install them per specs, the unload area was also too bumpy for the vehicles and had to be redone "

Thanks for the info - Sounds like a lot of stuff needed to be ripped out, even if it wasn't concrete. Strange, what would it be if not concrete? Rebar goes in concrete...

 

[Joesixtoe]

Except for the fact that he isn't a dead man walking per his own Twitter feed.

Sorry to tell all of you TLJ haters and trolls, but I fully expect for Johnson to be brought in for his trilogy. The film was a financial success and there is no bad blood between LFL and Johnson that I am aware of. From the leaks and rumors coming out of EP 9, the reshoots are happening as expected with any movie. Don't feed the trolls.

I liked Brick and Looper.. so I think he can come up with some good movies. Star wars... he just trolled the fans, I'm sorry, but that was massive trolling. Rey Skywalker? Nah nobody.. Snoke back story? Nah nobody... Luke using a light saber?? Nah.. he isn't really there.... he took all our theories and went with the least satisfying one's. Not cool

 

[ToTBellHop]

Word for Word from my DL source regarding the RotR "floor ripup" - they asked around.

"Here’s the 411 for you, dlr never had the concrete ripped out, the issue they had was the rebar and filler materials interfered with the rfid tags, the installer couldn’t drill down deep enough to install them per specs, the unload area was also too bumpy for the vehicles and had to be redone "

This is my understanding of the situation, as well.

 

[brerphys]

Exactly. Imagine Carsland without RSR? Critter Country without Splash mountain? Frontier Land without Thunder Mountain? That is GE without ROTR. I'd wager that GE with only its 2nd ride is better than any of those other lands if they didn't have their headliner.

I disagree.

I experienced Carsland without RSR because my 2 year old didn't meet the height requirements. It was pretty awesome!!

Carsland has whimsy. SWGE is beautiful, but lacks that "human" factor. I don't know what you call it - whimsy, charm, etc.

Carsland minus RSR is still a LOT of fun. 2 fun rides, near-constant character meet and greets, several food options for relatively good prices, immersion in a land that the guests know from the Cars movies, and "Life could be a dream" dancing in the street at sunset.

SWGE doesn't just need RoTR. It needs far more. It needs a soul. It needs a kid/family-friendly ride and a show. Here's what I would do:
1. Add a basic kids ride to the area between resistance forest and the market (e.g. Star Wars themed version of Dumbo, Emotional Whirlwind, Mater's Junkard, etc.)
2. Add an elevated track that takes you on a tour of Batuu and tells the story of the land (gives it the background that we badly need). Similar to people mover in MK.
3. Add a recurring show

If you add those 3 things, the land goes from mediocre to the most-sought-after land in the park.

 

[mikejs78]

This is my understanding of the situation, as well.

Did these problems exist on both coasts?

 

[ToTBellHop]

Did these problems exist on both coasts?

DHS has similar RFID problems, but I've been led to believe they aren't as dire as some suggest. I recall reporting that December was the goal at some point last year. If it's slipped, it's not by too much. It was very strange to me that they announced such a precise date earlier this year.

 

[mikejs78]

DHS has similar RFID problems, but I've been led to believe they aren't as dire as some suggest. I recall reporting that December was the goal at some point last year. If it's slipped, it's not by too much. It was very strange to me that they announced such a precise date earlier this year.

Have you heard anything about slippage past Dec 4?

 

[britain]

DHS has similar RFID problems, but I've been led to believe they aren't as dire as some suggest. I recall reporting that December was the goal at some point last year. If it's slipped, it's not by too much. It was very strange to me that they announced such a precise date earlier this year.

I suppose if the bulk of RFID problems were caught early for DHS, the rest of the delays could be attributed to the rumored flooded sets & damaged computer equipment.

 

[bpiper]

Thanks for the info - Sounds like a lot of stuff needed to be ripped out, even if it wasn't concrete. Strange, what would it be if not concrete? Rebar goes in concrete...

Son of a 40 year Concrete foreman here and I have poured my own share of it. (Re)inforcing (Bar) is the steal rods in-bedded in Concrete to give it additional tensile strength.

If they couldn't core drill the holes for the pucks without hitting the rebar then someone f'd up. Either the plans didn't leave a gap in the rebar pattern for the core drill (patterns can be very dense depending upon the floor load), the gap was installed in the wrong place by the construction crew, or Disney messed up in plotting the locations for the gaps. You CAN NOT drill through rebar when core drilling. Bad structural things can happen if the rebar is severed. I once needed a core drilled in a mechanical room in a high rise office building for additional network cabling, but they couldn't find a big enough spot in the room for the 6" core when they x-rayed the floor. The pattern was too dense. We had to switch to the other mechanical room for the riser cable installation.

I suspect this might be a case of semantics and to the degree of effort.

I could see them having to jack hammer around where they need the pucks to get at the rebar and then redesign the pattern at that spot and pour new concrete. Some might call this minor work while others might describe it as having the whole concrete floor ripped out.

As to the bumpy unload area, they could use a concrete grinder and level the floor in that area, replace the whole section or maybe skim coat it. Either way, very messy and time consuming. That sounds like the laborer running the concrete float was at fault.

So you can see why some people would call this "having the floor ripped out" while others in the trades, would not.

Also, factor in that the concrete will need time to cure to full strength depending upon the recipe so no running heavy ride vehicles for testing over it until its cured.

Now that I think about it, part of the reason why Florida's version didn't need the floor worked on could also be due to the differences in the building codes between CA and FL. CA has different requirements due earthquake resistance. I could see where CA building codes could require a denser rebar grid due to seismic movements that Florida doesn't.

 

[RSoxNo1]

I know of...the FO troopers, 3 Kylo Rens, Nien Numb, BB-8, a Mon Calimari

Each vehicle is also expected to have a droid in front.

 

[KevinPage]

Each vehicle is also expected to have a droid in front.

Would be cool if they made each different (or had like 3-4 ones) just to give it some visual variety

 

[Steph15251]

I disagree.

I experienced Carsland without RSR because my 2 year old didn't meet the height requirements. It was pretty awesome!!

Carsland has whimsy. SWGE is beautiful, but lacks that "human" factor. I don't know what you call it - whimsy, charm, etc.

Carsland minus RSR is still a LOT of fun. 2 fun rides, near-constant character meet and greets, several food options for relatively good prices, immersion in a land that the guests know from the Cars movies, and "Life could be a dream" dancing in the street at sunset.

SWGE doesn't just need RoTR. It needs far more. It needs a soul. It needs a kid/family-friendly ride and a show. Here's what I would do:
1. Add a basic kids ride to the area between resistance forest and the market (e.g. Star Wars themed version of Dumbo, Emotional Whirlwind, Mater's Junkard, etc.)
2. Add an elevated track that takes you on a tour of Batuu and tells the story of the land (gives it the background that we badly need). Similar to people mover in MK.
3. Add a recurring show

If you add those 3 things, the land goes from mediocre to the most-sought-after land in the park.

I think SWGE is fine ,it just needs more to do ,maybe at some point they would add more .

 

[Tha Realest]

Son of a 40 year Concrete foreman here and I have poured my own share of it. (Re)inforcing (Bar) is the steal rods in-bedded in Concrete to give it additional tensile strength.

If they couldn't core drill the holes for the pucks without hitting the rebar then someone f'd up. Either the plans didn't leave a gap in the rebar pattern for the core drill (patterns can be very dense depending upon the floor load), the gap was installed in the wrong place by the construction crew, or Disney messed up in plotting the locations for the gaps. You CAN NOT drill through rebar when core drilling. Bad structural things can happen if the rebar is severed. I once needed a core drilled in a mechanical room in a high rise office building for additional network cabling, but they couldn't find a big enough spot in the room for the 6" core when they x-rayed the floor. The pattern was too dense. We had to switch to the other mechanical room for the riser cable installation.

I suspect this might be a case of semantics and to the degree of effort.

I could see them having to jack hammer around where they need the pucks to get at the rebar and then redesign the pattern at that spot and pour new concrete. Some might call this minor work while others might describe it as having the whole concrete floor ripped out.

As to the bumpy unload area, they could use a concrete grinder and level the floor in that area, replace the whole section or maybe skim coat it. Either way, very messy and time consuming. That sounds like the laborer running the concrete float was at fault.

So you can see why some people would call this "having the floor ripped out" while others in the trades, would not.

Also, factor in that the concrete will need time to cure to full strength depending upon the recipe so no running heavy ride vehicles for testing over it until its cured.

Now that I think about it, part of the reason why Florida's version didn't need the floor worked on could also be due to the differences in the building codes between CA and FL. CA has different requirements due earthquake resistance. I could see where CA building codes could require a denser rebar grid due to seismic movements that Florida doesn't.

This is a fascinating posting. I really appreciate your perspective on this.

 

[sedati]

I liked Brick and Looper.. so I think he can come up with some good movies. Star wars... he just trolled the fans, I'm sorry, but that was massive trolling. Rey Skywalker? Nah nobody.. Snoke back story? Nah nobody... Luke using a light saber?? Nah.. he isn't really there.... he took all our theories and went with the least satisfying one's. Not cool

Anything other than lazy fan-service now qualifies as trolling?

 

[Joesixtoe]

Anything other than lazy fan-service now qualifies as trolling?

Not my point. Point was he took all the left over theories from TFA and basically went with everyone's least satisfying conclusion. I'm not saying let's do fan service, I'm saying the story was set up for it all, but then he went for the shock elements instead and I think he way over did it. Seriously by the end of the movie I was anticipating being let down again.

 

[Casper Gutman]

Not my point. Point was he took all the left over theories from TFA and basically went with everyone's least satisfying conclusion. I'm not saying let's do fan service, I'm saying the story was set up for it all, but then he went for the shock elements instead and I think he way over did it. Seriously by the end of the movie I was anticipating being let down again.

The story was set up for the reveal that the past DOESN’T repeat exactly. That’s the point. Luke even tells viewers in the trailer; “This is not going to go the way you think.”

To survive, the heroes - and the series - need to find their own way, while still respecting the spirit of what went before.

 

[THE 1HAPPY HAUNT]

The story was set up for the reveal that the past DOESN’T repeat exactly. That’s the point. Luke even tells viewers in the trailer; “This is not going to go the way you think.”

To survive, the heroes - and the series - need to find their own way, while still respecting the spirit of what went before.

but that is how TLJ ends THE PAST DOES REPEAT. At the end all we are left with is a small rebellion who has to now defeat a evil empire. 'we have to stop the bad guys" TLJ is wheels spinning the movie. If they wanted to do something different have it end when kylo offers rey his hand. or have her join him and end it. no at the end the twist is kylo really didnt really change sides he just took control of the new order and wants to hunt down the rebels. the move starts and ends the same. it is not deep or creative. it is a hot mess and pretentious.

 

[180º]

You guys, knock it off with the Last Jedi talk or it’s bound to go on for pages.

If techs really are cycling Disneyland’s ROTR regularly and starting to iron out the operation, I wonder how much work there is left for WDI or whoever has been pulled to Florida. Could Disneyland possibly pull ahead again?

 

[THE 1HAPPY HAUNT]

Wooooow. I opened up google and this article was on the home page. Qouting people from this thread without giving them credit. https://wegotthiscovered.com/movies...ys-edge-attraction-continues-face-issues/amp/