How much does Disney Social Media/TDO check on WDWmagic?

[flynnibus]

One implication of your argument is that anyone who doesn't fully appreciate Twitter must not truly understand it and how it can be used -- or, put another way, someone who truly understands all that it offers will necessarily appreciate it.

Sorry, your premise is way off. First, your 'another way..' jump is a logic failure that is completely off mark. Second, my post saying people don't understand twitter is not because they don't appreciate it, but because they have directly demonstrated their lack of understanding of twitter.

You obviously have a great deal of passion toward Twitter, and it seems to provide a considerable degree of convenience and utility to you and people you know

Actually - no, I'm not passionate towards twitter. I only use it for limited things. I personally prefer FB fan pages for a lot of simple following. But what I am is -- is informed of it's uses and values and know why it's so entrenched as a news tool. I can appreciate and understand things I'm not personally vested in.

 

[cslafferty]

If you think that Disney isn't monitoring what's being discussed on this and other social media sights, then you must also believe that your employer (or prospective employer) can't possibly read or see your posts/pics about Spring Break, or that bachelor party in Vegas because you have your security settings set so only your friends can see. Sure . . .

And, while I was reading the thread about the BoG 2QS/TS credits the other day, I was thinking "I wonder if someone at TDO told someone to leak a rumor to a few sights about raising it to 2 credits and lets see what the reaction is. If its not too bad, then maybe we'll consider it!"

 

[Clever Name]

Those that say Disney is actively monitoring social media are many of the same people that are purveyors of social media. They’re driving traffic to media sites for promotion, profit and/or empire building. Suffice it to say that they have some sort of vested interest in the message, media, ads, traffic, products or sales.

You see a lot of people on these Disney sites that sell travel packages, touring information and other related activities. As the social media fad fades away, so too will most of its ardent supporters. A few will make a go of it.

 

[flynnibus]

that darn internet... such a fad.

 

[Clever Name]

that darn internet... such a fad.

The net is here to stay but certain parts of will go the way of bulletin board systems (BBS).

 

[flynnibus]

calling social a fad - Clever I know you say all this crap just to stir stuff up - but it gets really old. to the blocked list you go

 

[GenerationX]

I never knew there was such a clandestine element to this site ... moles, plants, executive briefings, highlighted posts, monitoring, etc. Heh, we probably all have dossiers at Disney Social Media!

 

[Kuhio]

Sorry, your premise is way off. First, your 'another way..' jump is a logic failure that is completely off mark. Second, my post saying people don't understand twitter is not because they don't appreciate it, but because they have directly demonstrated their lack of understanding of twitter.

In a nutshell, because it's Friday night and I don't feel like spending that much time on something that should be self-evident to any objective reader:

You say that people are "dismissive" of Twitter, fail to "find[] value" in it, and "flush the whole thing." In other words, people don't appreciate it.

You also describe a bunch of things that Twitter can do, and contend that people "miss all that," because they still have an erroneous notion that Twitter is only (or primarily) used for describing when someone "'takes a dump.'" (As an aside, if such an announcement doesn't constitute an example of "tidbit sharing" , I don't know what would...) In other words, people don't truly understand Twitter's full functionality.

These two concepts -- people not appreciating Twitter, and people not really understanding it -- are inextricably interwoven throughout your post. Connecting one to the other (and vice versa) probably isn't even implied so much as directly expressed; you explicitly state, for example, that when people "discover those uses" (i.e., when they better understand Twitter's full utility), the "tool starts to make more sense" (i.e., they begin to gain an appreciation for Twitter).

I'm not sure why you'd disavow one of the underlying points of your post, unless it's solely in an attempt to discredit my logic.

Actually - no, I'm not passionate towards twitter. I only use it for limited things. I personally prefer FB fan pages for a lot of simple following. But what I am is -- is informed of it's uses and values and know why it's so entrenched as a news tool. I can appreciate and understand things I'm not personally vested in.

For someone who's not passionate toward Twitter, you've produced the longest, most drawn-out defense of its uses and values I've ever read on a message board.

 

[flynnibus]

These two concepts -- people not appreciating Twitter, and people not really understanding it -- are inextricably interwoven throughout your post. Connecting one to the other (and vice versa) probably isn't even implied so much as directly expressed; you explicitly state, for example, that when people "discover those uses" (i.e., when they better understand Twitter's full utility), the "tool starts to make more sense" (i.e., they begin to gain an appreciation for Twitter).

I'm not sure why you'd disavow one of the underlying points of your post, unless it's solely in an attempt to discredit my logic.

I wasn't disavowing my post. The logic failure was in your leap after my post when you said " or, put another way, someone who truly understands all that it offers will necessarily appreciate it"

You can understand something without appreciating it. Understanding does not directly lead to appreciating. You can study and understand a historical event, even a barbaric one like a massacre, it doesn't mean you therefore appreciate it. Your fallacy was because I pointed out there were people who didn't understand twitter and hence COULDN'T appreciate it, that therefore if someone understands it they will appreciate it. There is no inverse there that because of lack of 'A', therefore 'B'. There is more than A and B

For someone who's not passionate toward Twitter, you've produced the longest, most drawn-out defense of its uses and values I've ever read on a message board.

Knowledge is universal - Passion is personal.

 

[asianway]

calling social a fad - Clever I know you say all this crap just to stir stuff up - but it gets really old. to the blocked list you go

It's so much nicer now that I dont have to see the non-value added ramblings.

 

[Kuhio]

You can understand something without appreciating it. Understanding does not directly lead to appreciating. You can study and understand a historical event, even a barbaric one like a massacre, it doesn't mean you therefore appreciate it. Your fallacy was because I pointed out there were people who didn't understand twitter and hence COULDN'T appreciate it, that therefore if someone understands it they will appreciate it. There is no inverse there that because of lack of 'A', therefore 'B'. There is more than A and B

Of course one can understand something without appreciating it; my point wasn't that understanding invariably leads to appreciation, either as a function of pure logic or of human behavior.

It was only that, in the context of this conversation, one implication of your specific argument is that Twitter is so wonderful that anyone who truly understands its uses would appreciate it.

In fact, as I noted in my previous post, this particular point is virtually spelled out by you in your example about "discover[ing] those uses"... "start[ing] to make more sense."

Of course, you could now respond by parsing your words very narrowly... by arguing, for instance, that "there are different meanings to 'understand' and 'appreciate,' and you're obviously interpreting those words in an overly specific way to support your argument... someone who 'discovers' something might not have a true 'understanding' of it... just because something 'makes more sense' to someone doesn't mean they 'appreciate' it," etc., etc., etc.

Honestly, we could go on like this for days; I'm sure you can come up with an infinite number of "nuh uh!" responses to anything I say. To spare the rest of the board further discussion on this increasingly more pedantic and off-topic issue, however, and because I generally enjoy doing other things during my weekend than arguing about semantics, why don't we just assume that you're the supreme authority on WDWMagic in regard to (1) Twitter, (2) logic, (3) knowledge, (4) passion, and (5) anything else I missed.

 

[puntagordabob]

And 74' told me one time John Lasseter really did print out one of the threads on here (no idea which), and use it for talking points in a meeting.

Maybe it was concerning the Enchanted Tiki Room.... either way I am happy they fixed!!

 

[puntagordabob]

A lot of employees probably come here to know what Disney is about to do..after all almost always we seem to know things long before the majority at Disney do... lol

 

[Pumbas Nakasak]

I know Disney senior management are big fans of mine.

 

[Bob]

Wow, as caustic and personal as this thread has become, I think that it needs to be moved over to the "News and Rumors" forum.

 

[wm49rs]

Wow, as caustic and personal as this thread has become, I think that it needs to be moved over to the "News and Rumors" forum.

Why? Because quite frankly, it's neither....

 

[Bob]

Why? Because quite frankly, it's neither....

Just because it seems that the majority of the threads in that forum turn into folks throwing jabs/insults at one another whenever they disagree about stuff. I see less of that in this one.

 

[wm49rs]

Just because it seems that the majority of the threads in that forum turn into folks throwing jabs/insults at one another whenever they disagree about stuff. I see less of that in this one.

It could happen in any thread. Best to keep them where they belong....

 

[koryadams]

That is a very good question...

 

[unkadug]

That is a very good question...

Which one?