Done they were. Lied they did.

[Hotamber]

You are suggesting time travel for IX because it’s popular after the success of Endgame.

Throwing out the fact that IX already had a script and finished principal photography by the time Endgame was released, franchises don’t just throw in gimmicks because it was used in an unrelated series.

Bad filmmakers steal ideas to create stories for the sole purpose of money. Good filmmakers write stories that are consistent with the characters and universes already established.

I do not think Lucasfilm was in the dark about Endgame as ILM worked on it for years and has worked on every Star Wars movie and most MCU movies for a fact. They probably use some of the same effects and programs

I was saying the new future trilogy (what the thread was about) could do that since all they keep saying is we got the writers from GOT with a new trendy director that broke every rule Star Wars had.

Leia can fly like superman, force ghosts can hit people, and Ray can send water to feel up a lover with the force are all inconsistent with the Star Wars rules. Time travel would make more sense then those and hyperspace tracking to me. I think IX will just be an updated love letter to Return of the Jedi but this Jedi just felt it and never had to train like the kid with the broom in TLJ and if she gets in trouble Yoda's ghost can hit people or lame Luke can project himself. Ray is not even a witch as most of them need to learn spells. She is possessed from just touching a light saber.

One villain falls down trash shoots, one was killed sitting down, and the other whines in a paint ball mask, none have that evil presence like Darth Vader, Darth Maul or even Thanos. I think it says a lot about the current trilogy that they needed to bring back the emperor since international audiences probably had no clue who the villain even was in TLJ. The casino owner?

At this point I have given up on character development or plot and just hope for an epic end battle like Rouge One or Endgame.

 

[Tony Perkis]

I do not think Lucasfilm was in the dark about Endgame as ILM worked on it for years and has worked on every Star Wars movie and most MCU movies for a fact. They probably use some of the same effects and programs

I was saying the new future trilogy (what the thread was about) could do that since all they keep saying is we got the writers from GOT with a new trendy director that broke every rule Star Wars had.

Leia can fly like superman, force ghosts can hit people, and Ray can send water to feel up a lover with the force are all inconsistent with the Star Wars rules. Time travel would make more sense then those and hyperspace tracking to me. I think IX will just be an updated love letter to Return of the Jedi but this Jedi just felt it and never had to train like the kid with the broom in TLJ and if she gets in trouble Yoda's ghost can hit people or lame Luke can project himself. Ray is not even a witch as most of them need to learn spells. She is possessed from just touching a light saber.

One villain falls down trash shoots, one was killed sitting down, and the other whines in a paint ball mask, none have that evil presence like Darth Vader, Darth Maul or even Thanos. I think it says a lot about the current trilogy that they needed to bring back the emperor since international audiences probably had no clue who the villain even was in TLJ. The casino owner?

At this point I have given up on character development or plot and just hope for an epic end battle like Rouge One or Endgame.

Those complaints do not break any major rule in the franchise’s logic. None of those scenes cross with a line in the sand, so to speak.

Leia didn’t fly like Superman. She used whatever powers of the force she had to pull herself to the doors of her exploded carrier, which she can do in a zero gravity environment. I will 100% agree that it was a stupid scene, but one that is still follows the series’ rules.

Force ghosts can hit people is so minuscule that it doesn’t matter. It wasn’t established as a possibility in past films, but it has no important bearing on the plot that I just can’t see how someone gets all up in arms about it. It didn’t break any hard rule established prior.

I don’t remember the send water up scene.

Also, Darth Maul isn’t a good villain in TPM. He’s a Halloween costume.

 

[Tony Perkis]

It doesn’t matter how long Luke was training. What we do know is that even after that training he was still weak and couldn’t match Vader. Rey matched Kylo a few minutes after first discovering her abilities and then could lift a mass of boulders when Luke was never able to lift his X-Wing out of the swamp. At the point where Rey matched Kylo Luke could only sense an incoming laser blast and was able to use the Force to only enhance what he already knew about firing a shot at a 2 meter wide object. In the beginning of ESB he could barely pull his lightsaber.

And training did matter in the OT.

“Luke, you must go to the Dagobah system.”

You are right that time travel would be stupid to just introduce all of a sudden though. Even worse than the training debacle.

I guess I just don’t see the training aspect as that important on the sequel series, namely because we’ve seen an entire trilogy that revolves around training Anakin that helps lead to his turn to the Dark Side, and the small training with Luke to show his resistance to it. I don’t need to see another series that follows that same formula.

The Prequels had a great overall story imo. The execution is where George faltered and needed a second opinion.

Lucas always tries to defend the prequels by saying they’re meant for kids, but then opens the events for the whole series with a trade dispute. I don’t think even he knew what the hell he was doing with hem.

 

[Mike S]

Those complaints do not break any major rule in the franchise’s logic. None of those scenes cross with a line in the sand, so to speak.

Leia didn’t fly like Superman. She used whatever powers of the force she had to pull herself to the doors of her exploded carrier, which she can do in a zero gravity environment. I will 100% agree that it was a stupid scene, but one that is still follows the series’ rules.

Force ghosts can hit people is so minuscule that it doesn’t matter. It wasn’t established as a possibility in past films, but it has no important bearing on the plot that I just can’t see how someone gets all up in arms about it. It didn’t break any hard rule established prior.

I don’t remember the send water up scene.

Also, Darth Maul isn’t a good villain in TPM. He’s a Halloween costume.

The flying Leia scene gets worse when you realize to bring her back in they don’t even think for a second and just open a door directly to space.

I guess I just don’t see the training aspect as that important on the sequel series, namely because we’ve seen an entire trilogy that revolves around training Anakin that helps lead to his turn to the Dark Side, and the small training with Luke to show his resistance to it. I don’t need to see another series that follows that same formula.

To me and others it’s just the logic that seemed setup of how one becomes a Jedi was just tossed aside to do something new and different and so far we have no clear explanation for it.

Imagine a new Harry Potter book came out about a kid who needed no schooling and just knew how to do a lot of spells. Same thing.

Lucas always tries to defend the prequels by saying they’re meant for kids, but then opens the events for the whole series with a trade dispute. I don’t think even he knew what the hell he was doing with hem.

If you go back to the OT I think it’s out there that he was mostly the general idea guy and worked closely with others to make sense of it.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

If you go back to the OT I think it’s out there that he was mostly the general idea guy and worked closely with others to make sense of it.

The original cut of Star Wars was 100% stupid. This isn’t something that isn’t known. It was his ex wife and Gary Kurtz who made it work through edits and reshoots

Kasdan did the writing and Irv Kirshner insisted on shooting the right movie on empire and Lucas complained about the budget.

Lucas is a figurehead...a point man. He didn’t do nearly the heavy lifting he is credited for...

On the prequels. There was no filter. That idiot yes man mccallum who didn’t put his foot down.

It showed. Lucas never forgave fans for calling crap CRAP.

Then Disney bought it...and some yutz assumed that people were ok with crap. Now we see that is not the case. The diehards have turned their backs in large numbers and it’s become just a same ole franchise.

They had one mulligan and it resulted in box office for 7...it’s all easily explainable.

They might as well get Michael bay now.

There is the history...such as it is.

 

[Hotamber]

Hopefully Chewbacca can get a Bumblebee level prequel where he is not a monster that eats people in a pit.

I thought his Chewbacca family was bad in the Star Wars Christmas special but at least he was still a wookie. Disney + should bring it back with Deadpool as host. Happy life day

 

[Darkprime]

They didn't lie. 3 years is still a hiatus. Most people were reading way too much into Igers comments and expecting some sort of 5 year gap.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

They didn't lie. 3 years is still a hiatus. Most people were reading way too much into Igers comments and expecting some sort of 5 year gap.

3 years is forever in public stock Hollywood terms.

No sense downplaying the developing failure this is

 

[Tony Perkis]

Hopefully Chewbacca can get a Bumblebee level prequel where he is not a monster that eats people in a pit.

I thought his Chewbacca family was bad in the Star Wars Christmas special but at least he was still a wookie. Disney + should bring it back with Deadpool as host. Happy life day

You want to retcon the best part of the film?

 

[jt04]

3 years is forever in public stock Hollywood terms.

No sense downplaying the developing failure this is

1983 to 1999 is 16 years.

2005 to 2015 is over 10 years.

The Star Wars franchise is timeless because it is a multi-generational favorite. And there is too much money at stake for it to be allowed to fail. So it won't.

 

[jt04]

They didn't lie. 3 years is still a hiatus. Most people were reading way too much into Igers comments and expecting some sort of 5 year gap.

Lucasfilm is creating Star Wars content for Disney+. Everyday.

No hiatus except for theatrical releases. Temporarily.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

1983 to 1999 is 16 years.

2005 to 2015 is over 10 years.

The Star Wars franchise is timeless because it is a multi-generational favorite. And there is too much money at stake for it to be allowed to fail. So it won't.

Star Wars took a break because of the technical costs...and frankly lucas’s Wife divorced him and he had a midlife breakdown.

And the 2005-2015 gap - which would have been permanent according to George - doesn’t happen if they didn’t make awful, lambasted movies.

Disney is playing the same game today.

Keep swinging

 

[Wendy Pleakley]

It's Official: The First Star Wars Film After Rise of Skywalker Will Be From Game of Thrones' Showrunners

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

It's Official: The First Star Wars Film After Rise of Skywalker Will Be From Game of Thrones' Showrunners

I was just thinking about these two yesterday.

They have no credits to their name prior to game of thrones and the shows story has “suffered”...since departure from the source material.

Hope there are good screenwriters.

On the bright side - this pretty much confirms somebody has been fired. Just not publicly

 

[Mike S]

It's Official: The First Star Wars Film After Rise of Skywalker Will Be From Game of Thrones' Showrunners

 

[Wendy Pleakley]

I feel like they're hiring people based on their success rate, but not necessarily on whether or not they are the best choice to make a Star Wars movie.

They hired Colin Treverrow, presumably because Jurassic World made a tonne of money. It was, however, an awful movie. It was a relief when they fired him, but also raised the question of what they were thinking when they hired him to begin with.

Now, Game of Thrones is hugely popular, but the later seasons of the show are not as good in the absence of strong source material. I'm not saying it's as bad as Jurassic World, not even close. I have nothing good to say about those dumpster fires.

If the Game of Thrones people are paired with a great story and/or writer, I'm sure they can do great things. Left to their own devices, I'm less optimistic.

 

[Mike S]

I feel like they're hiring people based on their success rate, but not necessarily on whether or not they are the best choice to make a Star Wars movie.

They hired Colin Treverrow, presumably because Jurassic World made a tonne of money. It was, however, an awful movie. It was a relief when they fired him, but also raised the question of what they were thinking when they hired him to begin with.

Now, Game of Thrones is hugely popular, but the later seasons of the show are not as good in the absence of strong source material. I'm not saying it's as bad as Jurassic World, not even close. I have nothing good to say about those dumpster fires.

If the Game of Thrones people are paired with a great story and/or writer, I'm sure they can do great things. Left to their own devices, I'm less optimistic.

I’ve heard that complaint before that they seem to just be hiring on past success. Meanwhile at Marvel, two guys who previously worked on TV shows and movies like You, Me, and Dupree were given a shot and became their golden boys for success.

 

[Wendy Pleakley]

I’ve heard that complaint before that they seem to just be hiring on past success. Meanwhile at Marvel, two guys who previously worked on TV shows and movies like You, Me, and Dupree were given a shot and became their golden boys for success.

Which goes to show the different approaches between Marvel and Star Wars.

Marvel is more likely to give a chance to people based on the quality of their work.

Star Wars is more likely to hire people who can make a product that has wide appeal, but is safe. As much as I liked The Force Awakens, it represented an easy way to make money and please the masses. I think it's fine to go that route the one time, beyond that I want more.

 

[Mike S]

Which goes to show the different approaches between Marvel and Star Wars.

Marvel is more likely to give a chance to people based on the quality of their work.

Star Wars is more likely to hire people who can make a product that has wide appeal, but is safe. As much as I liked The Force Awakens, it represented an easy way to make money and please the masses. I think it's fine to go that route the one time, beyond that I want more.

I wanted more too. If TLJ was a straight rip of ESB I would’ve been just as displeased. Even now it kind of is with the parent twist, just a different take. The throne room scene is also basically a rip of RotJ.

I don’t think people really talk about this though because the whole movie isn’t as blatant as TFA was.

 

[Tony Perkis]

I’ve heard that complaint before that they seem to just be hiring on past success. Meanwhile at Marvel, two guys who previously worked on TV shows and movies like You, Me, and Dupree were given a shot and became their golden boys for success.

I think you’re underestimating their past success in TV. They directed several highly lauded episodes of Community, Arrested Development, and Happy Endings.