I'm almost 70 years old, and I know my education was lacking. We didn't have any education about each state, except for memorizing the capital. There was only 49 states then. I learned about Hawaii 50, from T.V. Yes, I'm ancient.
USA Today interviewing a lawyer: state’s law doesn’t require an owner of a land to anticipate the presence of harm from wild animals unless the owner either owns the wild animal or introduced it.
10 years, is not 44 years. That's how long our family has gone to Florida. Alligator's were an endangered species at that time. They weren't a problem for Disney or tourist's. The State put them on the endangered species list, and saw that their population grow, to the point it's now a problem. Please don't speak of something you read on YouTube, unless you are my age, and know the history, you are wrong.
My sister and brother in law saw an alligator napping between the buildings. They reported it to the front desk, and was said it's napping, not a problem.
I want to like this a million times.
My brother, dad, and myself were about 10 feet from a 4ish foot gator sunbathing at one of the Shades of Green's ponds when we were walking to get breakfast. We didn't tell the front desk, because there are signs there that say "DO NOT feed or get near the alligators as this is there natural habitat". If you haven't been at the Shades there are legitimate swamps there unlike the beaches along SSL & Bay Lake. Ever since we saw it a few years ago that is what made us decide not to walk along and in the water when we go to poly as that is walking distance from where we saw the gator. Ever since then I've always wondered why they haven't had signs at poly, gf, Contemporary etc. Problem is though, not everyone knows about gators being in SSL, like we did not prior to going to the shades of green, and even then, we generally didn't think about it being a problem at SSL until we actually put some thought into it which was the next time we went to the beach at poly a few days later.
It seems Disney had selective signs for guests. No swimming is not the same as no swimming, Alligator's in this man made lake. Speaking to the issue at hand. About Disney's obligation to warn their visitor's that there are danger's at their various property's. I can only speak about the National Park's warnings, and garbage cans that they have tried to make bear proof. It seems like common sense to warn about danger's on your property.
Completely agree. Not to mention if you go to someplace like Yellowstone National Park for instance, you are going to expect bears to be there, but they still have warnings. People expect gators to be in Florida and in the Everglades, but not necessarily in a lake, much less a man made lake, on an inviting beach at Disney.
If that's true (and no, I haven't reviewed the Florida statutes to see if it is), that seems perfectly reasonable.
Of course it's true. That's why 90 something percent of hotels don't warn you of what's around. Not because they're trying to make you feel "safe", but because odds are- you are safe. They aren't trying to mislead you.
Im all fairness, although it may have been, but it probably was not a water moccasin.
I still, after all of these pages, don't think you have a grasp on what alligators do and don't do. You still keep talking like they only live in swamp looking areas. They don't. It's just where you'll see the most of them.
I never once said that. All I was commenting on was the general public's interpretation of it. I have an aunt that lives in Parkland Florida (a suburb of Miami) been there nearly a dozen times. She has gators in a lake at her house, and neighborhood is on. We fish in it, stand next to it, but don't go in it because we know better not to. A tourist from someplace else may not know that.
Suburb of Ft Lauderdale
That's true about Fort Lauderdale lol. Everything in the Walt Disney World Property that has been developed were either swamps or swamp like forests, so it is of course a gator's natural habitat, but my point has always been that Disney should inform people that they're gators in there because it is not obvious lke a normal swamp.Suburb of Ft Lauderdale
Yeah, Parkland is edging the Everglades. All of those cities out west definitely have more alligators and do need to be more aware of their pets and small children..I agree with that.
That's not where Disney is located though.
I can't get back on this merry go round with you. You keep repeating the same thing so many times. Water is water. Man made is irrelevant. A beach is irrelevant. Please google some facts and it will stop this circle.
You clearly have been misinterpreting my comments this whole time. Man-made is of course irrelevant to gators being at that location. This entire time I have been talking about the public's interpretation. A beach looks to a person to be more inviting than a swamp plain and simple I think we can both agree to that. I just think because of that and because Disney knew there were a bunch of gators in there they should have had warnings. A standerd No Swimming sign probably seemed to be there due to the state of the water, and not alligators. If you look back on threads like from 2002 and stuff, you will see that people thought it was because of amoeba, boats etc.Suburb of Ft Lauderdale
Yeah, Parkland is edging the Everglades. All of those cities out west definitely have more alligators and do need to be more aware of their pets and small children..I agree with that.
That's not where Disney is located though.
I can't get back on this merry go round with you. You keep repeating the same thing so many times. Water is water. Man made is irrelevant. A beach is irrelevant. Please google some facts and it will stop this circle.
Here- I did a quick Google search for you- please look at the map. It shows where alligators live. If you tell me that every hotel, resort, theme park in all of these areas warns guests of wildlife, I'd hand over my upcoming vacation lol. They don't. I'm positive of that. Not in SoFla not in most of Orlando, not in most of SC, or TX, etc.
