NiarrNDisney
Well-Known Member
Honestly the train display has seen better days and really could use a refurbishment, maybe moving it will give it the TLC it needs.
Maybe it could finally get a roof to better protect it as well.
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Rumor Brazil (and maybe others) Pavilion Coming to Epcot [not about Brazilian people nor a country wish list]
- Thread starter MisterPenguin
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Maybe it could finally get a roof to better protect it as well.
WowFactor
Well-Known Member
Are we on the same page?
- No money from Brazilian gov.
- Private company spliting the bill with WDC
- Between Italy and Germany (trains plot)
- Trains to be moved to somewhere else
- New concept art on the move
- No Christ Redeemer
- No rides, maybe a show
- Probably a Meet and Greet
- Not defined IP - we talked about Jose Carioca, Aracuan, Ducktales and Rio (FOX)
- Two table service restaurants (one being a "churrascaria rodizio" style)
- Construction beginning latter this year
- @Sirwalterraleigh wisely isn't holding his breath until it goes vertical
- No money from Brazilian gov.
- Private company spliting the bill with WDC
- Between Italy and Germany (trains plot)
- Trains to be moved to somewhere else
- New concept art on the move
- No Christ Redeemer
- No rides, maybe a show
- Probably a Meet and Greet
- Not defined IP - we talked about Jose Carioca, Aracuan, Ducktales and Rio (FOX)
- Two table service restaurants (one being a "churrascaria rodizio" style)
- Construction beginning latter this year
- @Sirwalterraleigh wisely isn't holding his breath until it goes vertical
Mostly.Are we on the same page?
- No money from Brazilian gov.
- Private company spliting the bill with WDC
- Between Italy and Germany (trains plot)
- Trains to be moved to somewhere else
- New concept art on the move
- No Christ Redeemer
- No rides, maybe a show
- Probably a Meet and Greet
- Not defined IP - we talked about Jose Carioca, Aracuan, Ducktales and Rio (FOX)
- Two table service restaurants (one being a "churrascaria rodizio" style)
- Construction beginning latter this year
- @Sirwalterraleigh wisely isn't holding his breath until it goes vertical
Naplesgolfer
Well-Known Member
Why would they not put in a ride? They need more rides in Epcot.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
Are we on the same page?
- No money from Brazilian gov.
- Private company spliting the bill with WDC
- Between Italy and Germany (trains plot)
- Trains to be moved to somewhere else
- New concept art on the move
- No Christ Redeemer
- No rides, maybe a show
- Probably a Meet and Greet
- Not defined IP - we talked about Jose Carioca, Aracuan, Ducktales and Rio (FOX)
- Two table service restaurants (one being a "churrascaria rodizio" style)
- Construction beginning latter this year
- @Sirwalterraleigh wisely isn't holding his breath until it goes vertical
EricsBiscuit
Well-Known Member
Why bother if there’s no ride
Atomicmickey
Well-Known Member
To sell more booze and food? (note that I share your sentiment 100%, I just think that's the plan.)
EricsBiscuit
Well-Known Member
I don’t go to WDW to buy food and booze. If that’s long term expansion planning then there’s going to be an issue attracting new guests.
Atomicmickey
Well-Known Member
Whoops I missed you on the edit. Neither do I! I am not a fan of this plan, either. I just think that's the way they think of it. I'm with you!
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
I tell you why I’m STARTING to believe this...
Because it’s depressing. We all have wanted new countries for decades...no doubt.
But it’s such low hanging fruit not fit of WDI. No attractions...too much food and bev...and so dumbed down - “hey! We get a lot of Brazil tour groups! Let’s get Brazil! Get somebody down there and get a sucker company to commit! that will get everyone off our backs for 20 years and we can IP everything else!!”
It’s almost too perfect...and not Disney enough
Because it’s depressing. We all have wanted new countries for decades...no doubt.
But it’s such low hanging fruit not fit of WDI. No attractions...too much food and bev...and so dumbed down - “hey! We get a lot of Brazil tour groups! Let’s get Brazil! Get somebody down there and get a sucker company to commit! that will get everyone off our backs for 20 years and we can IP everything else!!”
It’s almost too perfect...and not Disney enough
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Go back to disbelieving.
Naplesgolfer
Well-Known Member
WDW is truly disadvantaged by the fact that 40-50% it's guest are one time customers The rest come from all over the world and come less frequently and stay longer than at other Disney Parks. DLR and Tokyo Disney have very large local repeat day trip client bases that just won't come without new Attractions and shows and better run parks. I think this is the top reason Disney runs WDW the way they do. I don't think the disincentive's for Disney to act differently in WDW will ever change.
WowFactor
Well-Known Member
I don't know... my feelings says that the first move was from the company. IMO this whole history it is a great marketing oportunity (long term) to the company, specially if they want to expand overseas.
Anyway thank you for sharing your POV.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
The main problem with new countries has always been the sponsorship deals...world has changed. Don’t need to have physical presences to promote product.
The economics of Brazil do fit...it’s a banana republic with a credit mess economy. Still is viewed as “respectable”
The perfect mark in many ways.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
It’s was always pragmatism...like the state of a certain movie franchise...
Win some, lose some, Kenny Rogers
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
People can’t say no to WDW...that’s why they can reduce investment and have a completely ineffective management on autopilot
mikejs78
Premium Member
And your source for this statistic is what, exactly?
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
That number is assumed...but it’s hard to tell with shifting demographics
I can tell you that was fairly accurate 20 years ago...but I don’t think so now
mikejs78
Premium Member
So you're telling me that 40-50% are one time visitors and the rest are international travelers? I find that highly suspect.
TJJohn12
Well-Known Member
Ride =/= Attraction
The rundown of the rumor list @marni1971 semi-confirmed said “maybe a show,” so there’s still the possibility of an attraction.