Mouse Detective
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I read that it's going to be the world's first revolving IHOP.
http://savepleasureisland.blogspot.com/2011/04/breaking-news-mannequins-to-become-ihop.html
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I read that it's going to be the world's first revolving IHOP.
http://savepleasureisland.blogspot.com/2011/04/breaking-news-mannequins-to-become-ihop.html
MickeyPeace
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DTD now = Merchandise that you can buy in any of the Disney parks and restaurant franchises that tourists can visit in most major US cities.
And most businesses at DTD close about an hour after the parks. So if you stay to closing, by the time you get to DTD everything is closed or about to close. Why bother?
Even when staying at Congress Park in Saratoga Springs I don't usually bother making the walk over to DTD.
And most businesses at DTD close about an hour after the parks. So if you stay to closing, by the time you get to DTD everything is closed or about to close. Why bother?
Even when staying at Congress Park in Saratoga Springs I don't usually bother making the walk over to DTD.
John
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I also read the article, no where did it mention PI specifically. They did mention there were teens involved. If PI was gated these teens would not have been allowed to enter. I can get there is a faction here that is against the concept of PI, but we really should get the facts straight. ANY commercial venue has some amount of problems with crime. Disney isnt immune to such behavior. I am certian they are dealing with it now. Alissa did you ever visit PI ? Piticularly in its original concept?
alissafalco
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I did visit when I was a teenager 20 years ago. A lot has clearly changed sinced then....
GLaDOS
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If you were in PI 20 years ago you weren't a teenager. The area was 21+ then.
summer of 2004
Recipe for closing clubs:
Build West Side as a knee jerk reaction to Citywalk
West Side vendors complain not enough foot traffic
Un-gate island rather than build a viable alternate route AROUND the island
2004 - the last promotion of PI took place
2004-2005 Eisner, who wanted PI in the first place and protected it, is forced out of power
cut maintenance/refurb, tear down entertainment stage, stop nightly fireworks, close RRBC, see a potential tennant swoop it up for the prime real estate, justify the same idea for the whole island, pitch idea to Burbank, close clubs, cover up with PR story about surveys and "guest demand"
Since PI closed, there was an armed robbery at McDonald's, a guy with a loaded gun found in a bathroom, teens still hang out by AMC, broken windows in the parking lot, and this is all just what's publicly known. Believe me, there are still issues at DTD, just like anywhere. The clubs were not the cause of that and closing them was not the solution. HoB has service industry night every Sunday night PACKED wall to wall with people, no one seems to be complaining about them coming out drunk. Those are just phantom theories put into place by people who don't see the true big picture of the closing of PI. My argument is they made the wrong choice in doing so.
alissafalco
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Yes I was, I was 17 and had a fake ID. They werent even half as strict then as they are now with that kind of thing. I was there.
TarzanRocked99-
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That dear friends is about the most accurate description of what happened in abbreviated form that I have seen in awhile. Now you just need to add in that we are approaching 4 years later and the buildings remain empty.
no worries, many thanks. If you hear of even a category, we'd all love to hear it
Quoted again for truth.
midwest_mice
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Being a DVC member of Saratoga Springs, I rarely choose to stay there as the mere fact that DTD doesn't really offer much in way of after park closing entertainment. When Splitsville opens, I will check it out, but DTD does need something in lines of a few clubs or something, that way the conference/seminar crowds would stay on Disney property instead of heading th CityWalk.
midwest_mice
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Another attraction they should consider putting at DTD is a zipline. The zipline above Freemont St in Vegas is very popular and would give DTD guests something to watch while they stroll past the shops.
lazyboy97o
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And why would I be in denial? What do have to gain by not being impressed with Downtown Disney?
The upgrades to the forum system have made it even easier to find information. If these changes are so clear an ubiquitous then it should be no problem. Not everybody has time to look at everything.
Yes you dd say it. Then you said to check the newspaper archives, which I ad others did. When squat turned up you claimed that Disney had the articles supressed and removed. If you really want, it should be quite easy to find these posts for all to see. I'm on an iPhone at the moment so I am not able to do so at this time.
jt04
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Oh yes the underage problem. Forgot to mention that. Not only underage but then many were drinking of course. And then driving. I don't see how the entire PI concept got through the legal department in the first place.
J03Y
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i want an area of DTD called Traverse Town, and i want it to look like this:
http://kingdomhearts.wikia.com/wiki/Traverse_Town
if you know what video game this is from, then you're awesome!
http://kingdomhearts.wikia.com/wiki/Traverse_Town
if you know what video game this is from, then you're awesome!
jt04
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I forgot to mention that there were no issues in the area before PI opened. Back when it was the LBV Marketplace. It was only after PI opened that the problems began and have lingered to some degree.
Of course you did. The Marketplace was mainly an elder guests shopping mall with mall Opening times.
You're not getting your Hyperion Wharf you were convinced was still coming. And PI will never come back. But PI closing was part of an elaborate master plan that backfired.
71jason
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I remember the supposed "gang" crackdown. They harassed a bunch of (black) teens the first weekend. One was the son of a high ranking WDW manager; another was the son of the Vice President of FSU. The media was alerted. So-called crackdown went away soon after.
I never understood what the appeal of improv comedy, 80s retro music and the largest gay bar in Orlando would be to gangbangers. Of course, I totally understand teens looking for a place to "hang out." In the small town where I grew up it was the Dairy Queen, but I know the AMC fills that role in many other cities besides Lake Buena Vista.
jt04
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Not in my opinion and it appears from the parking lot usage I am not alone.
I'm like everyone else here and have a great deal of respect for you. But I think it is best if we agree to 'agree to disagree' on this matter. And while HW may not be happening, I'd bet something along those lines happens. As soon as the potential is realized by someone with the authority to do something about it.