Unmagical TOT CMs

GizmoDuck

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Just returned from my trip this week and have to say most of the Tower of Terror CMs were great. We had a few first-timers in our party, and they were very impressed (not to mention freaked out :lookaroun) by the acting of these CMs. I have always enjoyed this as it really helps set the tone of the attraction.

However, there were a few who really really irritated me. Towards the end of the night, two or three female CMs who board you into the elevators were standing around in a circle just chit-chatting and laughing, barely acknowledging the guests besides to let them in the ride or to check the seatbelts...no creepy grin or stare...not even a change in tone of voice...needless to say this left us all feeling very annoyed :mad:

Has anyone else had any similar experiences?
 

EPCOTPluto

Well-Known Member
There are times when CMs would break their creepy act. Perhaps they were CPs...

I seldom see it whenever I ride TOT at night, though.
 

Chape19714

Well-Known Member
Seriously, cut the CMs some slack, it's late, and nobody is there...it happens, at all rides, not just ToT. And this past week has been pretty tough with lots of College program kids leaving...some they may never see again.

CMs are human too, and no attraction CM is an actor, I highly doubt anything was done to break the storyline, they just weren't focused on you like the others were, oh well. Every CM goes above and beyond every day, but sometimes to keep sanity, you have to step back every now and agian, and there's nothing wrong with that. :wave:
 

DisneyPrincess5

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To be honest, ToT is probably the only ride I can recall where the CMs did not seem happy to be there at times.
A few times I've seen them appear pretty uninterested in playing the part and they kind of scoot guests onto the elevator.

We did however have THE BEST CM on ToT! I believe his name was Joshua and he was so into his role! It was awesome!
 

GizmoDuck

Member
Original Poster
Seriously, cut the CMs some slack, it's late, and nobody is there...it happens, at all rides, not just ToT. And this past week has been pretty tough with lots of College program kids leaving...some they may never see again.

CMs are human too, and no attraction CM is an actor, I highly doubt anything was done to break the storyline, they just weren't focused on you like the others were, oh well. Every CM goes above and beyond every day, but sometimes to keep sanity, you have to step back every now and agian, and there's nothing wrong with that. :wave:

It was around 7 PM, that's not really that late. Don't get me wrong most CM's do go above and beyond, but there are a handful who don't act like they work at Disney World. Granted they're human, but this is what sets WDW aside from Six Flags and the like. It's the immersion in the attraction. It's not just the ride itself, its the theme and atmosphere and the guest's interaction with the CMs has really affects what one (especially a first-timer) gets from the ride.

Save the chit-chat for after work, this is your job kids. People spend thousands of dollars to get nothing but top knotch experiences and complete immersion.
 

draybook

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Seriously, cut the CMs some slack, it's late, and nobody is there...it happens, at all rides, not just ToT. And this past week has been pretty tough with lots of College program kids leaving...some they may never see again.

CMs are human too, and no attraction CM is an actor, I highly doubt anything was done to break the storyline, they just weren't focused on you like the others were, oh well. Every CM goes above and beyond every day, but sometimes to keep sanity, you have to step back every now and agian, and there's nothing wrong with that. :wave:



Yeah, I get that feeling sometimes at work too. I tell my employees, "hey guys, I know that these medical supplies that we're shipping out are important, but because it's late then we just shouldn't focus as hard as we do on the shipments that go out earlier in the day." You should see the looks on the faces of the hospital customer service reps when I tell them this, it's sheer joy!!











/sarcasm off

It's their job to attend to the guests, no matter what time it is. It's like we tell our employees at work, you're either doing it or you're not. If you're not then maybe you need to find something else.
 

fosse76

Well-Known Member
It's their job to attend to the guests, no matter what time it is. It's like we tell our employees at work, you're either doing it or you're not. If you're not then maybe you need to find something else.

But is it? Is there an absolute requirement that they have to act gloomy? I doubt it. Most CMs probably excel at it because dealing with the public is a rather taxing job and it is easier to shuffle them around like cattle. They are there for the safe operation of the attraction, not your personal entertainment.

GizmoDuck said:
It was around 7 PM, that's not really that late.

How do you know they hadn't been there since 8:00am? Working on your feet all day, and dealing with obnoxious rude people is very taxing.
 

GizmoDuck

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Original Poster
But is it? Is there an absolute requirement that they have to act gloomy? I doubt it. Most CMs probably excel at it because dealing with the public is a rather taxing job and it is easier to shuffle them around like cattle. They are there for the safe operation of the attraction, not your personal entertainment.



How do you know they hadn't been there since 8:00am? Working on your feet all day, and dealing with obnoxious rude people is very taxing.

Having never seen an employee contract, I cannot say whether these CMs are required to maintain character, but its simply common courtesy. Like I said earlier: people come from across the globe and pay top dollar for the best theme parks in the world. Don't ruin it for them.
 

Tom

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Having never seen an employee contract, I cannot say whether these CMs are required to maintain character, but its simply common courtesy. Like I said earlier: people come from across the globe and pay top dollar for the best theme parks in the world. Don't ruin it for them.

Exactly!

Human nature has a tendency to cause people to go lax in their duties when it's close to the end of their shifts or the close of business. The same person could be all business all day, but there's something about the near-end that makes people apathetic.

This applies to theme parks all over the place. Most noticeably, safety goes out the window. Ride attendants get giddy and chatty from being tired and get less professional in front of guests. I've been on coasters late at night at non-wdw parks where the attendants (barely in high school, it seemed) who probably would have normally been very thorough in their safety spiels and checking restraints - but were too "silly" and just let guests climb in and out of vehicles themselves, and just ran cycles over and over.

It's as if everyone in the world comes to this mutual understanding that we all know how the spiels and rides and safety systems work at dusk. It's a very strange phenomenon. And I still believe that this phenomenon had something to do with the monorail accident - it's almost obvious, in fact.

Sociology aside, I still agree that CMs should put on their best show until the last guest leaves. Look at the parades. There are giant painted lines beyond the parade gates that performers have to stay in character until they cross those lines (which is when the guests can't see them anymore). What if, God forbid, Mickey took his head off because he was hot just as his float past Splash Mountain? Every child at that end of the route would see him being lax in his duties right then and there.

The same applies. If you're working the ToT and you're being a giddy chatty school girl, you're not doing your job. You are a CAST MEMBER specifically because you are playing a role in a show. Contract or no contract, you were cast to be a creepy bellhop. If your hours are too long, change them or get another job that also pays minimum wage.

My park ticket entitles me to Disney Magic from opening until closing - not opening until all the CMs get sleepy. Can you imagine a JC skipper just driving the boat and randomly commenting in a monotone voice about the robotic snakes and gators? Or how about a HM butler opening the door with a big smile, or while telling an off-color joke to his coworker? That sure would completely ruin it for me.

Its just sad that Disney can't hire good people for every on-stage role anymore. There are LOTS of great CMs, and I notice them every time we go. They take me back to my childhood when every CM cared. Now you're lucky to get 10% of the caring ones who love their job and ignore the low pay. But too many are kids who while working at Disney is likened to me working at WalMart here in Indiana. Biggest employer around and always has jobs hiring kids for minimum wage. They go to work and get their check.

Ugh...enough ranting. I love Disney and I love the CMs who make it magical. I just wish Disney could afford to pay for what their time is worth so that we'd go back to the magical atmosphere CMs made for us in times past. :lol:
 

GizmoDuck

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Exactly!

Human nature has a tendency to cause people to go lax in their duties when it's close to the end of their shifts or the close of business. The same person could be all business all day, but there's something about the near-end that makes people apathetic.

This applies to theme parks all over the place. Most noticeably, safety goes out the window. Ride attendants get giddy and chatty from being tired and get less professional in front of guests. I've been on coasters late at night at non-wdw parks where the attendants (barely in high school, it seemed) who probably would have normally been very thorough in their safety spiels and checking restraints - but were too "silly" and just let guests climb in and out of vehicles themselves, and just ran cycles over and over.

It's as if everyone in the world comes to this mutual understanding that we all know how the spiels and rides and safety systems work at dusk. It's a very strange phenomenon. And I still believe that this phenomenon had something to do with the monorail accident - it's almost obvious, in fact.

Sociology aside, I still agree that CMs should put on their best show until the last guest leaves. Look at the parades. There are giant painted lines beyond the parade gates that performers have to stay in character until they cross those lines (which is when the guests can't see them anymore). What if, God forbid, Mickey took his head off because he was hot just as his float past Splash Mountain? Every child at that end of the route would see him being lax in his duties right then and there.

The same applies. If you're working the ToT and you're being a giddy chatty school girl, you're not doing your job. You are a CAST MEMBER specifically because you are playing a role in a show. Contract or no contract, you were cast to be a creepy bellhop. If your hours are too long, change them or get another job that also pays minimum wage.

My park ticket entitles me to Disney Magic from opening until closing - not opening until all the CMs get sleepy. Can you imagine a JC skipper just driving the boat and randomly commenting in a monotone voice about the robotic snakes and gators? Or how about a HM butler opening the door with a big smile, or while telling an off-color joke to his coworker? That sure would completely ruin it for me.

Its just sad that Disney can't hire good people for every on-stage role anymore. There are LOTS of great CMs, and I notice them every time we go. They take me back to my childhood when every CM cared. Now you're lucky to get 10% of the caring ones who love their job and ignore the low pay. But too many are kids who while working at Disney is likened to me working at WalMart here in Indiana. Biggest employer around and always has jobs hiring kids for minimum wage. They go to work and get their check.

Ugh...enough ranting. I love Disney and I love the CMs who make it magical. I just wish Disney could afford to pay for what their time is worth so that we'd go back to the magical atmosphere CMs made for us in times past. :lol:

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THANK YOU
 

harveyt0206

Well-Known Member
I personally have never had a negative experience with a CM. They really do add to my overall Disney experience so I probably would be a bit perplexed if I came across one who was maybe "having a bad day". I certainly wouldn't hold it against them, but it would take me a minute to process the change in attitude.
 

SirGoofy

Member
CMs were talking to each other!? How dare they!? :rolleyes:

Honestly, give the kids a break. They were probably on an open to close shift. Sometimes we break character. It happens.
 

GizmoDuck

Member
Original Poster
CMs were talking to each other!? How dare they!? :rolleyes:

Honestly, give the kids a break. They were probably on an open to close shift. Sometimes we break character. It happens.

It's not that they were simply "talking" to one another, it's that they were in a circle, leaning one the wall, getting loud and joking. I'm not saying "HEY YOU KIDS STOP HAVING FUN"...I'm just saying if you're going to chitchat do it discreetly or when you're on your break.

These girls were completely ignoring the guests and at the same time destroying the atmosphere and anticipation that they should be helping to build.
 

marsrunner

New Member
It's not that they were simply "talking" to one another, it's that they were in a circle, leaning one the wall, getting loud and joking. I'm not saying "HEY YOU KIDS STOP HAVING FUN"...I'm just saying if you're going to chitchat do it discreetly or when you're on your break.

These girls were completely ignoring the guests and at the same time destroying the atmosphere and anticipation that they should be helping to build.
Did they get everybody on the ride in an orderly fashion? Were you or anyone else forced to sit there and wait while an empty elevator was sitting waiting to be boarded? Did they insure that everyone was properly restrained inside the elevator? If they did all those things then they did their job.
Now, if they weren't entertaining you with creepy acting and funny dialog when they loaded you into the elevator then they weren't going above and beyond, but they were still doing their job.
I really think people expect too much sometimes. This is not a new thing, I've seen this since I started going to the parks in the 70s. Most of the time they go above and beyond, but sometimes they don't. Rarely are they actually rude or not doing their jobs, at least in my experience.

My favorite ToT memory involves my 5-year-old daughter. At WDW one night we rode the ToT (me, my wife and my daughter). My daughter came off the ride saying "I love that ride! Its my favorite! Let's do it again!" The nice CM at the unload station started talking to my daughter and then asked if she wanted to ride it again. My daughter very excitedly said "Yes! Yes!" She ushered us to the service elevator and right back on the ride. So cool!
 

C&D

Well-Known Member
I've been more impressed by (most) castmembers who are 'in character' even when they might not be in the active scene anymore. (just give the others the 'benefit of the doubt'; might have been 'one of those days'.
 

Tom Morrow

Well-Known Member
Pay close attention and you will see bad CMs and CMs chit chatting everywhere. The only reason you noticed this is because its ToT.
 

slacker

Member
My friend and I used to ride it a lot and the cast members are part of what makes it such a fantastic ride.
I found that even if some weren't really feeling it too much one day, it would be made up for with the great theming of someone else.
 

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