zakattack99
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Will be interesting to see if this causes or has caused bad blood between the company and him. Wonder if we will see Bill Nye scrubbed from the other attractions he currently is part of.
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Will be interesting to see if this causes or has caused bad blood between the company and him. Wonder if we will see Bill Nye scrubbed from the other attractions he currently is part of.
the.dreamfinder
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She did sell her soul to Lucifer.... for reductions in CAFE standards.
ford91exploder
Resident Curmudgeon
That qualifies one for becoming a Disney executive once you've sold your soul well nothing is beyond the pale anylonger
TiggerDad
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Pintos, and you of course.
The Ford that explodes, right?
RSoxNo1
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My first thought after getting off Luigi's was that it was much worse than Aquatopia.
How is Aquatopia not a good use of the LPS system? You don't know which way the vehicles are going, there are "obstacles" in the path. The vehicles feel like they're moving around randomly, similar to the seeming randomness in the Hephalump scene of Hunny Hunt. Add in the fact that it's continuously loading as a bonus.
Luigi's takes what the system is capable of and choreographs it making an unpredictable system more predictable. To me, that defeats the purpose of using the system. So you may qualify it as a good tech demo, but I see it is totally defeating the purpose of not seeing the track. Similarly, while I haven't been on it, it seems like for different reasons, Ratatouille is also a weaker use of the system. You're moving from scene to scene in a more logical manner, defeating the purpose of the unpredictable ride system.
BrianLo
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Aquatopia could be fairly easily replicated with a track and some dye for the water. The LPS system isn't a tech demo of random, it is a tech demo of vehicle independence and interaction not feasible with any track. Whether that is seemingly random track independent movements or multiple vehicles choreographed.
Aquatopia is a glorified busbar with continuous load, the ability to spin and few different directional routes. There is minimal vehicle cross crossing and interaction as seen in Pooh, there is minimal jumping the queue and swapping places with vehicles ahead or behind you. Luigi's cannot be remotely replicated with a track.
Again - not a judgement of product quality, I'm just saying Luigi's really puts the system to strain. It's just dressed like a glorified tech demo in a parking lot. I think that's your issue with it.
truecoat
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They all go boom. Just search for your car and add the word fire to it.
Nubs70
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Thus having sold ones soul, you are not in legal possession of said soul, therefore one is said to be soulless.
Is this an intangible pre requisite for BoD membership?
RSoxNo1
Well-Known Member
It could be. At the end of the day. I will happily ride Aquatopia every day I'm at DisneySea and don't need to go on Luigi's ever again.
bcoachable
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I get ya on the whole predictable/unpredictable thing...
however, when we rode, every member of every car was clapping to the music and laughing along with all the other members of every car while being whipped around.
You visit a park, walk around with people who are like minded to a degree in that you all love being at Disney, but you never have a chance to play all together like this ride allows for.
Kind of a group dance with 30 of disney friends that you don't really know.
We had fun. We would only do it once a trip, but would ride again next visit. I think it serves it's purpose in the land well.
ford91exploder
Resident Curmudgeon
Well it does explain neatly the soulless nature of many of Disney's recent efforts and their creative bankruptcy including their recent patent on Orwell's Versificator...
Creativity after all comes from one's soul.
Figments Friend
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And that would be me....
Received a time sensitive online survey from Parks & Resorts within hours of departing from my week long stay at the Disneyland Resort yesterday.
I've taken dozens of these surveys both in the Parks and afterwards at home over the years, but what made this one stand out were two things :
Mickey wanting my opinion on certain lands, specifically Tomorrowland, Toontown, and Frontierland as well as the time sensitive nature of completing the survey.
Read into it what you wish....but I found it interesting.
Here is a screen shot i snapped while taking the survey, as originally posted in a related thread we have going on in the DLR section of this Forum -
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Sam Magic
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I'm talking about the in-park cabana's.
The middle-class isn't priced out, but the middle-class isn't the focus.
Disney has always had a multi-prong approach, just look at the classes of resorts: value, moderate, and deluxe. You can even pitch a tent.
There have been for a long long time the ability to fork over a thousand bucks for a VIP Tours which includes what is basically an unlimited FastPass, or, finding deep discounts off-season.
It doesn't have to be one or the other.
ParentsOf4
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Since 2001, Disney has been slowly pricing out 95% of the U.S. population:
That's funny, my family and I go and we're not in the top 5% income bracket.
ToTBellHop
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I'm not sure how a figure showing ticket prices increasing faster than income shows that. We are talking about $120/ day tickets, not $2000/ month rent.
Median household income in America is about $43000/year. 95% of people aren't unable to pay $120 to get into MK. Now if you want to analyze prescription drug prices, it's a different discussion.
lentesta
Premium Member
In 2008, 80% of US households spent less than $900 per year on vacations (excluding transportation). (Cite).
Combine that with the price increases since 2008 and stagnating incomes, and I think it's safe to say a WDW vacation is not in the budget for the vast majority of US households. Maybe not 95%, but that 80% number seems like a solid floor.
The median income for a household (not individuals) in the U.S. is $53,000. [link]
The mean for those in the 40-60 percentile is $53,400.
The mean for those in the 20-40 percentile is $31,400.
While the elite offerings and multiple visits in one year may only be able to be afforded by a minority at the top of the ladder, the idea that the majority can no longer afford a Disney vacation is odd to say the least. Do people think that the middle class, while not making gains, are currently all below the poverty line?
Just want to point out that mean of the bottom 20 percentile is only $12,000. I say that just because some lunatic once claimed that anyone... anyone... can afford a Disney vacation if they just save enough. As if making less than $10,000 a year enabled one to save for a Disney trip.
The mean for those in the 40-60 percentile is $53,400.
The mean for those in the 20-40 percentile is $31,400.
While the elite offerings and multiple visits in one year may only be able to be afforded by a minority at the top of the ladder, the idea that the majority can no longer afford a Disney vacation is odd to say the least. Do people think that the middle class, while not making gains, are currently all below the poverty line?
Just want to point out that mean of the bottom 20 percentile is only $12,000. I say that just because some lunatic once claimed that anyone... anyone... can afford a Disney vacation if they just save enough. As if making less than $10,000 a year enabled one to save for a Disney trip.