Is that their plan?
I think I am in the minority but I LOVE FP.
I think I am in the minority but I LOVE FP.
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So, with the lineless queue is Disney trying to phase out FP?
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DisneyPrincess5
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I'm not really sure what their plan is, but I'm with you for loving FP. It has changed our plan of attack in the parks for the better.
I don't think it's to phase out FP for all rides, just ones where there's space to allow the people to mingle and await their ride times without blocking up the queue for those without FPs. I couldn't see this system being used for a Peter Pan for example, where the space in that area of FL is so tight.....
Zummi Gummi
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I also love FP, especially since you can be anywhere in the park (or not in the park, as the case might be). Based on what we have so far, this lineless queue confines you to a restricted area where you sort of just "hang out." I certainly prefer the freedom of FP to that.
I can't really see this working on a large scale, though maybe it will if they refine it. Right now it looks like a large group of people just sort of milling about. I can't imagine they want that.
I can't really see this working on a large scale, though maybe it will if they refine it. Right now it looks like a large group of people just sort of milling about. I can't imagine they want that.
EPCOT Explorer
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I honestly think they were just testing it out for Dumbo.:shrug:
I would hate to see FP go....
I would hate to see FP go....
Figment632
New Member
As would I, I remeber the days of a lot of the rides havin over 2 hour waits before FP, now I can skip them with FP, best thing they ever did imo.
I did a quick calculation and for our family it is (not counting food and souvenirs) a cost of $13/person/hour (flight, tickets, hotel)for a roughly 14 hour day at the parks. When one looks at it that way, waiting in line for an hour is very costly as I am now basically paying $13 to ride something. With FP and our planning around it, we get in 3-4 rides per hour. That is roughly $3.75/ride. Much more bang for your buck. If Disney told me when I got in the queue to hand over $13 to ride RnRC I don't think that would be happening. If Disney takes my ability to time manage out of the equation they are basically taking more of my money with less returns on my investment.
SirGoofy
Member
I mean you're gonna have to wait in line no matter what...:shrug:
But no, FP isn't going anywhere. There's some rides that shouldn't have it, but still, not going anywhere.
DisneyPrincess5
Well-Known Member
What would Disney's reason be to try and phase out FPs anyway?
Right, but we never have to wait more than 20 minutes. Traditionally, at Disney wait times used to be 1-2 hours. I can't think of any ride worth that sort of time investment. The DW and I get a FP then ride walk ons until either we can get another FP somewhere or our time to ride is near. By noon we always have 3 FP on hand forthe rest of the day and intermix those with walk ons. With this method we can ride everything in any given park with repeats by the time we leave for the day.
I always thought it was very unpopular and got lots of complaints.
SirGoofy
Member
There would be none, really. Besides, this system would not work for 99% of the rides that currently have FP.
No need to worry.
LowesChevy
Well-Known Member
I do not see it as a way to wipe out fast pass, but another alternative for not having to wait in a huge line.
_Scar
Active Member
I love FP to a point, but I think it needs to go. I'd rather them have regular lines with no form of fast pass or waiting for your number- or maybe a FP you can buy separately like Uni.
You can't even get on rides like Space, Soarin, or TSMM without massive wait times if you don't get to the parks bright and early.
You can't even get on rides like Space, Soarin, or TSMM without massive wait times if you don't get to the parks bright and early.
Your perception may be colored by these boards.
No, but it might be their way of phasing in a fee for FP.
Gig 'Em Mickey
Well-Known Member
The lineless queues look like they're just going to turn into a giant cluster #*&%
My wife said "Aren't people just going to jam up at the entrance so they are 1st in their group?" I have no desire to stand among a wandering mob. I would rather pay for FP than have none at all.
There are currently 16 vehicles, let's assume they each hold 2 riders. That's 32 per ride.
The ride itself lasts 2 minutes.
Couldn't they pre-allocate groups of 32 people each, so that when it is time to ride, that group is called and they just board the ride?
That's how I am viewing this.
The ride itself lasts 2 minutes.
Couldn't they pre-allocate groups of 32 people each, so that when it is time to ride, that group is called and they just board the ride?
That's how I am viewing this.
tirian
Well-Known Member
Some attractions need FP to avoid 2–3-hour-long waits at rides with complicated loading procedures, like Space Mt. and Splash. Those waits were brutal in the days before FP. However, omnimovers don't need FP; and many people think the system should be removed from Buzz, TSMM, Peter Pan, and Pooh, especially since those attractions operate smoothly without FP in other Disney parks.
IMO, Soarin' needs FP on most days, but would operate much better without it when Epcot has light crowds. If I'm not mistaken, Soarin's FP machines are always operating.