Avengers Campus - Reactions / Reviews

[GiveMeTheMusic]

That’s the thing, the aesthetics of the lands have always been just as important as the attractions themselves. You can look at the concept art from decades ago and see that Walt, the Imagineers, etc. took aesthetics into consideration. For the time, the original lands’ aesthetics were up to par. New Orleans Square is a prime example. I highly doubt Disney sat in meetings and said something of the likes of “as long as the rides are cool, we don’t need to make the lands look nice.”

Agree to disagree.

SWGE is going to feel a lot like NOS. That's a very good thing!

Marvel land tho - there's just nothing to work with. The films don't have environments that would lend themselves to what a Marvel land needs to include and apparently no one at WDI could come up with something better.

 

[Suspirian]

SWGE is going to feel a lot like NOS. That's a very good thing!

Marvel land tho - there's just nothing to work with. The films don't have environments that would lend themselves to what a Marvel land needs to include and apparently no one at WDI could come up with something better.

seems to be the case with most of DCA's projects which is a shame...considering it's their job.

 

[Disney Irish]

That’s the thing, the aesthetics of the lands have always been just as important as the attractions themselves. You can look at the concept art from decades ago and see that Walt, the Imagineers, etc. took aesthetics into consideration. For the time, the original lands’ aesthetics were up to par. New Orleans Square is a prime example. I highly doubt Disney sat in meetings and said something of the likes of “as long as the rides are cool, we don’t need to make the lands look nice.”

Agree to disagree.

I doubt they sat in a meeting and said that either. And I doubt they said that here with Marvel. Yes I've come to the determination that we aren't going to get some flashy land. And while I hold out a slim hope for a major revision of the design before construction starts, I know its not likely. So I have to hope the attractions do the heavy lifting of the land.

Either way I think we can both agree its not going to matter, the public at large is still going to flock to it and probably accept and enjoy it.

 

[Sharon&Susan]

Stories in video games usually miss something needed for a full scale movie, for example a well defined main character or even a good story in some cases. Not always, obviously, but the majority of the video games that are adapted to become films need something new to fill in the gaps.
MCU is a character driven set of films, not setting driven. The majority of the settings in the MCU are uninteresting and mirror reality. That is not a knock on the MCU, not every film needs to take place in wonderland or in the future. Theme parks are setting based. The designers in these projects have to fill in the gaps and create their own location. I am not saying either of these things are inherently bad. There's probably one good video game movie, that I haven't seen. And I'm sure that it's possible to make a good area in a theme park based off the MCU.

 

[DanielBB8]

Theme parks are largely influenced by films whether live action or animation. Seldom are theme parks based on video games. Even less are they based on comic books. Marvel has the best of all worlds (film, comic books, video games) although nothing about them gives them a good environment. They are either too busy saving them or destroying them. What will make the Marvel attractions successful is how the characters take the guests on a journey. It will be the opposite of the environment being the main point. This prejudging of the final result with the misunderstanding of Marvel will sadly ruin it for the few Disney purists here. Marvel is just on a different track than any other IP.
And to knock the purists, the environments in Disneyland are normal, yet seemingly exotic. There’s really nothing spectacular about Disney’s environments expect for Pandora that gotten a lot of grief.

 

[shortstop]

What will make the Marvel attractions successful is how the characters take the guests on a journey.

Character-driven attractions don’t really work.

And to knock the purists, the environments in Disneyland are normal, yet seemingly exotic. There’s really nothing spectacular about Disney’s environments

Disneyland’s environments have depth to them, and they aren’t places you can find in an office park 10 minutes down the freeway.

 

[TROR]

Theme parks are largely influenced by films whether live action or animation. Seldom are theme parks based on video games. Even less are they based on comic books. Marvel has the best of all worlds (film, comic books, video games) although nothing about them gives them a good environment. They are either too busy saving them or destroying them. What will make the Marvel attractions successful is how the characters take the guests on a journey. It will be the opposite of the environment being the main point. This prejudging of the final result with the misunderstanding of Marvel will sadly ruin it for the few Disney purists here. Marvel is just on a different track than any other IP.
And to knock the purists, the environments in Disneyland are normal, yet seemingly exotic. There’s really nothing spectacular about Disney’s environments expect for Pandora that gotten a lot of grief.

This is why they're not right for theme parks, an entertainment medium where the environment is the main point.

 

[BrianLo]

Aesthetically a Joe Rohde driven (with ample money) Wakanda city scape would be pleasing. Since DCA’s theme has gone to hell in a hand basket and all.

But ya otherwise the Marvel aesthetics are what they are.

 

[BrianLo]

Also, love me some Hong Kong. But please keep in mind their Marvel phased roll out took 7 years.

Which means we too will get that cool E-ticket come 2024!

 

[Animaniac93-98]

Aesthetically a Joe Rohde driven (with ample money) Wakanda city scape would be pleasing. Since DCA’s theme has gone to hell in a hand basket and all.

What? Why doesn't Black Panther doesn't belong in Disney Character Adventures?

 

[PB Watermelon]

One of the dangers I teach young writers is to not overthink the room. What's the singular recurring location in most of the Marvel films? Stark Tower. Build that (only need the bottom floor), you pass through the lobby as a hub, and from there, go to some E-Ticket Avengers smash-up ride, some shops and food venue, and one or two other attractions. I doubt anyone is going to be harumphing about a unifying environment over a brand whose stories literally transcend time, distance, and space. Just build Stark Tower or some other Avengers building as the entrance or a hub, and from there, the imagineers can do anything they want once they've oriented the guests that they're now in the land of Marvel action.

Can they do that in California Adventure? Space seems awfully cramped, don't it...just tear down that entire Hollywood area since Guardians is there already, Monsters Inc. was long in the tooth before it even opened, and while charming, the animation building isn't a draw (no pun intended). I guess you keep that theater.

 

[Disney Irish]

One of the dangers I teach young writers is to not overthink the room. What's the singular recurring location in most of the Marvel films? Stark Tower. Build that (only need the bottom floor), you pass through the lobby as a hub, and from there, go to some E-Ticket Avengers smash-up ride, some shops and food venue, and one or two other attractions. I doubt anyone is going to be harumphing about a unifying environment over a brand whose stories literally transcend time, distance, and space. Just build Stark Tower or some other Avengers building as the entrance or a hub, and from there, the imagineers can do anything they want once they've oriented the guests that they're now in the land of Marvel action.

Can they do that in California Adventure? Space seems awfully cramped, don't it...just tear down that entire Hollywood area since Guardians is there already, Monsters Inc. was long in the tooth before it even opened, and while charming, the animation building isn't a draw (no pun intended). I guess you keep that theater.

I agree with the not overthinking the "room".

Just FYI Stark tower became Avengers Tower after the fall of Shield (Winter Solider). And after the Ultron incident (Age of Ultron) they moved from Avengers Tower to the Avengers campus (an old Stark facility in upstate NY), and Tony sold Avengers Tower after the breakup of the Avengers (Civil War, Happy shown moving his tech out in Spider-Man: Homecoming). This is suppose to be the west coast version of that campus (a nod to the West Coast Avengers comics which I assume will be a story line in the MCU after Avengers 4). So the Stark Tower/Avengers Tower doesn't exist anymore in the MCU.

 

[mickEblu]

I agree with the not overthinking the "room".

Just FYI Stark tower became Avengers Tower after the fall of Shield (Winter Solider). And after the Ultron incident (Age of Ultron) they moved from Avengers Tower to the Avengers campus (an old Stark facility in upstate NY), and Tony sold Avengers Tower after the breakup of the Avengers (Civil War, Happy shown moving his tech out in Spider-Man: Homecoming). This is suppose to be the west coast version of that campus (a nod to the West Coast Avengers comics which I assume will be a story line in the MCU after Avengers 4). So the Stark Tower/Avengers Tower doesn't exist anymore in the MCU.

This is what I must sound like when I talk to people about Disneyland.

 

[Kram Sacul]

Universal's city streets with big cutouts of the characters is looking pretty good now.

 

[Disney Irish]

This is what I must sound like when I talk to people about Disneyland.

We can all talk nerdy at times lol....

 

[THE 1HAPPY HAUNT]

This ride doesn't get enough hate. It's arguably just as bad as Mission Breakout. Disney has no idea how to handle Marvel in the parks.

Can you explain to me why you feel that way. I am not trying to be sarcastic or anything. usually I find myself agreeing with your point of view so I am just curious. I think I have seen one ride through of it on You Tube years ago and it just looked like another STAR TOURS but with IRON MAN in it. the only thing that bugged me about it personally was that it takes place story wise at the Disney park the ride is at. it took me out of it to have it occur in our world.

 

[DanielBB8]

“I doubt anyone is going to be harumphing about a unifying environment over a brand whose stories literally transcend time, distance, and space.”

Not sure if this should be take seriously, but this post got a lot of likes. So people don’t mind not having a unifying environment yet are decrying what’s going on in California Adventure that is clearly not unifying and appears as office park and power plant. Maybe they should not be so quick to judge what they clearly don’t understand and the big picture is yet to be revealed.

 

[PB Watermelon]

I agree with the not overthinking the "room".

Just FYI Stark tower became Avengers Tower after the fall of Shield (Winter Solider). And after the Ultron incident (Age of Ultron) they moved from Avengers Tower to the Avengers campus (an old Stark facility in upstate NY), and Tony sold Avengers Tower after the breakup of the Avengers (Civil War, Happy shown moving his tech out in Spider-Man: Homecoming). This is suppose to be the west coast version of that campus (a nod to the West Coast Avengers comics which I assume will be a story line in the MCU after Avengers 4). So the Stark Tower/Avengers Tower doesn't exist anymore in the MCU.

"Just build Stark Tower or some other Avengers building as the entrance or a hub, and from there, the imagineers can do anything they want once they've oriented the guests that they're now in the land of Marvel action."

 

[Disney Irish]

"Just build Stark Tower or some other Avengers building as the entrance or a hub, and from there, the imagineers can do anything they want once they've oriented the guests that they're now in the land of Marvel action."

Yes I'm aware of what you said and even agreed with you, I was just pointing out a specific fact about Stark Tower.

 

[fctiger]

If you weren’t looking, this is phase 2.

Here’s phase 1. The Iron Man ride. Looks like a mall arcade. The big addition is yet to come.View attachment 327053

Yes, this is a great example. I was actually there this past summer and while it's decent its nothing amazing either. Both the interior and exterior is what you would expect from a decent C-D ticket ride. In other words decent, but nothing that will blow people away. They usually save that for the big E ticket stuff so I'm not surprised Spider-Man is just a more scaled down building because most at that level are.

Now that said, I'm not taking away people's criticisms of the actual concept art itself. If others think it looks too plain or bland, thats fine. They can certainly improve it, but its not going to be anything extravagant no matter what they do for this level.