G00fyDad
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It depends on the society. There was a time when the Swastika was a symbol used by the church, then it took one man to make it evil.
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How rude Inappropriate photo on photopass plus
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It depends on the society. There was a time when the Swastika was a symbol used by the church, then it took one man to make it evil.
No the CM even did what my daughter did herself. So she knew she never flipped off the camera. PLus she was riding next to me so she knew she was my daughter (we even stood there looking at the photo together) I'm angry cause she did say it was my daughter. She was the only one doing the Rock Star. So yeah I do have a right to be upset.
It's always someone who ruins it for everyone else.
luv
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It has a meaning in sign language, I am told. Even if it isn't real sign language, people do assign a meaning to it. The term is unallowable on most boards, but the word's meaning is akin to "horse hockey".
It also has another meaning most people are not familiar with...and I wish I weren't, lol. I had to ask once and now am doomed with the knowledge. Don't ask me to explain it because I wouldn't!!
Although I believe your daughter probably had no idea what her gesture meant, I can understand why Disney would decide not to print pictures with certain hand signals, like that one.
I'd just tell my daughter that it turns out that gesture is offensive to some people and that rock stars can't be trusted to use good judgement, like we do. No harm, no foul.
It also has another meaning most people are not familiar with...and I wish I weren't, lol. I had to ask once and now am doomed with the knowledge. Don't ask me to explain it because I wouldn't!!
Although I believe your daughter probably had no idea what her gesture meant, I can understand why Disney would decide not to print pictures with certain hand signals, like that one.
I'd just tell my daughter that it turns out that gesture is offensive to some people and that rock stars can't be trusted to use good judgement, like we do. No harm, no foul.
wilkeliza
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You are providing information you did not provide before. Now you claim the CM did the hand gesture as well and that she told your daughter specifically. In your OP you said she told you that your daughter had dones something that could be deemed inappropriate. Unfortunately, they can pull pictures and tell the guests that. You are allowed to write guest services but I'm not sure where I see what was terrible that the CM did. She informed you that the gesture that appeared on the screen was deemed inappropriate but still allowed it to be loaded onto your photopass*. Like I said before if it had been terribly bad and actually inappropriate they wouldn't have loaded onto your car and would have allowed you to reride the ride. As I said before the CM, computer system, whatever it is that scans the photos very quickly could have seen it wrong and deemed it inappropriate. Upon further review they must have seen it was nothing since they allowed you to load it onto your card.
Gt2BtheGoodLife
Active Member
Next time it happens, ask for a manager to come and review the picture themselves, I know nothing of the actual photo review program or anything but I know sometimes photos are blocked on accident. The best thing I can say also is swing by the view every once and a while to make sure everything looks right on your PP+, if not we are able to contact those needing contacting to figure out what's going on, especially if you 'purchased' the photo via adding it to your PP+ and then it has fallen off your account.
I_heart_Tigger
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I live in the "Birthplace of Hockey" and our Hockey museum shows old teams with a swastika as a logo displayed prominently on their jerseys.
rufio
Well-Known Member
Typical locals. LOL.
LOL! I wish I had that much time on my hands!
Spikerdink
Well-Known Member
Last year I thought Disney announced they were no longer going to 'monitor' the photos on Splash....I vaguely recall something along those lines. That stemmed from the phenomena of Splash being rnamed Flash Mountain with a corresponding website of women who would lift up (or down) their tops to expose themselves.... Once it became epidemic, Disney had to monitor the photos to squash this practice.... don't know how often it still happens or if the website still exists....
zurgandfriend
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I am part Native American, the swastika was a good luck charm for many nations or tribes. The boy scouts had a merit badge the "Order of the Golden Swastika" and until 1938 the swastika was the insignia of US 45th Infantry Division (Oklahoma Nation Guard). It did however face differnent than the Nazi insignia. There was also a town in Ontario called Swatika, they didn't want to change the name as there was a lot of First Nation hertitage involved, I'm not sure if they ever did change the name.
Weather_Lady
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Well It's been spelled out and that's that
It's too bad that a little girl felt shamed or embarrassed because she unwittingly made an inappropriate gesture -- or something that looked like it. (Done one way, the gesture is sexual. The other way, it's vaguely Satanic.) However, the gesture in question is inappropriate, regardless of whether its origins are widely known, and I don't think the CM did anything wrong by pointing that out. (I'm guilty of this kind of "innocence," too -- as a student teacher in college, I once permitted some middle schoolers to recite the word "" in a poem they were reading aloud, because I thought it was simply a nonsense word. Of course, as I was later informed BY AN ELEVEN-YEAR-OLD, it's not -- it's a contracted form of an expletive. My ignorance was no excuse, as I should have investigated the unfamiliar word ahead of time.)
Bottom line: if someone says that a gesture your child is making is inappropriate and you don't know what it means, then it's time to do some research so you can instruct your child accordingly. If a poster spelling out what the gesture meant is offensive to us, then imagine how offensive it must be for CMs to see children doing it, and being expected to sell the photographic evidence.
I_heart_Tigger
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I think part of the issue is the gesture was not found to be innappropriate by any other cast member on any other day done by the thousands of people a day every day of the year. I do and will continue to do my rock-n-roll sign on every Disney ride so I can get the pictures to add to my ever growing collection over the years.
I has never been innapropriate to Disney standards before and I don't know why it would now. It wasn't found to be innappropriate when my niece did it at ages 5, 8 and 11, which I believe is the OP's main point - if the gesture is offensive (which, honestly I think you need to be someone very sensitive to find it offensive) when did that happen? That day? Two hours ago? Because it certainly wasn't deemed to be offensive before. So the CM may need to be notified that this gesture is NOT offensive and that they cannot withhold photos because of that. Perhaps a closer look would have been required in this case if it was simply a mistake but the CM should be notified of that so the same thing doesn't happen again.
Also the sexual sign is done differently, it would be like saying giving the thumbs up is the same as giving someone the finger. The fingers held up are different and the hand is held differently. Unless there's a new fangled sexual sign I'm not familiar with.
I'm sorry I don't agree with you at all. How can rock and roll horns be inappropriate. She is a innocent 12 yr old girl who was just having fun and doing what she always does. It wasn't like she was flipping ,flashing, or anyother thing that might be sexual and the fact that this is even being brought up shows how sad our society has gotten. If I have to try to monitor every little thing my child does that to me is just her having fun and not being inappropriate in any way then we might as well stay at home cause there are always gonna be someone that thinks some one is being inapproppriate. If her gesture was offensive to you then That is your issue not a 12 year old little girl thinking it just means rock and roll.
Gator
Active Member
What? Man, everyone know what that symbol means. I'm a hardcore Christian who was raised to believe that rock was of the devil and the hand-horn sign was saluting him. I grew up and realized it means nothing but "Rock'n'Roll". I've been known to flash that a few times on RnRC and other rides, and I'm perfectly OK with it. No explanation is needed to this little girl, IMHO.
Weather_Lady
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Apparently other posters have another meaning for the gesture, if prior interpretations (extremely vulgar, now deleted, and the background for my prior post, which now looks understandably harsh out of context) are to be believed. Some postulated that, by a minor error in finger placement, her attempt at "sign of the horns" may have yielded an extremely similar gesture with an overtly sexual meaning, or at least, it might have looked that way to the CM. Of course, we don't know precisely what this young lady did, or how it looked on film. My point was that if the gesture was or could have been mistaken for something worse, the CM was within her rights to screen it. That's it.
Rock on.
G00fyDad
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That's because it is a family site. Not an XXX site. You don't need to go into graphic detail of adult situations here.
bubbles1812
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Mickey is:
I mean come on. She's 12. I've seen everyone and their brother do that pose. And have also seen a lot worse than that pose. Sounds like an overreaction by the CM even if she was in her rights to screen it. Again, 12 year old girl.
I mean come on. She's 12. I've seen everyone and their brother do that pose. And have also seen a lot worse than that pose. Sounds like an overreaction by the CM even if she was in her rights to screen it. Again, 12 year old girl.